Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

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Why not me, almost?

I don't have a read on you yet. I mean, you are scummy by nature, I grant you that, but what exactly have you done in this game to merit a confident SR??

Idk, what have the other two you said are scum done?

They jumped on the largest wagon (my wagon) when I tried to move the game forward and asked players to actually play the game.

The Day is only 7 days long, so it serves Scum more to keep the game stagnant and then get a deadline wagon going that will actually shock the Town because it seems many a player didn't even notice we had a shortened Day phase.

Up until (and including) yours, the votes on me were mere RVS votes. Their votes (both of them) they claim are serious votes, so those are the votes to actually analyze.

Looks like a townpost.

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92 is a scumclaim btw

VOTE: thebrie

No

93 doesn't make any sense with what was said in 92

Hmmmm ok maybe

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I can't see anything that indicates A50 was thinking more of one scum group than the other, so I'd like to hear about that.

Two 100% Scums here (opposite factions though). Not

MY

fault if Town fails to build on it after I get lynched.

I'll say it again: One of Tails/NotTheRealPaul is a WW, the other is Mafia. 100% (hint to Town Seer)

Without getting into the immediate problems here (questioning vs. exclaiming, scumhunting vs freakout), there is a slight lean towards finding werewolves. Town's really not going to care at this point, or really come to this sort of conclusion. Almost is trying to make it look like he's hunting for both factions, but with his request of the seer, it's pretty obvious he's mainly concerned about the one. Wolves are not going to think about doing this, and town is really not going to care one over the other at this point in the game, given as they want both dead and flips to work with.

I can say from my limited experience with A50 that he's a fairly calm player who doesn't panic when found out as scum. But that's one game, so it's likely not worth much.

And him panicking here didn't set off any alarms?

This is actually a fairly good post and lines up with my belief that A50 is not a WW.

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Tails v A50 is hilarious to read.

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I can't see anything that indicates A50 was thinking more of one scum group than the other, so I'd like to hear about that.

Two 100% Scums here (opposite factions though). Not

MY

fault if Town fails to build on it after I get lynched.

I'll say it again: One of Tails/NotTheRealPaul is a WW, the other is Mafia. 100% (hint to Town Seer)

Without getting into the immediate problems here (questioning vs. exclaiming, scumhunting vs freakout), there is a slight lean towards finding werewolves. Town's really not going to care at this point, or really come to this sort of conclusion. Almost is trying to make it look like he's hunting for both factions, but with his request of the seer, it's pretty obvious he's mainly concerned about the one. Wolves are not going to think about doing this, and town is really not going to care one over the other at this point in the game, given as they want both dead and flips to work with.

Well, considering there is NO COP in this game, who else would you have me ask for their attention??

We only have ONE investigative, and I'm narrowing down their pool for the first investigation. Now if we lynch one of you and they flip WOLF then the other is Mafia and no need for the Seer to check them.

Also, Town DOES in fact care. The Werewolves are the faction with the NK. Unless we can direct them to kill the Mafia (which we can't, both because we don't know who the Mafia are AND because you can't leash a Werewolf) then we aim to stop the NKs and take control of all the killings (which can only be though lynches at that point).

This is fact makes me lean WW on YOU, because you're worried I'm hunting specifically for YOUR faction, which in turn makes YOU hunting for MAFIA rather than WWs.

He does have a point about the lack of a Cop as well as WW being the stronger faction.

Guys; let's lynch Tails. If this doesn't flip a WEREWOLF I get speed lynched on D2. Any takers?

This feels like town as well though it's just a gut feeling.

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VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Also claimed mafia

-T

Ok explain where you're getting your scumclaims from.

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VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Also claimed mafia

-T

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Random completely out of context sheep.

A50 guarantees ww lynch.
Dunker knows he can get two back to back lynches if A50 wrong. If A50 correct, zero accountability sheep. No questioning either. I like this vote and will follow.

Self-reminder at this point to look back at who got lynched and how they flipped.

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I feel like all of A50, Titus and Tails are at least very likely to be town at this point.

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Why Brie over dunker?

Brie was trying awfully hard to distance from Almost when everything she claims to know about him as a player should be causing her to vote him. She outright stated that Almost was not playing like he does as town, yet she refused to vote him. She then continues to be noncommittal while avoiding the wagon. Also look at her fencesit on me. She's actively avoiding controversial wagons.

Good case.

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A50 might actually be scum

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A50 frustration reads as town

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Wisdom seems to be town, he appears to have the same reads I have at the point I'm at (page 7)

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Brie probably scum, dunno about the D person whose name I forgot
Kinda feel like I'm town reading too many people given the scum ratio in this game...

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Gen X is weird

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Reading hydras is gonna be a pain...

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Radja buddying me and going for the easy vote

Gamma having awful reads

Don't let anyone buddy you!
You're obvious town, buddy and people will take advantage of that unlike me, buddy!

Between us we have this, buddy!

Not sure if scum being blatantly obvious or town pulling a joke.

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@Titus: I don't care much about how I'm being judged at the moment. All I want is to flip Tails and have repeatedly said that I'm willing to pay the price if he flips Town. My problem is when I'm right I often get NK'd and then nobody looks back at anything I said, which is my biggest fear right now. Tails is SCUM, Genration X & NotTheRealPaul are likely Scum.

Town

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Vote Count 1.2

Tails:

Almost50, Dunkerdoodles, TheBrie

Dunkerdoogles:

Generation X, Titus, Eurotrash

Almost50:

Hellfire Missile, NotTheRealPaul

NotTheRealPaul:

Raya36

TheBrie:

Tails

Generation X:

Wisdom

Note Voting:

Vedith

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Day Ends:

(expired on 2017-06-19 10:05:00)

Mod Notes: Tomorrow's day phase I am going to do vote-counts a bit differently to avoid messing anything up like I have once.

Vedith should have voted someone by this point, surely there was enough to go off of.

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OK, slight change of plans: Lynch ME today, and when I flip TOWN you can go back and lynch Tails for me on D2. Does THIS sound fair enough?

No. I think you v tails is a waste of time and noise imo. It makes it hard to read you both.

If you get nked, it gives validation that your wolf reads are correct. If you flip mafia, I would be suspect of your trs.

More town

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Actually ill just do this

Raya36 - dunno
Almost50 - town
TheBrie - scum
Wisdom - town
Tails - town
Hellfire Missile - town
Titus - town
Dunkerdoodles - town
NotTheRealPaul - scum
Vedith - dunno
Eurotrash - scum
Generation X - scum

so one more scum in my dunno reads and solved

Quick isoing has me favoring vedith for fifth scum

These reads are really good imo bar maybe the hydras, Hellfire and Doodles.

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"let's give people passes because they're newbies"

- wisdom 2k17

That's obviously not what he said.

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TheBrie IS TOWN

O.O

BOTH WWs are on TheBrie right now. Her reaction and sheep of me hints she might be Seer herself. If she's not, the Seer needs to check in this wagon (Gen C and Wisdom in particular). Vedith is likely Town.

I don't get how TheBrie hinted at being the Seer but regardless it's a quite anti-town thing to point out here.

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I can't. You're play doesn't make me feel like it's coming from Town. There is literally NO CASE on TheBrie.

Fun fact I never realised how most votes on her (other than Gen X's) came literally out of nowhere.

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why concentrate on Mafia when we have the chance to turn this into a nightless game if we correctly lynch the remaining WW??

Many reasons

- The WW kill can help us by landing on mafia
- Mafia are three and we have to start lowering their numbers
- We have a Seer that can catch or at least limit the WW pool

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mobile posting for ego

unfortunately kingsmeet is happening now but hopefully ill be able to get into this still