OPEN 687: JUNGLE OLIGARCHY (GAME OVER)

Realeo · Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:36 pm

The entire playlist almost unanimously agrees that BTD is not town, it's just a matter of werewolf or mafia.

So it's either a car or a consolation prize, but it's not a zonk.

CommKnight · Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:38 pm

In post 1899, Realeo wrote:Because even a werewolf flip is not a game over for town and I'm confident that is not green.

That's assuming the wolves don't just say fuck it and shoot one of the townies to end the game if we lynch into the wolves today. I mean RC used his threat against them. Well if we lynch into wolves, then they can just kill townies to make us lose as well, bring us down with them so to speak.

So no, I'm really hoping this flips red, but I doubt it highly as it wasn't the towniest/werewolfy wagon at all.

Realeo · Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:46 pm

But I did the math and I realized that there is no way town can without kingmaker.

If we lynch werewolf, town can either win by mafia vs town with werewolf as king maker.

If we lynch mafia, town can either win by werewolf vs town with mafia as king maker.

The only way town can absolutely win is if we give werewolf the chance a way to absolutely win without kingmaker and that involves werewolf killing a certain person which I way I have a talk with RC.

Realeo · Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:50 pm

LEt's do the math.

BTD flips red.

3/3/2. Werewolf no kill. At that point, it's obvious who is' scum partner, right? We lynch mafia, werewolf night kill town.

1/2/2

Town votes for werewolf. Werewolf votes for town. Mafia is the kingmaker.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:00 pm

We can force 2 town 1 mafia 1 werewolf day phase.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:02 pm

game isn't over if btd6 flips some flavor of mafia/werewolf

My guess is it flips werewolf and a list comes out with radiant cowbells on it and commknight actually slipped

Realeo · Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:07 pm

Even if RC is not werewolf, that's fine, but whoever the werewolf are knows my offer.

We can force 2 town 1 mafia 1 werewolf day phase.

Exactly the point. It's a werewolf vs town vs mafia, but if town are able to lynch the werewolf, mafia is doomed due to the context of the game, so it's werewolf vs town but at that point mafia can't kingmaker.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:22 pm

If town lynch the werewolf Mafia has fair odds of winning by fooling town. that's our endgame here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:36 pm

I'm ngl the Flip Flip Flip thing pinged me enough that I feel like this is just not gonna flip mafia and that you're actually mafia with Vedith + fitz/comm

Dunnstral · Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:43 pm

Wait btd6 is hammered?

Good game everyone

Realeo · Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:19 pm

Dunnstral wrote:Wait btd6 is hammered?

Good game everyone

Told you RC.

Although, shame on you Dunn. You just lost kingmaker.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:41 am

You guys lynched before I caught up?

That can't be good...

Bins · Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:58 am

Votecount FINAL

(0)
Dunnstral

(0)
CommKnight

(0)
Realeo

(0)
Vedith

(0)
RadiantCowbells

(0)
kmd4390

(LYNCH)
BTD6_maker
- Realeo, RadiantCowbells, Vedith, havingfitz, CommKnight

(0)
havingfitz

(3)
Not Voting
- kmd4390, BTD6_maker, Dunnstral

With
8
alive, it's
5
to lynch.
Deadline in
(expired on 2017-07-05 23:00:00)
(July 5^th).

Mod Notes:

Bins · Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:06 am

A dead body is found
tied up in the jungle...

BTD6_maker,

Mafia Goon

, was lynched Day 4.

pinned to the body
a hit list from the Mafia:

CommKnight, kmd4390, Realeo

howls are heard in the distance
one may not make it through the night...

Night 4 will end in

(expired on 2017-06-26 13:00:00)

or when the Werewolves choose.

Bins · Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:41 pm

a peaceful night passes...

No one was killed Night 4.

Bins · Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:43 pm

Votecount 5.0

(0)
Dunnstral

(0)
CommKnight

(0)
Realeo

(0)
Vedith

(0)
RadiantCowbells

(0)
kmd4390

(0)
havingfitz

(7)
Not Voting
- kmd4390, Dunnstral, Realeo, RadiantCowbells, Vedith, havingfitz, CommKnight

With
7
alive, it's
4
to lynch.
Deadline in
(expired on 2017-07-10 23:00:00)
(July 10^th).

Mod Notes:

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:45 pm

VOTE: Vedithch

I'm confident Vedith is scum but I'm not sure what scumteam he belongs to.
I could see him as werewolves with Dunn>Comm>Fitz>KMD or Mafia with Comm>Dunn>Fitz but today is the last day we'll have the luxury of making a lynch without knowing what faction it'll flip.
@Realeo I followed you on BTD6 yesterday follow me today.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:02 pm

@mod can mafia change their list during twilight?

CommKnight · Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:06 pm

@RC, you realize we HAVE to vote in the 3 list right? I didn't realize this game had that mechanic as well. I knew it was in another game I signed up for, but didn't know it was in this one.

I'm gonna let kmd speak though before we do any lynching, because honestly, BTD feels like a bus-job to me. Now with Realeo and myself in the 3 chosen with conveniently the third being kmd when he's been inactive to defend himself? Yeah, not buying it.

Surprised WW's didn't kill RC last night once that list got released. Or So ideally we lynch another mafia, but I don't think we got that luxury today.

Dunnstral, Radiant Cowbells, Vedith and havingfitz. Those are the 4 names on TOWN'S list for tomorrow. One of them IS mafia at the very least with 1-2 wolves mixed in. I wouldn't be surprised if the cowardly mafia are both in that list of 4, why nominate one of them for the lynching block when they can nominate 3 people who are likely town. I'm a mislynch, Realeo is likely a mislynch (though possible he bussed, just seems unlikely) and kmd is LYNCH BAIT.

Bins · Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:06 pm

In post 1917, Dunnstral wrote:
@mod can mafia change their list during twilight?

I would take the list that is last submitted before I post the flip and the final lynch VC. If Mafia beat me to the lock, then yes.

CommKnight · Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:10 pm

@RC, I'm going to assume you're wolf for today. If so, Dunn dies tonight. If he's breathing tomorrow, I'm lynching you.

CommKnight · Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:16 pm

I'm dead serious. If Dunn isn't dead tonight and I'm breathing tomorrow, you hang RC. There will be no compromise hammer from me. I thought for sure we were about to lose our 3rd townie with how easy that wagon grew.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:28 pm

VOTE: Commknight

Comm slipped yesterday

I just confirmed that he was able to change the list as well and with ww nokilling him being on the list means nothing

Dunnstral · Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:29 pm

In post 1920, CommKnight wrote:@RC, I'm going to assume you're wolf for today. If so, Dunn dies tonight. If he's breathing tomorrow, I'm lynching you.

You're putting me on the list tonight?

CommKnight wrote:I'm dead serious. If Dunn isn't dead tonight and I'm breathing tomorrow, you hang RC. There will be no compromise hammer from me. I thought for sure we were about to lose our 3rd townie with how easy that wagon grew.

Not even trying to hide it anymore

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:58 pm

Comm because of your play in GIF's game I have given you an insane amount of benefit of the doubt and I'm running out of leash that I'm willing to give you. We can lynch whoever we want today. That person is going to be Vedith because they're to my current sensibilities probably werewolf and give more information about the remainder of the day than any other lynch. You can decide to trust me and lynch them if you're town. You can also decide that there's no good reason to fight my will if I'm scum because I have no motivation to lynch town as either faction right now.

Dunn can only be werewolves with KMD/Vedith or mafia with Vedith. I do not believe fitz/dunn is possible, I don't believe you/dunn is possible.
I also think that if KMD is wolfy his partner is going to be you close to 100% of the time so that lynch doesn't interest me right now, and he's also one of the 3 people I'm mulling over for last town.

Vedith goes. Non-negotiable.