In post 4527, gonkbadoop taskmaster wrote:ok i keep thinking i have the mental fortitude for this but i really dont
btw i didnt realize trans outted the fact he roleswapped which ive been well aware of that since like d1 and wanted to take the bullet but thought the way i handled rb's claim kind of would have made it too obvious that i didnt have a cc so :/ - meaningless but as scum i would probably have shot there and the fact that i was well aware this was occurring should be obvious from my iso
i wanted to take a week long vla and have schadd man the hydra but i dont really want to do that without giving some stance of my own since i havent had the chance to compile my thoughts in a long time. but not having time for mafia also means not having time for real life and i really need to sort myself out rn. idk
i dont really see what was really terrible about the one post i made this dp tbh? im not really going to harp about it though
looking at the playerlist though i feel like we're working with a really tight POE right now - hebi, lycan, gerry, pv, hopkirk, toroginitoh, trans, raybells, vecna, and grapes all seem like really horrible lynches to me at the present so im trying to work from that but every time i read i just feel lost in things like the claims
like? claims alone slysly's role and AP's role dont really make sense to me. with the survivor claim and the masonry i think it makes perfect sense for scum to have some way of figuring out the masonry, and slysly's role cant do that as well as AP's. slysly, from an informed perspective, can basically only find survivors and gets false positives on the roles that scum would actually want to find (traitor, masons, ic i guess?), while ap is basically the opposite in that they can get an actual result on a mason (though it's the same as a survivor neighbor) and having the ninja passive lets them choose between not having to establish fake claims or getting towncred for claiming something unusual. i dont really understand why theres hesitancy to lynch here besides them being prs. i'd vote them rn but schadd thinks it's wasted effort and i guess i can respect that. the best compromise would probably to leash AP onto carcalilly or a future vt claim and work from there - maybe have slysly parity her against someone (not sure if the mechanical play here is to parity vs someone obvtown like transcend or vs someone who needs to be sorted)? i recognize i'm not really in a position to call any shots but im really not happy with where claims are and if im wrong and both ap and slysly are town then that means theres a lot we can get out of playing our cards right as a town.
anyway
VOTE: tpfkap
ive been looking through isos though and i think this is the right call - schadd hasnt gotten back to me though
i think it takes a very specific kind of... bad... to think that the transcend slot is still scum here or even insinuate that kraska/rb could be scum theatre. i dont know if it's me personally knowing the context of that drama but rb has a very strange and disgusting vendetta against kraska and has harassed her offsite - him thinking that kraska was "attacking" him or some shit is flat out wrong and the way he reacted to kraska's obvious counterclaim showed a very specific kind of scum detachment that doesnt make sense in theatre. had i had the chance to talk during d1 about this (irl not mafia reasons prevented me obv) this is what my GR case would have been - rb picking completely incorrect reasons people interact with him they way they have comes from not having the need to actually engage with the gamestate and understand people. this is besides the fact trans and kraska have both been playing to their town metas strongly and both are not very good at hiding their metas from me
tpfkap trying to reach ('doctor is a scum role in this setup') and keep trans in the lynchpool i feel is a scum thought process - most of her pushes as well seem like very obviously not-mafia slots to me. im also having a hard time following some of the reasoning behind the scumreads and how they actually translate to scumreads - like my slot's, for example.
In post 2733, TPFKAP wrote:He manipulated you into claiming your flavor between day 1 and day 20 (a few hours?)
Gonk buddied up to you right away by following your vote on hebi.
Gonk jumped in to defend you against Arcade's meta case.
Gonk continued to defend you and sheeped.
After you had softclaimed twice, suddenly gonk starts praising Arcade.
Then, after you and hebi agreed to a Lycanfire wagon, gonk suggested you flavor claim.
Arcade agreed.
You said no.
Arcade says "dunn here",
and gonk votes for you and shoots smilies at Arcade.
gonk says there is no reason not to claim, and you do.
like im struggling to see how this warrants... any sort of read?
you could argue that my thought process was inconsistent or something (i dont really like the insinuation i defended zach but then attacked him?? i wanted dunn to substantiate his thought process because having played with zach i saw zero reason to make that sort of meta call on him, then zach started to act weird when i asked him to flavor claim so i scumread him...), but that sort of call is never made. instead the scumminess of my slot comes from me pressuring a miller to claim flavor which is???? not scummy? like it's one thing to randomly pressure someone to claim a role but it's fucking flavor - all it does is check the validity of a claim (and kidney didnt make sense to me as a miller). there isnt any follow through to actually substantiate why any of this is scummy. it's surface level thinking.
i dont really care about the pr claim. it's bullshit i've seen from scum plenty of times and have zero qualms pressuring there if the person is going to play like a scumfuck
if schadd disagrees with me then he's free to move my vote but this is where i'm at. PW/spiffeh could also use resolution at some point - i think schadd and i are at odds (i'm liking spiffeh less and have been ok with the last posts in PW's iso) so i'd rather have us converse about that first though.
anyway,
@mods giga head is going to be v/la for like the next week. again i just need to sort myself out and i really dont have the time for mafia anymore and worrying about getting prodded/not contributing enough is starting to affect my mental health. schadd will take over while i try to sort my shit out and get back on my feet again
if raybells or vecna or trans are on in the next half hour or so we can talk, i realize i havent been pulling the weight i know i can and i dont really mind you think i'm scum as a result because my head is not entirely in the game like it has been during all of my scum games on this site besides my first but that's a really shitty tell for me if that's what you're reading into.
pedit:
gerryoat wrote:but carca is prob bad town. now if we could get more bin votes. that would be swell
i've been coming around on carca!town but i dont really have an issue with bins - can you like sparknotes her for me
vote i think
