Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Vedith]

Not literally?

Then don't try to act like you are.

[Vedith]

In role madness where the rules pretty much explicitly say everyone has a role they can use in the light? That was a scum-claim.

If they flip scum, do you think I'm scum?

[Vedith]

Mafia within the Dark may still use their nightkill and discuss with teammates, but no other powers are available to them.

Also, what do you think about this comment?

[Rautherdir]

I don't know.
After reading the rules some more, the dayvig wouldn't trigger until dusk anyways. Not that it would trigger at all since, as I said, you are in the dark and everyone in the dark is essentially a Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon until they leave. Which also means I won't be pushing dramonic on that claim since I see where he is coming from.

[Vedith]

I don't know.
After reading the rules some more, the dayvig wouldn't trigger until dusk anyways. Not that it would trigger at all since, as I said, you are in the dark and everyone in the dark is essentially a Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon until they leave. Which also means I won't be pushing dramonic on that claim since I see where he is coming from.

I'm not VT and neither am I essentially a VT. How does that make you feel?

[Rautherdir]

Mafia within the Dark may still use their nightkill and discuss with teammates, but no other powers are available to them.

Also, what do you think about this comment?

I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that scum have day-talk. Not sure where though.

I don't know.
After reading the rules some more, the dayvig wouldn't trigger until dusk anyways. Not that it would trigger at all since, as I said, you are in the dark and everyone in the dark is essentially a Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon until they leave. Which also means I won't be pushing dramonic on that claim since I see where he is coming from.

I'm not VT and neither am I essentially a VT. How does that make you feel?

You are not a VT. I am almost certain no one in this game is. However, as long as you are in the dark you are essentially either a VT or Mafia Goon.

[Vedith]

I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that scum have day-talk. Not sure where though.

I'm talking about scum not knowing their roles in the dark.

You are not a VT. I am almost certain no one in this game is. However, as long as you are in the dark you are essentially either a VT or Mafia Goon.

I am not essentially a VT, and I'm not Mafia at all.

Now what?

[Vedith]

Also, my shot ends the day, so CE you owe me one.

[EddieFenix]

Your bluffing on this dayvig shot. Seen this gambit a few times on this site.

[Vedith]

Your bluffing on this dayvig shot. Seen this gambit a few times on this site.

I've seen an image of a donkey sitting at a coputer desk playing Counter Strike on this site.
We can try to see who's got the crazy scenes all we like, but you're flipping... And flipping scum!

[Rautherdir]

Also, my shot ends the day, so CE you owe me one.

Nope. Your shot occurs at the end of the day. You must have misread.

This game will feature four phases:
The Day Phase works just like any other game. Players talk and may vote on who to lynch.
The Night Phase works just like any other game. The game thread will be locked (however, private topics will remain open), and players may privately submit any night action they are capable of performing.
The Dawn Phase (end of night) and the Dusk/Twilight Phase (end of day) will be transitionary phases: all relevant actions from the night/day phase trigger, and it is at this point they are resolved. These two phases will last only as long as necessary for all pertinent actions taking place within this phase to be resolved. (Namely, player transfers.)

Also, as to scum not knowing what their roles were:

Each scum player, unlike the town players, knows what power they possess even if they start on the dark side. (They simply can't use them while there.)

As for the daytalk thing, I was thinking about a different game. Nowhere in this game's rules does it say that scum have daytalk.

[Gamma Emerald]

It means your yoga session started.
With a stretch like that.

savage

[Vedith]

Nope. Your shot occurs at the end of the day. You must have misread.

I just re read to check, it happens now and ends the day.

Ah okay, scum do know the roles.
I also never actually mentioned about scum day talk.

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus votes Rauth and says Rauth is bussing Aronis, but doesn't have a read on Aronis.

How is that not clearly contradictory.

Ginngie is prob scum with at least Aronis
also
VOTE: Aronis

[Rautherdir]

Yeah. And town don't.

VOTE: Vedith

So come clean or get lynched.

[Vedith]

Rauth, you don't have the power to vote right now!

[dramonic]

this game is fucking depressing

[Rautherdir]

I am essentially a VT right now. And as a VT I have:
- The power to talk in the dark and main thread during the day.
- The power to talk in the dark thread during the night.
- The ability to vote in the main thread for who to lynch during the day.

[Vedith]

this game is fucking depressing

Then replace out.
It's only fucking depressing because people would rather just sit and do fuck all in the game (That's not aimed at you).

[dramonic]

aaaaaaand I just drowned in irony.

[Vedith]

aaaaaaand I just drowned in irony.

What a shame

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like to request that Vedith and Ginngie not take up an entire page for themselves arguing the same point back and forth.

I'd also like to state that, in this instance, Ginngie is not correct.

Titus expressed suspicion of Rauth's vote (and at the time did not believe it was bussing, due to a lack of read on Aronis).

Titus later felt that Aronis was also scummy due to later events.

Titus explains how both could be true (when asked by bulbazak) by saying that Rauth's vote, which was suspicious, could also be an attempt at bussing.

The flow of logic here is not suspicious or self-contradictory.

What Ginngie is doing is this.

[Gamma Emerald]

By the new look of it:
Aronis!town
Rauth!votes
Rauth!scum
Rauth!scumclaim
A conversation with FKB and votes Aronis
Aronis!scum
says bus vote

Is that contradictory? No. Saying she never read Aronis as town would be a contradiction.

[Gamma Emerald]

I do not disagree, but 79 CE is still more suspicious / scummier / youradjectiveher

Wagon built way too fast, CE is town.
However, if at L1 I will probably lol hammer as I've had my fill with you guys for today.

Wagon speed is not alignment indicative. You stalling to avoid an opinion on things

FoS Gamma:

WTF are you FOSing me fooooooor

[Rautherdir]

Keep on reading and you'll find out...