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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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Lang can you do this please?In post 1403, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1191, Something_Smart wrote:Ari is so high on my list because I know him really well.
Seems you guys aren't willing to trust me so I'll have to make a case. Can whoever is scumreading him point to specific things that you scumread him for?-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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Then we agree that it's not a simple answer to say scum did or didn't try to kill me - so I have no idea why you're telling me I should have used your so-called simple answer.In post 1448, Something_Smart wrote:I don't, but given that I was actually around when your predecessor was here I don't think anyone would protect him.
Why was my answer 'interesting' again besides, unlike some of your claimed answers of how I should have responded, being correct?
So, at what stage then is it integral for me to assess my predecessor's reads?In post 1448, Something_Smart wrote:For one, it's multiball so each scumteam only knows half of how good someone's reads are. Also there's how townread someone is, PR tells, intended crosskills, reputation, none of which your slot had. And it's only been 2 nights so sure maybe a slot with really good reads wouldn't survive until LYLO but we're not nearly there yet.
You often say things like this to me, has it ever worked?In post 1449, Titus wrote:Cmon you were my first IC Thor. You know what I am saying here.
Dunno, don't care, already told you that - you refusing to read doesn't then obligate my usual refusal to read to magically end.In post 1449, Titus wrote:What were your predecessors reads at n1?
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Judge Joseph Dredd Mafia Scum
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Lang Buddha Goon
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Sure, man; rightIn post 1451, Something_Smart wrote:Lang can you do this please?In post 1403, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1191, Something_Smart wrote:Ari is so high on my list because I know him really well.
Seems you guys aren't willing to trust me so I'll have to make a case. Can whoever is scumreading him point to specific things that you scumread him for?afterwe lynch him, ya-ya.-
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CommKnight Mafia Scum
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No. In a game like this with 3 scum alive from 2 killer factions, claiming PR only serves to let them off our PRs.In post 1432, Titus wrote:@CommKnight, Should we do PR/VT claims only? Yes/no.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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When I wasn't clear what people were referring to I went back to see what Dave had said to prompt it.In post 1453, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:@umlaut: when you do isos do you do then individually or do you include davesas so you know what post/reaction came to after what post/action?
My understanding is that Davesaz was a deadline compromise lynch based mostly on "he's not really doing much," so I shouldn't expect to find a whole lot of strong arguments there. Vedith is an exception, having pushed him as actually being scummy. I don't love the argument and I'm a little wary of him based on it but I don't think it's impossible he really did see something that wasn't there.
What I dislike about your vote in particular, Dredd, is that it came at the end of the day like everyone else's who was treating it as a deadline compromise, but was argued as if you had really strong feelings that Dave was scum all of a sudden. The fact that he was "opportunistic" (which I still don't see) was enough to outweigh the townread you'd had all the rest of the day to the point where you weren't conflicted at all about voting.
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Vedith, what did you actually find so opportunistic about Dave's read on Ari? Did you want to rope him based on that alone, or were there other factors as well? I know it's awkward to try and argue why flipped town is scummy, but give it a shot.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Day 3 VC 6
WhyMafia: Something_Smart, Thor665, Vedith, CommKnight
Aristophanes: Lang Buddha, Judge Joseph Dredd
Umlaut: WhyMafia
Judge Joseph Dredd: Umlaut
Thor665: Titus
Not Voting: Aristophanes
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-08-12 12:30:00)
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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So what? We'd get three conftown for a day worst case and the town PR that stopped nks can be even more direct.In post 1455, CommKnight wrote:
No. In a game like this with 3 scum alive from 2 killer factions, claiming PR only serves to let them off our PRs.In post 1432, Titus wrote:@CommKnight, Should we do PR/VT claims only? Yes/no.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Judge Joseph Dredd Mafia Scum
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same reason i sr nm b4 and lang now. theyre all skating by in different ways and aris' is always promising to do things in the future (tomorrow, nwxt tuesday etc)In post 1456, WhyMafia wrote:@JjD why is Aris scum?I AM THE LAW!-
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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Judge Joseph Dredd Mafia Scum
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my stance has been and always will be that lynching "scum" is better than mo lynch but no lynch is still better than lynching townIn post 1457, Umlaut wrote:What I dislike about your vote in particular, Dredd, is that it came at the end of the day like everyone else's who was treating it as a deadline compromise, but was argued as if you had really strong feelings that Dave was scum all of a sudden. The fact that he was "opportunistic" (which I still don't see) was enough to outweigh the townread you'd had all the rest of the day to the point where you weren't conflicted at all about voting.
i didnt sr aris back then and no strong arguments were presented against him so we were likely not going to lynch on d1
i just went back to remind myself what happened exactly and found aris had 5 votes on him and one was raya whom i heavily scum read and another was crush whom i also srd at the time and voted him shortly after and dave exclaimed on what my vote accomplished with 13 hours remaining in the day then shortly after added the 6th vote on aris and i saw no reason for him to push for the lynch when he wasnt sure and was foing the exact same thing you are accusing me of doing: finding a reason to vote aris
i mean just iso dave again and do a search on aris and youd find dave never even mentioned aris is anyway b4 he decided to vote him and it didnt feel right to me so i saw it as an opportunistic move to get a mislynch through b4 the day ended and if u still think this was a bad move on my part then so be it but i just wanted you to be on the know and see how things progressed rather than read isolated isos that do not really show the atmosphere around the situationI AM THE LAW!-
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Judge Joseph Dredd Mafia Scum
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i dont really know anymoreIn post 1461, Something_Smart wrote:And you don't believe that he plays like that as town too?
i read a recent game of his and he was scum and was also low on activity but he actually was better than this and provided some content when he did post. he had arguments and looked like he was trying to solve the game somewhat so im not sure if he is really scum here or just disconnected to the game so lets see what he has to offer and if he will ever deliverI AM THE LAW!-
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CommKnight Mafia Scum
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We don't even know if it was the same person stopping these NKs hopefuly the jailor if we have one keeps jailing the same person and somehow drops a hint if we ISO them if they were to die, but other than that outing today only serves to help scum. With this many town alive even WW's would probably help mafia in taking out the PRs before turning on each other.In post 1459, Titus wrote:
So what? We'd get three conftown for a day worst case and the town PR that stopped nks can be even more direct.In post 1455, CommKnight wrote:
No. In a game like this with 3 scum alive from 2 killer factions, claiming PR only serves to let them off our PRs.In post 1432, Titus wrote:@CommKnight, Should we do PR/VT claims only? Yes/no.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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I town read Umlaut and Judge Dredd now.
Otherwise happy with my vote.
With three days left I'd like to force a claim on someone. Some of those straggler votes should go into high octane sheeping demands or should consolidate on a viable wagon.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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I suspect we're going to, people are just being slurpy slow about it.-
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Yeah, I forgot this game existed. I'll legit be here tonight. If I'm not, lynch away since I'm not contributing much!Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Yes and it should be you. I am not voting WhyMafia with your obvscum ass pushing it.In post 1465, Thor665 wrote:I town read Umlaut and Judge Dredd now.
Otherwise happy with my vote.
With three days left I'd like to force a claim on someone. Some of those straggler votes should go into high octane sheeping demands or should consolidate on a viable wagon.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Like how could a PR ever drop a hint CommKnight? Please tell me if you're town you've begun to work on your listening skills.In post 1464, CommKnight wrote:
We don't even know if it was the same person stopping these NKs hopefuly the jailor if we have one keeps jailing the same person and somehow drops a hint if we ISO them if they were to die, but other than that outing today only serves to help scum. With this many town alive even WW's would probably help mafia in taking out the PRs before turning on each other.In post 1459, Titus wrote:
So what? We'd get three conftown for a day worst case and the town PR that stopped nks can be even more direct.In post 1455, CommKnight wrote:
No. In a game like this with 3 scum alive from 2 killer factions, claiming PR only serves to let them off our PRs.In post 1432, Titus wrote:@CommKnight, Should we do PR/VT claims only? Yes/no.
Quickwagon Thor!ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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That is more of a stance than you have otherwise provided thus far, and if you have any interest in seeing it advanced you need to provide a sexy bullet point case asap for people to sheep.In post 1469, Titus wrote:Yes and it should be you. I am not voting WhyMafia with your obvscum ass pushing it.-
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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Nah. I don't think bullets are the key to anything. We have less than 3 days.In post 1471, Thor665 wrote:
That is more of a stance than you have otherwise provided thus far, and if you have any interest in seeing it advanced you need to provide a sexy bullet point case asap for people to sheep.In post 1469, Titus wrote:Yes and it should be you. I am not voting WhyMafia with your obvscum ass pushing it.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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I'd love your readslist Thor.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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I've provided the reads I have, anyone else would be in 'null' at this stage.
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