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Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 3596, A2 wrote:Okay well
each scum has their own boon ability.
At most, there is 2 actions per scum member.

There were 3 actions on Snarky
and 1 on BTD.

So what say you to that
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Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:26 pm

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In post 3588, A2 wrote:
In post 3586, Ginngie wrote:to be honest, who the fuck blocks BTD?
Scum who has a way to have complete and full control of Light.
In post 3594, Ginngie wrote:So, I jailkept Snarky, and a strongman surpassed that ability.

Roleblock was hit onto BTD.

That means it's either one scum with the boon or two scum in the light
what if you got redirected to btd
you might have roleblocked him

so possible scum roles/factional boons:
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Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:27 pm

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In post 3600, Ginngie wrote:
In post 3596, A2 wrote:Okay well
each scum has their own boon ability.
At most, there is 2 actions per scum member.

There were 3 actions on Snarky
and 1 on BTD.

So what say you to that
I am really confused at what you're trying to get at.
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Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:27 pm

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Ya know...
Quantum is right.
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Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:28 pm

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In post 3576, A2 wrote:oh yeah btw

Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.
So you're scumreading me here then?
In post 3578, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3575, Bulbazak wrote:I don't know what a Railgun is, and I don't care. Do you think BTD plays exactly like you as scum or town?
Not required.

You're saying scum don't do things. I demonstrated scum do. The honus is on you to demonstrate BTD6 scum wouldn't fake a derp. I have seen BTD6 town and this ain't it. I destroyed your argument. It is up to you to reinforce it or acknowledge you don't have a point and are trying to save BTD6
Different players are different and different standards apply. From what I've seen, BTD6 isn't a player capable of faking that kind of confusion in the way that he did. In fact, I doubt that an idea like that would occur to him as scum. You are a different case, but don't try to muddy the issue by confusing yourself with BTD6. The question is whether BTD6 is capable of that as scum. I'm not sure that he is. You seem to think that he definitely could fake it. Why? Has he done this before? Where? When?
In post 3582, MathBlade wrote:BTD6 could have blocked me or maybe he didn't.
Are you saying that you were blocked now?

@A2: 1.) We don't know what those boons are capable of doing. For all we know, they could just be an additional power that only an individual scum can use, which is what the rules makes it sound like. If that's the case, nothings changed in regards to how we're hunting. If it's not, then we'll figure it out, but they still have to be in the light to use it, so, nothing's still changed in how we're hunting. 2.) Math is using the boon argument to say that non-light scum could have done any or all of what we have evidence of. In other words, Math is still trying to discredit the act of using all the powers at our disposal to PoE scum in the light by telling us we don't necessarily need to look there. Math's trying to keep the door open while we are trying to close it and narrow things down.
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Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:29 pm

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So it could be that strongman is the factional boon and the scum has another power besides it?
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Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:29 pm

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Okay, so say I was redirected, that do-

None of this is worth trying to figur out to be honest
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Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:29 pm

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tbh scum having two powers is a hint town must have lot of strong power roles too.
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Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 3597, 79 CE wrote:If you have a solid take on any of Aronis, BTD, texcat, Narna or Rauth I'd like to hear it.
Aronis is a strong townread. I'm not wild about BTD, but I'm starting to think he may be town here. Not sure on Texcat or Narna. Rauth and Quantum are strong townreads.
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Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 3604, Bulbazak wrote:So you're scumreading me here then?
Idunno the context I just felt like copy and pasting that neat quote you had in your sig
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Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 3600, Ginngie wrote:
In post 3596, A2 wrote:Okay well
each scum has their own boon ability.
At most, there is 2 actions per scum member.

There were 3 actions on Snarky
and 1 on BTD.

So what say you to that
3 claimed actions
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Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:31 pm

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Creature, it's role madness. Town has PRs everywhere. Everyone's a PR. Just not everyone is active.

P-edit: Take a glance at the source game. I was scum there.
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Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:31 pm

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Furthermore none of this discounts a bus driver. People are saying strongman because that is what they are used to.
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Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 3606, Ginngie wrote:Okay, so say I was redirected, that do-

None of this is worth trying to figur out to be honest
You can't say none of this is worth figuring out AND I am scum because of it.
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Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:32 pm

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math, who scum in the light
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Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 3604, Bulbazak wrote:@A2: 1.) We don't know what those boons are capable of doing. For all we know, they could just be an additional power that only an individual scum can use, which is what the rules makes it sound like. If that's the case, nothings changed in regards to how we're hunting. If it's not, then we'll figure it out, but they still have to be in the light to use it, so, nothing's still changed in how we're hunting. 2.) Math is using the boon argument to say that non-light scum could have done any or all of what we have evidence of. In other words, Math is still trying to discredit the act of using all the powers at our disposal to PoE scum in the light by telling us we don't necessarily need to look there. Math's trying to keep the door open while we are trying to close it and narrow things down.
Really?
Because to me, Math is coming across as "I AM BANGING MY HEAD ON A WALL OH MY GOD WHY IS NO ONE LISTENING TO ME."
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Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:33 pm

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In post 3614, Ginngie wrote:math, who scum in the light
Btd6 and Creature are my scumreads.

One of the claimers on Snarky most likely
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Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:34 pm

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In post 3612, MathBlade wrote:Furthermore none of this discounts a bus driver. People are saying strongman because that is what they are used to.
Pardon me but give it a fucking rest. Is there a need that we agree on this right this fucking second? No. You just come off like crazy and because I know you, I get labeled scummy for honestly calling you town.

Talk about your fucking reads. I'm pretty sure you are town but I am losing my patience.
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Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:35 pm

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In post 3616, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3614, Ginngie wrote:math, who scum in the light
Btd6 and Creature are my scumreads.

One of the claimers on Snarky most likely
404 error Math

Creature hella town by that good shit meta

and according to RC and Bulba, BTD that good good town AF
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Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:36 pm

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In post 3618, Ginngie wrote:Creature hella town by that good shit meta

and according to RC and Bulba, BTD that good good town AF
HEY
Do you have any reads of your own?
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Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:37 pm

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In post 3617, Titus wrote:
In post 3612, MathBlade wrote:Furthermore none of this discounts a bus driver. People are saying strongman because that is what they are used to.
Pardon me but give it a fucking rest. Is there a need that we agree on this right this fucking second? No. You just come off like crazy and because I know you, I get labeled scummy for honestly calling you town.

Talk about your fucking reads. I'm pretty sure you are town but I am losing my patience.
That is nigh on impossible while at Target navigating a throng of people.

I am doing my best to post in a game that went hypo nuclear.

Taking the time to actually write an hour long post that will be probably ignored seems ridiculous. I will do my best after dinner.
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Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 3617, Titus wrote:
In post 3612, MathBlade wrote:Furthermore none of this discounts a bus driver. People are saying strongman because that is what they are used to.
Pardon me but give it a fucking rest. Is there a need that we agree on this right this fucking second? No. You just come off like crazy and because I know you, I get labeled scummy for honestly calling you town.

Talk about your fucking reads. I'm pretty sure you are town but I am losing my patience.
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Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 3605, Creature wrote:So it could be that strongman is the factional boon and the scum has another power besides it?
sure. the boons happen in the light according to mechanics, so a scum roleblocker or redirector could, in theory, strongman kill. I don't think we're looking for a mafia member to flip strongman
In post 3606, Ginngie wrote:Okay, so say I was redirected, that do-

None of this is worth trying to figur out to be honest
wha
that makes perfect sense
you'd be redirected to btd without hesitation, he was lurking, so whatever you were would theoretically waste your action on an inactive slot
In post 3607, Creature wrote:tbh scum having two powers is a hint town must have lot of strong power roles too.
i mean, we just had three prot softs
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Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 3523, A2 wrote:I'm saying scum!Titus could easily do the reaction test.
Could someone tell me if the reaction test was Titus's idea?
In post 3583, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3582, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3580, 79 CE wrote:That's kind of my issue. I feel like if you were town you would've made this a 1v1 and been screaming to high heavens for BTD's head. Why haven't you?
Because I don't know what happened. BTD6 could have blocked me or maybe he didn't. There is no way for me to know. I scumread BTD6 but if I explain it requires claiming and I would rather hunt. Scum want to know something I am pretty damn sure that is why I am being wagoned.

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Merged thoughts. Could have been blocked or tracked me*
It sort of sounds like you might have been blocked? Were you blocked? I think that if you were blocked that would confirm BTD as scum.
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Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:10 pm

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Can we stop obsessing over theory spec
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