Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

[TheBrie]

When I have trouble sorting the game, I try to follow my town reads when they make good sense.

So why did you follow Almost when he couldn't give a case on me?

Cause I was tired and he was so confident. I'd have wavered more if you were closer to getting lynched. Though I probably should have been more careful with a short day.

@Wisdom Okay, I won't be a newbie then. I'll try to be amazing.

[TheBrie]

How is Raya getting away with only two post five days ago? And Hellfire hasn't posted in four days. I know post count isn't AI, but why hasn't anyone tried to make them talk.
Hellfire basically quit after the Hydra PT was sorted out and people stopped scum reading him.

[TheBrie]

I'm thinking there's a couple scum in NotTheRealPaul, GenerationX and Hellfire. And I obviously think Wisdom is scum.
Dunker and Tails are nulls right now. Raya isn't possible to read.
Vedith sounds townie, so does Titus.
Almost is 90% certain town. Don't lynch him if you have other options.

[Titus]

It's the same strategy.

Town also lost the game where we were scum partners.

yeah youre wrong; my play leads to wins, not loses, and im not changing it because you dont like it

Either avoid me or stop going against me in every game

You give reasons and treat us as if we're capable of discussion and you might persuade me. You are unwilling to put your money where your mouth is.

You were also terrible in railgun which just ended. Day 1 you railroaded me. So pardon me if I don't trust a last second bully pulpit wagon.

[Wisdom]

I railroaded you because you were against me like youre doing now

And it will keep happening

Just avoid me

[Wisdom]

and the brie wagon is in no way "last second"

Such comments only make you look like youre her buddy and youre trying to discredit the wagon

[Titus]

We were both town in railgun, so what did you mean by against you? The game should be about lynching scum, not you trying to remove everyone you cannot manipulate with AtE.

You will find even if I cease to play with you that your attitude will drive players away and you'll be significantly worse than chance Wisdom.

The Brie happened with less than two days with most votes as reasonless or because deadline. That's pretty textbook last second.

You're just going to cry discredit over any sort of defense and repeat that.

[Titus]

Even though you are sucking this game Wisdom, I still wish you a happy birthday.

[Wisdom]

You will find even if I cease to play with you that your attitude will drive players away and you'll be significantly worse than chance Wisdom.

Titus im here since 2012 and there are very few people who ever avoided me

Let me worry about my attitude

[Wisdom]

And how can you say im sucking this game? You dont know if my reads are right or wrong
For all we know ive caught all 5 scum

So you either antagonise me on purpose or driven by scum motivation

[Wisdom]

And if it wasnt for railgun and machina and pretty much every game we've been both town in, id be shouting its scum motivation, but can i at this point? Youll just flip town again and remind me how you enjoy antagonizing me for no reason

[Titus]

And how can you say im sucking this game? You dont know if my reads are right or wrong
For all we know ive caught all 5 scum

So you either antagonise me on purpose or driven by scum motivation

Or by a genuine belief that you railroading town continues to lead to the same results. Repeating the same result leads to insanity. I do have a pattern of recent history that says your style is just incorrect. Yet you persist.

You've been here since 2012. So what? That's an appeal to authority. I have played the most games by far. That doesn't make either of us more right because we say so. Town achieves more by justifying ourselves, being able to reach a semi-informed consensus and getting the best out of each other. Insisting that you are above such things wrecks games.

Tldr: You're repeating a failed strategy expecting new results. By definition, that is insanity.

[Wisdom]

How is it failed if it works fine for me?

Again, show me games where it didnt work

[Wisdom]

And cool; keep your "genuine belief" for yourself and avoid me, its really simple

[Titus]

How is it failed if it works fine for me?

Again, show me games where it didnt work

And cool; keep your "genuine belief" for yourself and avoid me, its really simple

I did. You mislynched me in railgun and commknight used a similar strategy in Gif's upick.

You avoid lynching town and I won't have to try and stop you.

I hear your refusal to play with anyone who wants you to justify an opinion loud and clear.

[Wisdom]

If they center the game around it, then yeah

You will either accept my playstyle or not play with me

[Wisdom]

You mislynched me in railgun

Thats your fault, stop antagonizing me

Town still won and i played a major part in it, so

[Titus]

You mislynched me in railgun

Thats your fault, stop antagonizing me

Town still won and i played a major part in it, so

The setup won it. Your votes were crap without that guidance. Seriously, you refused to listen to me, and said my lynch was my fault for SRing you.

This is mafia, not ego wars.

Stop voting town.

[Wisdom]

im ending this now

Youre a smart person, i dont have to repeat myself all the time; either avoid me or stop whining

[Vedith]

Hellfire hasn't posted in four days.

I think he site flaked.

Cause I was tired and he was so confident.

Confidence doesn't mean town.

Wisdom won't even try to make a case on me, says he doesn't do cases, blatantly ignores newbies except for me, and my biggest town reads were voting him.
When I have trouble sorting the game, I try to follow my town reads when they make good sense. I'm going to try sorting things out more pretty soon.

(I'm not sure when I stop being a newbie. This is my fifth game. First open. Second game bigger than 9 players.)

Do you think that Wisdom has a scum motive to push a lynch on you without reason? Or do you think that normally comes from town?
I don't have a case on you, I've just voted you. I haven't even commented on the other slots which people are considering as "newbies". Surely I would warrent your vote over Wisdom by this logic?

[TheBrie]

I followed Almost because I TR him AND he was confident. I didn't TR him for confidence.
Wisdom was asked for a case, you weren't. It's true you haven't commented much, but you've done less in general. Maybe I'm leaning town on you too early, but not everyone can be scum.
Also, what's the point in starting another wagon? I can only vote one person at a time.

[Vedith]

[TheBrie]

I'm going to bed now. It's after 9pm and I had work today on top of my cold. Don't have internet after 10 any way. Hopefully I'll see you in a few days.

[Wisdom]

Youll be dead by then

[Eurotrash]

VOTE: TheBrie

That's a hammer.

I'm not very convinced this will flip scum but there's 1 hour left and I don't want to speedlynch anyone at this point.