Mini 1927: Breaking Bad Mafia - Game Over

[Robbnva]

let's assume town does have a vig. does that change your opinion of mafia poison doc?

[Robbnva]

I think everyone scum reading A50 is reaching. Robb, you just don't like that he's being active and trying to get out in front of things. I think he's doing a great job of trying to get activity going. And I don't think his reads are that odd.

he's a lot of talk without much substance though.

[Almost50]

I also don't feel comfortable with a50 trying to act like he's the leader. Explanation of how desp is a town read would be helpful also.

I have to clear some things up before this day ends.

Would you rather Town fought amongst themselves while Scum did nothing but watch us lead crusades on each other?

And Desperado looks Town by play. I have experience with him and I think I learned how to read him.

Now what worries me about you is you are indirectly slinging mud on Wis and Desp and you also want Vax lynched. What are your reads on everyone else, because none of the 3 is on my own Scumdar. care to share?

[Robbnva]

No I want town to work together but your reads make no sense, so does your lynch pool. People you town read are the people I scum read so I don't trust you.

I am not slinging mud at anyone though. Wis has been legitimately scummy since day 1 and when I have tried to interact with him to determine his alignment he has refused to give me anything, so clearly he is scum and it continues day 2.

As for Desp, I just haven't seen anything from him that impresses me. His day 2 posts seem more like scum vying for town cred rather than genuine town

[Almost50]

How dumb would it be for me as 3rd party to not lynch the poisoner doc when everyone was voting him, if i was poisoner. This is bad logic and shading, A50 is probably mafia, i dont see how town can come up with this logic. Because if i was 3rd party I would want the poisoner doc dead, and 2. i would poison someone and not just fake it, since it would be my only way of killing. anyone town would think of those scenarios

Don't try to get "too smart" with me, gerry. We both know you could not have poisoned someone and then come to claim YOU were poisoned the very next day. The target will CC and you would be caught on the spot.

What you did is hold off your shot, come to fake you got poisoned to OUT the Poison Doc (and YOU knew there was one because Vecna's flip said he only protected against gunshots).

When Vax outed and cured you, he gets poisoned/shot the next night and you would be totally excluded from suspicion of being precisely the Poisoner.

Vax only had TWO votes at the start of today. He was wagoned yesterday, yes, but then you didn't know he was the Poison Doctor, did you? DID YOU?

[gerryoat]

I think everyone scum reading A50 is reaching. Robb, you just don't like that he's being active and trying to get out in front of things. I think he's doing a great job of trying to get activity going. And I don't think his reads are that odd.

What I do think is odd is Moza's insistence on me listing my reads. And doing so by quoting parts of posts where I list my reads. He did the same thing to A50. I think Moza is showing some of the same "leader" qualities you're not liking in A50. Thoughts?

whhy do you TR A50??

[Chickadee]

I think everyone scum reading A50 is reaching. Robb, you just don't like that he's being active and trying to get out in front of things. I think he's doing a great job of trying to get activity going. And I don't think his reads are that odd.

What I do think is odd is Moza's insistence on me listing my reads. And doing so by quoting parts of posts where I list my reads. He did the same thing to A50. I think Moza is showing some of the same "leader" qualities you're not liking in A50. Thoughts?

whhy do you TR A50??

I've seen a lot of scum A50 and this feels a lot different. He's making a lot of sense to me.

[Robbnva]

I've seen a lot of scum A50 and this feels a lot different. He's making a lot of sense to me.

examples please? feels like you could be town reading him cause he town reads you.

my biggest issue with you is post 39 you laugh at being asked for reads but 20 posts later you seem to have at least 2, possibly more. that doesn't read genuine to me. not much happened in those 20 posts imo

[gerryoat]

How dumb would it be for me as 3rd party to not lynch the poisoner doc when everyone was voting him, if i was poisoner. This is bad logic and shading, A50 is probably mafia, i dont see how town can come up with this logic. Because if i was 3rd party I would want the poisoner doc dead, and 2. i would poison someone and not just fake it, since it would be my only way of killing. anyone town would think of those scenarios

Don't try to get "too smart" with me, gerry. We both know you could not have poisoned someone and then come to claim YOU were poisoned the very next day. The target will CC and you would be caught on the spot.

What you did is hold off your shot, come to fake you got poisoned to OUT the Poison Doc (and YOU knew there was one because Vecna's flip said he only protected against gunshots).

When Vax outed and cured you, he gets poisoned/shot the next night and you would be totally excluded from suspicion of being precisely the Poisoner.

Vax only had TWO votes at the start of today. He was wagoned yesterday, yes, but then you didn't know he was the Poison Doctor, did you? DID YOU?

Okay, again I'll explain why your logic is flawed and has to come from mafia

1.) Why would I poison someone and then claim poisoned? That literally is the worst logic I've seen on this site.

2.) Why would I claim poisoned to out the poison doc, when you know, i could... POISON someone else and have THEM out the poisoned doc???

3.) Vax already claimed healer yesterday. So, if I knew there was a poisoner, I would have assumed that he could have either been A.) mafia or B.) poison doc. Thus which is why he shoulda been the poison target if Poisoner was smart yesterday night.

4.) Your last point is redundant and obviously flawed. You are so obvious mafia here that I am shocked that people aren't voting you more. I literally just destroyed this weak argument that you had twice in a row.

I want Chickadee to respond to what she thinks about this exchange in particular.

[gerryoat]

How is that making sense at all, Chickadee. Explain that post above.

[Robbnva]

The only way you claiming to be poisioned but are the poisioner makes sense is if it's a one shot. I can't imagine that that it is unlimited

[Robbnva]

There is still a chance that there is no poison doc

[Wisdom]

And Desperado looks Town by play.

incorrect

[Wisdom]

come to fake you got poisoned to OUT the Poison Doc

nope
Vax outted before gerry said he was poisoned

[Robbnva]

Desp hasn't really scum hunted this game and is voting Danny for his reaction alone which is bad. He's literally done nothing else of value. You can only gauge reactions if you know a person well enough which I doubt he does.

So desp scum/chick scum seems right to me.
Wisdom is probably the 3rd party. Possible scum but definitely not town.

[Wisdom]

and id poison gerry why?

[Almost50]

and would actually recommend gerry NOT be cured/healed.

so you are saying Gerry is scum?
then why arent you voting for him.
Fos.

Because he claims to be dying tonight anyway, DUH! Plus I want Danny more.

[Robbnva]

A50's 604 is so bad I almost want to say Gerry is town based on the theory he's trying to sell. Almost...

I definitely don't want a50 as my leader if he's town, and anyone else who is town should reject it also.

Sounds like trump paranoia

[Robbnva]

and id poison gerry why?

I haven't been able to understand your motives all game. What make you think I'd be able to now?

[Almost50]

Ok, so early reads list:


Town: Moz
Chick
Almost
Rob

Pos scum: Wisdom
Danny Boy
Backhand
Vecna

Null: Everone else.

Ok, reads list day 2.

So town:

Moz
Backhand
Gerry
Vax
Robb

Null:
Wisdom
Danny

Pos scum:
Chick,
Almost
Desp.
Edos.

For the record, i found Chick's "oh, i'm gonna stay on Vecna wagon until oi know different" unconvincing, and her reads have been so fucking vague today.
Almost likewise seems very unemtional and vague.
Desp voted Danny for no good reason.
Edos - he's a fart in the wind, prob. SK if there is one.

Cool, game solved!

Ok, so you explained your reverse on reads on both me and Chicka, but why the reverse on Backhand? And why are Wisdom & Danny up from pos scum to null?

[Robbnva]

gerry reads poisoned mafia whos trying to be healed
Let him die

Maybe this answers your question?

Attack low hanging fruit, advocate against them being saved, Discredit them in the process.

Just spit balling though.

[Almost50]

Currently I wouldn't even consider lynching in Wisdom, Chicka, Desperado & Vax.

This list is weird. Those names should definitely be under more suspicion. The fact he has them as his "do not lynch" list is weird.

Chick and wisdom have done nothing to warrant a town read.
Desp I could see I guess but personally he has been giving me a lamist vibe.

OK. Got it. You suspect EVERYONE. Is there someone who is NOT a possible lynch to you today? Anyone at all?

[mozamis]

every post from almost 50 seems long winded empty scum bollocks.
no reads.

[Chickadee]

How is that making sense at all, Chickadee. Explain that post above.

The thinking is not that you poisoned someone and then claimed poison. The thinking is that you intentionally did not poison someone, so that you could claim to be poisoned. Then if your poison shot is x-shot you wouldn't have wasted it. You just weren't understanding what A50 was saying.

[mozamis]

VOTE: ALMOST 50