Game of Thrones

[Korts]

I did.

Spoiler: HYPER-SPOILERS AHEAD

Did you catch the name of the anti-dragon weapon? Qyburn's Scorpion. I wonder if that name has any meaning given the inventor is a poison-savvy guy who was even explicitly lampshaded as poison-savvy last episode...

This makes a distressing amount of sense.

[Rhinox]

I really really liked this episode a lot but... not my fav of the series though. I enjoyed ep3 this season more. Compared to some of the other big battle episodes this one was good but I'd still put it behind battle of the blackwater, battle of the bastards, watchers on the wall, and hardhome. I really enjoy the no cut long shot thing they do in battles its kind of becoming a signature of the show, but I think this is the 4th time we've seen it now and I think the first time the focus wasn't Jon. Seemed a little corny with Bronn IMO. Drogon in battle was cool though.

I was kinda worried we weren't going to get an arya reunion. First when she was at the gates, then after when she looked around then disappeared I thought she might decide she didn't belong and run. That was kinda the thing with arya in earlier seasons, every time she would almost get back with her family just to have the rug pulled out.

In the next time on previews, was that a shot of

dany and drogon in front of Jon demanding one final time to bend the knee??

[Wraith]

if you really want to stretch it and say she went around KL, then there's no reason why jaime shouldn't have gotten ambushed

Have we reached peak "stealth teleporting army/fleet" level? Or was Euron's in the last episode even worse?

Like seriously the Dothraki marched across the continent and no one noticed until they were right on top of them. No news or rumors or anything to just basically indicate that this world is realistic. These are DOTHRAKI. Terror should be rapidly spreading across the land as they thoroughly rape and pillage everything in their path. Jorah explicitly advised her to go to Astapor and get Unsullied back in season 3 for this exact reason, and now we've forgotten about it, conveniently just in time for more teleporting bullshit to happen.

Battle was cool, though. The shot and soundtrack when Drogon roared into view legit gave me goosebumps.

[Fluminator]

Anyone going to be watching these guys next tv show "confederate"?

[Wraith]

Anyone going to be watching these guys next tv show "confederate"?

I'm split. They haven't handled female characters and gender issues very well on GoT, so I'm exceedingly skeptical how well they will be able to handle race.

On the other hand,

someone

has to fight the fight against Lost Cause bullshit that will inevitably tag along.

[Wraith]

Oh wow, there was a pretty blatant hole in the writing last episode that I didn't notice at the time but just found out about.

When Arya arrives at the gates of Winterfell, she is told "Lady Stark" currently rules the castle, and asks "Which one?" Yet there are only three possibilities for the identity of "Lady Stark" - Sansa, Catelyn, and Arya herself. Arya was at the Red Wedding and thus knows her mother is dead.

So why is Arya confused as to who is the "Lady Stark" the guards are referring to?

[Chevre]

Is that really a hole? I think Arya is just dumbfounded that a Lady Stark could be in charge of Winterfell given the circumstances.

[chamber]

I noticed that at the time. It's a huge stretch to call that a plot hole. Shes been out of the north for a long time. Maybe it's someone Jon married for all she knows.

[chamber]

Would she even know Sansa is in the north?

[Rhinox]

if you really want to stretch it and say she went around KL, then there's no reason why jaime shouldn't have gotten ambushed

Have we reached peak "stealth teleporting army/fleet" level? Or was Euron's in the last episode even worse?

Like seriously the Dothraki marched across the continent and no one noticed until they were right on top of them. No news or rumors or anything to just basically indicate that this world is realistic. These are DOTHRAKI. Terror should be rapidly spreading across the land as they thoroughly rape and pillage everything in their path. Jorah explicitly advised her to go to Astapor and get Unsullied back in season 3 for this exact reason, and now we've forgotten about it, conveniently just in time for more teleporting bullshit to happen.

Battle was cool, though. The shot and soundtrack when Drogon roared into view legit gave me goosebumps.

The battle happened near the blackwater outside kings landing.

[Cheetory6]

Oh wow, there was a pretty blatant hole in the writing last episode that I didn't notice at the time but just found out about.

Garbage show cancel it.

[Wraith]

I noticed that at the time. It's a huge stretch to call that a plot hole. Shes been out of the north for a long time. Maybe it's someone Jon married for all she knows.

That's actually a decent point.

But the pedantic in me must point out that a wife of Jon Snow, King in the North, would be referred to as "Queen X" and not "Lady Stark"

[Wraith]

if you really want to stretch it and say she went around KL, then there's no reason why jaime shouldn't have gotten ambushed

Have we reached peak "stealth teleporting army/fleet" level? Or was Euron's in the last episode even worse?

Like seriously the Dothraki marched across the continent and no one noticed until they were right on top of them. No news or rumors or anything to just basically indicate that this world is realistic. These are DOTHRAKI. Terror should be rapidly spreading across the land as they thoroughly rape and pillage everything in their path. Jorah explicitly advised her to go to Astapor and get Unsullied back in season 3 for this exact reason, and now we've forgotten about it, conveniently just in time for more teleporting bullshit to happen.

Battle was cool, though. The shot and soundtrack when Drogon roared into view legit gave me goosebumps.

The battle happened near the blackwater outside kings landing.

How do we know that?

Was this explicitly stated in the show and I just missed it?

Where did those giant rocky plateaus come from? We have never seen them from King's Landing. It is not the terrain near King's Landing. It is nowhere close to the terrain on the map in that very post. Terrain near King's Landing and the Blackwater is heavily forested or flat. This would be a valid question whether or not the battle took place in the Crownlands or the Reach, it is merely more valid because we have never seen similar terrain near King's Landing in the past while we have seen nothing of the Reach.

This explanation doesn't make sense.

[chamber]

Based on the conversation I assumed they were like immediately outside kings landing. There was a report that all the gold had made it to kings landing, presumably part of their supply line. They yell for jaime to run to kings landing at one point. They mention they'll be across the blackwater before nightfall, which I read as the end of the supply line will be.

[Claus]

They made a point to say the gold made it to KL anyways.

i don't remember that part

either way, you have to wonder what everyone else is doing in westeros if jaime had NO warning about this considering that:

1) this is the first time dothraki are on the continent
2) DRAGON

If this show is pretty consistent about anything last two seasons, it is about "scouts? what is that pffffft".

- Late head sparrow sneaking the king into the Sept last season
- Vale's army sneaking up the King's road last season
- Lannister's army sneaking up High Garden last episode
- Victarion... I mean Euron sneaking up his fleet everywhere
- Sneak ninja Dothraki.

Someone should gift D&D with a book on medieval warfare >_>

[Annadog40]

Maybe everyone is already dead.

[PJ.]

Y'all watching game of thrones too seriously.

Y'all worried about how the dothraki teleported instead of just appreciating that the fight was legit one of the most anticipated things of the last few seasons, right up there with R+L=J

[xRECKONERx]

Oh wow, there was a pretty blatant hole in the writing last episode that I didn't notice at the time but just found out about.

When Arya arrives at the gates of Winterfell, she is told "Lady Stark" currently rules the castle, and asks "Which one?" Yet there are only three possibilities for the identity of "Lady Stark" - Sansa, Catelyn, and Arya herself. Arya was at the Red Wedding and thus knows her mother is dead.

So why is Arya confused as to who is the "Lady Stark" the guards are referring to?

good god you will stop at nothing to stretch any little thing into bad writing to prove your point

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah I'm rather over the teleporting complaints

Would y'all prefer 6 episodes of Dothraki riding aimlessly around instead of just getting to the actual interesting stuff?

[xRECKONERx]

This marks the beginning of Cersei's downfall.

Team Cersei: **systematically eliminates all enemies of the Crown, with a distinct plan for how to stop the last one**

Reck: "How will Cersei recover? It's all over!"

#tbt

[Rhinox]

Was this explicitly stated in the show and I just missed it?

yup:

Based on the conversation I assumed they were like immediately outside kings landing. There was a report that all the gold had made it to kings landing, presumably part of their supply line. They yell for jaime to run to kings landing at one point. They mention they'll be across the blackwater before nightfall, which I read as the end of the supply line will be.

You're definitely in the tunnel vision stage of hating the show, where everything is scummy, even when its clearly not.

[AniX]

This marks the beginning of Cersei's downfall.

Team Cersei: **systematically eliminates all enemies of the Crown, with a distinct plan for how to stop the last one**

Reck: "How will Cersei recover? It's all over!"

#tbt

A few dead men are well worth poisoning a dragon.

[Korts]

Based on the conversation I assumed they were like immediately outside kings landing. There was a report that all the gold had made it to kings landing, presumably part of their supply line. They yell for jaime to run to kings landing at one point. They mention they'll be across the blackwater before nightfall, which I read as the end of the supply line will be.

Yeah. I think a more germane question would be how the Dothraki even got to the mainland in the first place, since both halves of Dany's fleet have now been destroyed - the ships headed toward Dorne, and the ones laying siege to Casterly Rock were I assume most if not all of the ships she had, so unless the Dothraki had been ferried to the shore beforehand, or she flew them in via dragon a handful at a time, I don't see how such a big army could realistically be transported over water.

[Rhinox]

I'm pretty sure tyrion said they still had enough ships for the dothraki right before dany cut him off with the "enough with the clever plans" tirade but I'd need to watch again to confirm.

[rolandofthewhite]

I did.

Spoiler: HYPER-SPOILERS AHEAD

Did you catch the name of the anti-dragon weapon? Qyburn's Scorpion. I wonder if that name has any meaning given the inventor is a poison-savvy guy who was even explicitly lampshaded as poison-savvy last episode...

This makes a distressing amount of sense.

I just figured Qyburn's scorpion was named after the Roman weapon.