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[Steel]

Gamma

prod scorpious so the timer for his replace can start.

[WhyMafia]

@Steel what if there are 3 scum? And Mario, why don't you look at Alban for me

[MarioManiac4]

I'll do that!

[WhyMafia]

Also I'm not paying attention to the finer details for the moment but I believe alban is just noise.

Sorry, but what do you mean by this? I just want clarification

[WhyMafia]

Yay!

[Steel]

Never mind, I guess he appeared onsite for the first time in days just now.

[Steel]

Also I'm not paying attention to the finer details for the moment but I believe alban is just noise.

Sorry, but what do you mean by this? I just want clarification

Noise as in probably a distraction. I've read a game he and Io was in a while ago and he came across as the very self conscious type which is generally pretty scummy.

[WhyMafia]

Also I'm not paying attention to the finer details for the moment but I believe alban is just noise.

Sorry, but what do you mean by this? I just want clarification

Noise as in probably a distraction. I've read a game he and Io was in a while ago and he came across as the very self conscious type which is generally pretty scummy.

That takes away one reason to SR him, but I still have a dozen more

[Gamma Emerald]

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Day 2 VC #2

Awesomeusername (0) -​​
WhyMafia (1) - Alban (869)
Steel (0) -
I​​o (0) -
Scorpious (0) -
Alban (1) - WhyMafia (867)
MarioManiac4 (0) -
LlamaFluff (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (6) - Awesomeusername, Mulch, LlamaFluff, Scorpious, MarioManiac4, Steel

Lynch Threshold

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

Day 2 will end by August 5, 2017 5:30 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-08-05 17:30:00).

Moderator Notes

Moderator V/LA July 24-28. Please address issues to Gamma Emerald during that time.
Have fun!
(VC edited by Ircher.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

WhyMafia: Alban (867)
Alban: WhyMafia (869)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Awesomeusername: Scorpious (73) --> I am Innocent (205) --> (Null) (387) --> Vedith (496) --> (Null) (565) --> LlamaFluff (586) --> (Null) (597)

Vedith

: Carcalilly (88) --> Tchill13 (135) --> Steel (193) --> WhyMafia (455) --> Scorpious (459) --> Carcalilly (580) -->

Vedith (755)*

Lil Uzi Vert

(replaced by WhyMafia)

: MarioManiac4 (192) --> Steel (256)
WhyMafia

(replaced Lil Uzi Vert)

: Alban (460) --> Carcalilly (571) --> Vedith (588) --> Carcalilly (591) --> Vedith (727)
Steel: No Lynch (127) ==> No Lynch (182) --> Lil Uzi Vert (254) --> (Null) (272) --> Carcalilly (279) --> Scorpious (419) --> Vedith (442) --> (Null) (469) --> Vedith (545) --> LlamaFluff (537) --> Carcalilly (570)
Io: Steel (67) --> Io (132) --> (Null) (164) --> I am Innocent (204) --> MarioManiac4 (365) --> (Null) (428) --> Vedith (618) --> (Null) (724)
Scorpious: Lil Uzi Vert (99) --> (Null) (482) --> Vedith (587)
Alban: Vedith (104)

Tchill13

: Carcalilly (129) --> (Null) (147) --> Vedith (231) --> Scorpious (437) --> (Null) (475) --> Carcalilly (592)

Carcalilly

: MarioManiac4 (78) --> Vedith (90) --> Lil Uzi Vert (102) ==> Lil Uzi Vert (120) --> Io (133) --> Tchill13 (138) --> MarioManiac4 (170) --> Vedith (298) --> MarioManiac4 (377) --> Alban (602) --> Vedith (695)
MarioManiac4: Carcalilly (66) --> (Null) (157) --> Tchill13 (174) --> Scorpious (176) --> Steel (189) --> (Null) (289) --> MarioManiac4 (340) --> Vedith (345) --> Scorpious (405)
I am Innocent (

replaced by LlamaFluff

): Carcalilly (69)
LlamaFluff (

replaced I am Innocent

): Vedith (532)

Dawn

Awesomeusername: MarioManiac4 (7)

Vedith

: Tchill13 (13) --> Scorpious (24)

Tchill13

: MarioManiac4 (49)

Carcalilly

: Vedith (15) --> MarioManiac4 (19) --> Scorpious (30) --> MarioManiac4 (58)
MarioManiac4: Vedith (4) --> Carcalilly (50)

[WhyMafia]

Gamma why did you choose that color grr

[Scorpious]

Here, will try this tonight

[Scorpious]

I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..

[WhyMafia]

Here, will try this tonight

When you come back, please tell us who you believe to scum and why

[WhyMafia]

I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..

It does .. but by PoE I town read Mulch
Keep trying, and make a better case!

[WhyMafia]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying .. I'm just really jittery right now XD

[Scorpious]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying .. I'm just really jittery right now XD

No its not..

I prefer the questions, helps me get a foothold on the game..

[WhyMafia]

What do you think of Llama and Alban? Or about yours truly?

[Mulch]

And on a similar point @llama- basically, you've reiterated that you had scumreads on Vedith/policy on Vedith and Carca too, etc, but my point is mostly that you made this big stuff on Carca and then your vote basically wasn't there when it mattered and instead you opted for your policy, and that in my experience it's very often for scum to try and hedge and try to seem like they are weighing all options then choose to vote the person not their partners in the end. There's very little you can say to try to change my mind about this, although I would like to continue to hear your thoughts. (And the strawman dosen't help)

I am very pro-policy lynch. That is not at all a secret. The site needs to me more willing to policy lynch players who act like Vedith did this game.


Not even sure what you want me to say. I made my case on Vedith as what little content he had was scummy. I defended attacks on my reads that Carcalilly was scum independently of Vedith and worked even better as a artner. I got my top scum read lynched when he outwardly refused to start giving reads or doing anything else productive.

First: A serious question. Do you scumread self meta, or are you just saying that as a buzzword?

Unprompted and used defensively, self-meta is a scum tell. Its funny especially in this game since we already saw scum using it as a defense. If its theory discussion its null.

I guess I can see that your policy lynch would take preference over a scumread on Carca, etc. But I just think it's a major red flag. Again, there is not much you can say here to try and convince me of your actions, except maybe go into a little more into your mindset? It's happened in the past and nothing can really defend against it. I get what you are saying and I can understand how it could be natural thoughts to think of two scumreads and try and pit them against each other, point out each, then make the bad vote when it matterd, but it's still there.

In terms of the self meta, I just disagree. Flat out. I barely see scum doing it (yeah, Carca was an exception here).

[Mulch]

Alban I hear you loud and clear about your playstyle. Trust me, I've been there (i barely try day 1 either at least half the games). But my problem isn't really the fact you aren't trying but more the fact you seemed to try to appear like you were solving, but in fact you really weren't. Do you get what I'm saying?

[Mulch]

hello i'm probably going to look at vedith's reads now on people that arent tchill and carca and check if they are good
also tchill's i guess

Speaking of that, Vedith read Io as one of his top 4 townreads

[Mulch]

@Alban that's why there's something called UNVOTE
If you were so angry that Vedith was obvious town you should've unvoted and pushed for someone else's lynch. I don't buy you, not one bit. Sure, you were formulating cases against everyone, but you just needed one person that you believed to be scum. The fact that the voting was progressing that quickly should've alarmed you. And you hardly did anything early game to be warranted any form of town cred. And before I get called out for giving shade, I already explained his early game posts. His current posts are doing nothing to convince me otherwise. In hindsight, yes lynching him was a mistake. I'll admit that.

That's actually a really good point and something I didn't even consider when I was scumreading Alban before.

[Mulch]

wasnt scorpious online like 5 minutes ago i am 99% sure he was

also i'm still thinking of what productive things to do because i am fairly lost right now everything i knew of this game was proven to be a lie n1

I would go through all the Vedith votes and see which ones are the shittiest

[Mulch]

I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..

It's not fake, cause it's real

[Mulch]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying .. I'm just really jittery right now XD

This is horrible self conciousness right now. Scummy.

[Mulch]

I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..

It does ..

but by PoE I town read Mulch

Keep trying, and make a better case!

explain