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[pisskop]

5 out of the7 people not on me have expressed zero interest in voting me.


good luck

[Backhand]

The fact PK's wagon is dragging on for so long despite being put to L-1 twice really does point to the fact that PK is scum.

Nah, all 3 scum are barely ever on the same wagon, especially on D1.

If you put those two arguments together you end up with a whole bunch of nothing. If scum don't want to be on the same wagon Day 1 then it would follow that if scum were already on pk's wagon they would not want to hammer so as to avoid ending up on the same wagon.

(Aside: you're right that scum rarely are all on the same wagon Day 1 but given that meta totally knows that, scum should actually do it more often)

Tchill, havo, ignition--this is where our inquiries should be moving.

Ignition, you don't want to use the newbie excuse (I get it)--so explain very clearly what caused you to hop off and hop on the pisskop wagon? Do some quoting and stuff.

[Backhand]

and this is why you probably aren't town either. you don't say people aren't explaining it because you refuse to read.

p.edit - I don't enable lazy people. sorry scum #2

Oh trust me, that's not why I'm probably not scum, you have a fun road ahead of you yet!
Not that you will be here for the rest of the game.

Daykill Rob

Thanks. \o/

VOTE: BBT

OMG!!!!!!!!
Be ready for Mass confusion and Hysteria!!

Oh wait, the people that whined at me are silent
As a mouse about this.

Fair--vedith, that daykill was dumb.

[Virtuoso]

VC

[Virtuoso]

Sorry wrong game lol

[BlueBloodedToffee]

While you're here Virtuoso, how about hammering PK?

[Virtuoso]

I'd much rather be lynching Fykus

[pisskop]

heyhey

6 of 7.

Loverman and rob, and maybe havo and catman

let us be talking about a real wagon with a goodfeel vibe to it.

[pisskop]

maybe can finally force some content and progress

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'd much rather be lynching Fykus

Fykus isn't happening right now.

We have two wagons and one of them needs to at least have a claim before we end up out of time and scrambling for some random wagon before deadline.

PK or TChill. You choose.

P.S - The PK wagon has your favourite flavour of cookie on it. Choose that one.

[Virtuoso]

Are they both at L-1?

[Hopkirk]

Will go through suspicions on Tchill after catching up.

Then why me over them, dont you think that also no indication that im town also means no better indication that im scum

Are you just busy irl or something teech or are you trying a new way of playing?

VOTE: cloud

Why did you switch back to cloud after 582, and Tchill voting cloud?

The whole interaction cloud had right before my vote was really unsettling and youll see i asked tchill a question not long after i voted him. I figured i should give him time to answer so i switched my vote. His answer is satisfactory for the moment so ill wait and see if he backs it up with actions.

I'd have expected you to keep your vote on him while asking the question.

Beetlejuice traditionally implies the sudden presence of an active lurker when mentioned by name.

And, by extension, the sudden presence and farce participation, of a lurking scumbag

In my experience it's when you suddenly appear after somebody has mentioned your name. Before my weekend trip I don't remember tchill being a lurker so I don't even think your definition would apply either.

Your predecessor was a lurker though

The second comment here doesn't really match the first. Piss said Tchill lurked until challenged. Robb seems to read it as just 'Tchill lurked' given he brings up the predecessor lurking. I'd like to know how you got this reading of it.

[Hopkirk]

I've said all I can say - no point repeating it.

I can assure you though that I won't stop trying to get you lynched the entire game as long as I'm alive.

Is your case still based almost fully on a newbie's RVS play? It seems excessively strong.

Just to be clear nobody thinks a wagon on fykus is a good idea? I'm not crazy about how he took his vote off me then immediately voted someone else. That seemed a little odd. I'd also like to know how I'm scummier than cloud kicker at the moment.

You mention this (Fykus' play) without referencing the explination Fykus gave for it. Did you miss it, ignore it, or not buy it (and if so why?) I'm not sure why you'd not mention it without missing it, and missing it seems unlikely given he's a scumread of yours.

Also you put PK and Cloud as your two biggest scumreads shortly later. I don't see why you'd be interested in a new wagon when the two biggest wagons are your top two scumreads.

Pisskop what are your other scum reads? Why push me in particular instead of fykus or cloud kicker or even havo? That's what I'm scratching my head about.

This just sounds like 'why are you voting me' disguised as a less explicit question.

[Hopkirk]

The above point about Tchill wanting a wagon on Fykus is less relevant than I thought after seeing Cloud only had 2 votes on the next page’s votecount. Still stands somewhat given PK is/was the top vote though.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: fykus

We need to pressure fykus a bit about his vote switch from me onto cloud kicker

[Hopkirk]

I dont want to put my vote on somebody that I think will flip town. For a slot that was almost universally scum read pk has done a pretty decent job of getting alot of content out there in the short time that hes been here. I cant pinpoint exactly what it is about him but I've got a pretty big inkling that hes going to flip town if we lynch him.

Cloud on the other hand is one of the most frustrating people I've ever tried to play with. One minute hes acting like he doesnt give 2 shits about the game, then the next hes posting some pretty decent content and flips my read on him upside down. It could just be that I hes posting reads/thoughts that I agree with and that makes me unsure of him, but god damn. I feel like if he just put in a little effort he'd be a massive asset to town.
These two posts from the last page specifically:

i think bbt/tchill are good candidates
Havo should be pushed further
i think fykus has good lines but bad play overall, i think hes probably town whos wrong and scummy

Ignition's vote timing is also so fucking ridiculously scummy for some reasons

For now I'm going to leave my vote here, only because I don't have a stronger read to put it on.

Teech, I'm willing to give you until tomorrow to convince me that you're town, but your lurking (compared to your usual play style of posting a fair bit) is starting to worry me. You said that you WERE busy which implies that you're not anymore, but you're still not posting anymore than before when you presumably were busy.

Piss, teech and cloud I'd like to hear a bit more about your reads if at all possible.

Low effort isn't scum. Could you go over your Cloud read more?

Sweet.

1 more vote.

Why do you not seem to want a claim.

[Virtuoso]

Unofficial Vote Count

pisskop(5/7): lovelife, BlueBloodedToffee, Havo, Robbnva, IgnitionUSMC
Tchill13 (3/7): Hopkirk, pisskop, Backhand
Cloudkicker (1/7): Fykus
Fykus (2/7): Virtuoso, Tchill13
BlueBloodedToffee (1/7): Game Replacement

Not Voting (1): CloudKicker

If I was forced to choose between pisskop and tchill, I'd probably hammer pisskop

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hopkirk, are you town reading the PK slot?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Cool, can you vote PK now then please?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

At the very least force a claim.

[Virtuoso]

Fine. I'll add some pressure

Pisskop please claim or I'm voting you

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Sweet.

[pisskop]

town Doc

[pisskop]

With a qualifier

[Virtuoso]

What's the qualifier