Mini Normal 1938 [Game Over]

[lovelife]

Agreed.

VOTE: Necro

[lovelife]

Was a hard choice between you and lovelife

I wouldn't have blamed you if you voted for me. lol

[lovelife]

Agreed.

VOTE: Necro

You're not meant to agree.

VOTE: lovelife

I disagree. Agreeing is much better than disagreeing. Agreed?

[lovelife]

Why not?

[lovelife]

Sorry, referring to this

I don't like that Cloudkicker is not putting a vote down yet.

i dont like to rvs

[lovelife]

Isn't the point of RVS to seed interactions? Interactions that give town more information?

[lovelife]

Why wouldn't you want to do that

[lovelife]

I haven't put one down either. Does that bug you also or just cloud?

You said you're away so am assuming you aren't really 'all here' right now.

Cloudkicker is the only player who seems to be getting to page2 and is not trying to sort alignments or build pressure anywhere. To that end:

Vote: Cloudkicker

I can't tell if this is a bait or not. lol

[lovelife]

@necro As Robbnva said, he isn't even on VLA yet. And you didn't even vote, you just bolded the text.

@cloud But what is your reason for not liking RVS? Surely you must admit it has its place, and you participating in RVS would only create more information for town. I'd like to hear Robbvna's opinion on this too since he claims to not like it either.

[lovelife]

First time playing a mafia game here after playing it on other sites.

Hey guys. If you happen to know me, congrats. I have some experience with mafia but I'm still pretty shit at it

VOTE: Jord

This is obviously the play here

I don't like posts like these when there are already some things being brought up worth talking about. Makes me think you don't want to participate in the discussion. The self-vote is especially lacking in content I feel.

VOTE: Tchill13

Scum found.

Care to elaborate?

[lovelife]

Because you're choosing to ignore the ongoing conversations. Why?

[lovelife]

"Posting at night" doesn't mean anything to me. Saying "I didn't have time to read anything yet and I just wanted to make an introductory post" does though.

I still don't like the self-vote, but whatever.

[lovelife]

Hurting town, its p3

lol, my thoughts too

[lovelife]

I think Fykus was joking about skipping past RVS and quicklynching someone, like how you were with your self-vote.

[lovelife]

I would still like a reason for not wanting to RVS @Rob @cloud

Seems to me everywhere I read talks about how RVS is a good idea

[lovelife]

Also typically me not RVS voting usually draws attention to myself and that ends up being more useful than me posting a random vote on somebody.

You're that sure of yourself, are you?

[lovelife]

Because you're choosing to ignore the ongoing conversations. Why?

VOTE: lovelife

Too early for the Bull in the China shop.

What makes you say that? I don't think it's early for that at all.

[lovelife]

Not enough going on for you to comment on anything?

VOTE: CloudKicker

[lovelife]

awful early to be throwing shade.

Why.

[lovelife]

What would you prefer I do, sit around twiddling my thumbs? Also, that still isn't a very concise argument.

[lovelife]

(also, where can I see the setup matrix or whatever)

[lovelife]

I just pointed out that I thought it was early for someone to be getting bothered by you receiving a single vote.
A SINGLE vote.

I actually agree with you here.

[lovelife]

When do we cross the magic threshold when its OK to "throw shade" or be a "bull in a china shop?" How does your ideal Day 1 .

Not before Day 2

My ideal Day 1 is scum says something shady and I call them out and town says Oh hells yeah and we lynch them but only after I peg his buddies by association.

Fixed quote tag

lmao

[lovelife]

Generally I am suspicious of people who seem overly comfortable like Robb and Fykus, however, I think that's just how Fykus plays TBH. Don't know about Robb. I would like to see some real discussion from him about his vote.

[lovelife]

So LL whats your mafia experience

Just the last game we played together, now this one. That's it.

[lovelife]

Generally I am suspicious of people who seem overly comfortable like Robb and Fykus, however, I think that's just how Fykus plays TBH. Don't know about Robb. I would like to see some real discussion from him about his vote.

Why is it suspicious to you?

It makes me think they know who's a threat and who isn't, unlike a real townsperson who has no idea who's going to stab them in the back.

[lovelife]

Just for the record - It was not an insult. Rob and I go way back. He has his own style of playing and he can be wicked good at times. If he's town he's definitely an asset. So i never rush to lynch him. But when he is scum he needs to die like every other scum.

What are you thinking about robb right now, havo? I just played a game with him, and this feels a little less natural to me.

P-Edit: hmmmm ok

I don't have a read on him tbh. I haven't seen anything either way to make me think he's town or scum.

The argument against him ATM is not compelling to me. I see his play so far as normal Rob.

It's not compelling to me either. Honestly, the main person I'm suspicious of is Jord. The only thing that stopped me from changing my vote to him was his claim that he made an introductory post before reading anything, which is, of course, impossible to prove if this is true or false.

[lovelife]

Feigning ignorance is the easiest excuse to make, though, so it didn't really help to lower my suspicions.

[lovelife]

Speaking of tchill, where is he?

Tchill is here. This day 1 seems a little strange. There's not a stupid wagon on someone by page 5.

Not for lack of trying. lol

[lovelife]

I decided to go through Jord's ISO since he is the person I'm most suspicious of.

Hey guys. If you happen to know me, congrats. I have some experience with mafia but I'm still pretty shit at it

VOTE: Jord

This is obviously the play here

I really don't like this post. I've already talked about this, but to me, it feels like Jord was attempting to remain neutral on any debates going on and possibly keep out of any for as long as possible. The self-vote enforces my opinion that Jord wants/wanted to be a third party to the rest of the discussion.

1. I just said I posted that at night
2. It's possible to make introductory posts before you read the thread
3. I'm going off and on irl so I'm not gonna be able to read until later

Those were just introductory posts, and the way you reacted to harmless posts like that does not sit well with me.

Jord claims to have made the previous post without reading anything beforehand, which is an unquantifiable claim for me or anyone else to refute. As I've said previously, feigning ignorance is the easiest defense to make. However, I believe it to be less likely that he made his first post without reading anything, and more likely that he

chose

not to comment on anything already said.

VOTE: jordarrian

If he's town he's hurting town right now and we shouldn't stand for that. If he's scum then I'm willing to work with him, for now, to lynch his scum self.

How exactly am I hurting town? If you seriously mean my self vote then you need to learn about this great thing called a joke

I have time to read up now so I'm doing so.

UNVOTE:

Backs down, but without changing his stance. He wants to end the discussion before reaching a more finalized and concise conclusion.

Scumreading Fykus rn

Cause rvs is boring. Lets wagon someone and end it (inb4 only scum want to wagon peoplre to finish rvs)

Wanting to quickhammer on day 1 and won't participate in the RVS stage to find scum

VOTE: cloud

Sheep vote

I liked your little "argument" for your vote on him so I followed suit.

Admitted to sheeping

Immediately shifts gears off of him and onto Fykus.

VOTE: jord

By wagon someone i didnt mean quick lynch i meant put a few votes on them to get a reaction to end rvs

Ok I misinterpreted that post then mb

UNVOTE:

I still dont like those sheep posts however.

Backs down with little opposition needed to change his mind. Makes me think his push on Fykus wasn't sincere.


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These last upcoming points are, admittedly, a little weak IMO, but still worth mentioning maybe.

neither of those things are good reasons to scum read somebody. I don't think he was serious about the wagoning somebody. Sheep voting certainly isn't scummy and it definitely isn't alignment indicative.

Ironically the exact opposite of your logic was used on you.

Honestly I just can't see how sheep voting is completely NAI.

Next posts are him jumping on the Robb wagon, again taking the path of least resistance.

Just for the record - It was not an insult. Rob and I go way back. He has his own style of playing and he can be wicked good at times. If he's town he's definitely an asset. So i never rush to lynch him. But when he is scum he needs to die like every other scum.

What are you thinking about robb right now, havo? I just played a game with him, and this feels a little less natural to me.

P-Edit: hmmmm ok

I don't have a read on him tbh. I haven't seen anything either way to make me think he's town or scum.

The argument against him ATM is not compelling to me. I see his play so far as normal Rob.

It's not compelling to me either. Honestly, the main person I'm suspicious of is Jord. The only thing that stopped me from changing my vote to him was his claim that he made an introductory post before reading anything, which is, of course, impossible to prove if this is true or false.

He never responds to my comment here, ignoring it to respond to Robb instead. Maybe he was hoping I wouldn't continue pressing him about it since I think I kinda made it seem like I wouldn't.

Ok? I was proven wrong and was waiting for more posts so I can read into them. Is that a problem?

Also before you ask, I'm not reading because again, I am off and on so I can only read a little at a time

Sure this can be considered a response to some of what I've said, but I've already explained how I think the "didn't read" claim is a weak one.

I was going to organize this further with spoiler tags, but I'm lazy. Sorry for the wall

[lovelife]

Lovelife - null leaning scum.That whole push on people for not liking RVS was iffy to me, but I'm reading it as town hunting for reactions. Plus he never responded to my question about comfort lmao. But #183 and #184 seem scummy to me. Just the language he's using - "the only thing that stopped me from changing my vote to him" and "it didn't really help to lower my suspicions" look like scum separating themselves from a partner who's had a bit of focus recently - "I didn't vote for him because of *reason* but I'm still suspicious!"

I haven't read all of your post yet, but I wanted to go ahead and respond to this real quick. I wanted to express my opinions about Jord, but I didn't have time to make a case against him last night, so I just went ahead and wrote down how I felt. I've now made my case against him though.

oh, and before I forget again

VOTE: Jord

[lovelife]

Your jord case is alright, but I'm too suspicious of robb/havo to want to jump on their scumreads.

Hmm, I'll have to look back at their interactions a bit more in depth I guess, as well as the case against Robb, but on the surface I'm in agreement with Havo. The case against Robb just wasn't that compelling to me. However, most of my focus was on Jord, so now that I've organized and recorded my thoughts on him a re-read of the points against Robb is probably a good idea.

[lovelife]

Day killing is a thing?

[lovelife]

(also, where can I see the setup matrix or whatever)

There isnt one. Anyone could be any role considered normal

Doing some re-reading and I realized I forgot to ask my follow up question to this. How many mafia and town power roles are there in the game?

[lovelife]

Spoiler:

Also not to get into setup spec too early or anything but do you think the lack of mafia daychat indicates a mafia encryptor is around?

Impossible to tell really. I think it's a mod preference but refresh my memory. Mafia encryptor would only allow mafia to talk yes? If town had something like masons/neighbors/cults or whatever they wouldn't benefit from that right? Yes I know cults aren't allowed. Just thinking out loud.

Maybe theyre mason

Doubt it

Town would need its own encryptor.

THats what I thought. Thanks

I guess I misread robb's post since I forgot what day it was, but yeah I dislike his reasoning as well. On the site I'm from an unwillingness to participate in RVS gets you lynched pretty quick because mostly only scum have a reason to not like it.

Thst site sucks.

The site I came from is a shit show. Nobod knows what they are doing and we used to lynch people day 1 cause it was "their turn"

These are the things I'm referring to.

So you've made a serious Jordarrian vote, while giving no explanation for it - and all of your posts after the Jordarrian vote haven't had anything to do with reasons you think Jordarrian is scum, but instead talking about unrelated things or just telling people they're not good.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I'm reading.

don't know you or that person but it kind of looks like they were more insulting you than anything.

Well yes he was being insulting cause he and I don't get along. We don't get along cause that's literally how I play.

Most of my games my top scum reads are people who scum read me. Mainly cause the arguments against me are usually BS and I can't see town using such bad reasoning.

Why does it make you angry for people to imply you're scummy

Cause I'm don't ever consider myself scummy. I play as genuine as possible and if somebody thinks that's scummy they are either a poor player or scum.

First quote: so shouldn't you be scumreading right now then? Why aren't you?

Second quote: I see. Town are sometimes righteous but it makes no sense to me why you wouldn't try to cooperate. You haven't really done anything so far to appear all that town, so are you saying I'm a bad player? Or am I scum?

These posts scream tunneling townie to me.

Just for the record - It was not an insult. Rob and I go way back. He has his own style of playing and he can be wicked good at times. If he's town he's definitely an asset. So i never rush to lynch him. But

when

he is scum he needs to die like every other scum.

I don't like how comfortable Havo and Robb are with each other. The use of the word "when" instead of "if" pings me here too. Although, as I learned in my last game, being comfortable with players you've previously played with isn't a scum tell (sorry Fykus, lol).

I don't play to appear town. I don't really care how I look to others.

I don't like this attitude. I just think you should want other townies to think you're town so they won't waste their time arguing against you/tunneling on you.

Your jord case is alright, but I'm too suspicious of robb/havo to want to jump on their scumreads.

Hmm, I'll have to look back at their interactions a bit more in depth I guess, as well as the case against Robb, but on the surface I'm in agreement with Havo. The case against Robb just wasn't that compelling to me. However, most of my focus was on Jord, so now that I've organized and recorded my thoughts on him a re-read of the points against Robb is probably a good idea.

After some re-reading, my opinions are pretty much still the same. I am still more suspicious of Jord than Robb/Havo. I think the main thing I took from all that is Necro is probably town.

[lovelife]

The only people that care about being seen as town are scum lovelife. Town should only have one priority and that is lynching scum. Not looking town.

Well yeah, a townies best play is to just be genuine with their interactions and stuff, but if a lot of players express their suspicion of you due to how you're playing, maybe you should change how you're playing.

[lovelife]

Still no response from Jord after post 238

Not much of a response from anyone, actually. Doesn't anyone share my suspicions about him?

[lovelife]

I wonder if havo's stunt was to draw attention from jord

IDK why you're leaning on Havo about this, you haven't commented much on Jord either...

[lovelife]

neither of those things are good reasons to scum read somebody. I don't think he was serious about the wagoning somebody. Sheep voting certainly isn't scummy and it definitely isn't alignment indicative.

VOTE: jordan

are you high or misremembering?

I was voting jord before I changed to havo, jord was my top scum read and I was pretty much pushing on him before you made your case on him

That's all you've had to say about Jord all game. I don't think this is suspicious on its own (why I didn't really subscribe to necro's push on you), but if you're going to claim you've contributed a lot to the discussion, that's just wrong and IS suspicious.

in fact jordan's last 4 posts were in direct response to me pushing on him

And you seemed fine just leaving where it's at, no direct response from you and no response to my case against him. Why?

[lovelife]

I forgot about those posts, my bad.

[lovelife]

I haven't been as active as normal because I've been helping my mom move for the last 2 days, and I hate using my phone keyboard, but I have been reading everything. I probably would have commented a few times if I wasn't forced to use my phone, but it wouldn't have been anything too important. Necros reads list peaked my interest though and it's why I'm muddling through texting this post. I like it a lot over all, I especially like that it came from necro, who is my strongest town read atm. A reads list from another player might have been more interesting, but necros read list will definitely be a useful tool and I appreciate the effort in making it so in depth. Ill be back home tomorrow, where i plan to type up my own read list, or maybe just a player analysis since I feel a lot of players could be either side atm.

[lovelife]

My read on Pisskop's slot is still mafia and I don't plan on changing my vote anytime soon.

[lovelife]

How are we lazy? Jord looks like mafia to me and you've done nothing to change my opinion on your slot.

[lovelife]

somebody

hammer

me

Why don't you provide a counter argument or something? Like, I understand that from the perspective of a town player, you would be content with being the Day One lynch so we can start analyzing the votes etc. on Day Two, but "just lynch me already" is something I could easily see a scum saying. I think it would be better for town if you actually participated here, at least give us some more information before you die if you think it's inevitable.

i cant fix stupid

sry mod

Am I the only one who is confused by this?

[lovelife]

Town

Virtuoso (necro) - Obvious town play here. I like his reasoning and how in-depth he made his reads list. I especially love the extra sense of paranoia coming from some of his posts, as well as the tunneling. I think often good intentions come from posts like that.

Probably town

Hopkirk
|
Backhand - Active and aren't afraid to voice their opinions. Pretty standard town play I would say, but not as convinced as I am with Virtuoso's slot.

Tchill - Not a whole lot coming from Tchill to be honest, but what is coming from him pretty much lines up with how I feel about the game, which is a good thing from my point of view at least.

Could go either way

Robb
|
Havo - Not a fan of either of these players, but I will need to see more before really forming an opinion here. I think a lot of the interactions they've had have been/are moot.

Fykus - Again, I think it's a matter of his playstyle more than allignment, but I could easily see a scum playing as Fykus has.

BBT - I mean, really not enough has come from him for me to form an opinion. I guess lack of participation is a potential scum tell here maybe.

Suspicious of these players, if not already considering them possible scum

CloudKicker - Attitude has not been good.
IgnitionUSMC - Has not been active and I really don't like post 394 or 485 from him. Apparently has opinions but is doing very little to include the rest of us in the reasoning behind them.

Mafia

pisskop (Jord) - I've said it all already.

Sof - Really hasn't stated his own opinions on much of anything, and what he has said has been without committing to one side or another. Seems more interested in other player's opinions on things instead of providing his own. Really hasn't been that active, and what he has posted has been mostly filler.

[lovelife]

I didn't really order anyone in my reads list outside of the general color coded labels, but if I had I would have put CloudKicker at the bottom of my suspicious list (closer to my meh list/furthest from my mafia list). I'm not really that convinced he is mafia, just suspicious of him.

[lovelife]

Attitude plus there was something specific I can't remember now. I'm too exhausted IRL to go back and find what it was at this moment though.

[lovelife]

Seems like a lot of frustration and general lack of interest in cooperating with anyone. I get the frustration though, but if you are town you gotta realize this isn't a helpful attitude to have (the latter especially).

[lovelife]

The fact that its helpful of not isnt relevant, my play is literraly inherently not a scum agenda because its not sustainable, this is actual t play, im really busy irl and i dont care to gives too much time about this game. Im also shamelessly trying to play a certain way to see if i could pull it off, which is low effort honest play but im still town

lol

Wouldn't saying this skew your little experiment? Honestly this post is a joke.

[lovelife]

Yeah, this act isn't going to change my opinion of you. In fact, it further shows me how little use to town you are. But for now I'd rather use my vote elsewhere.

[lovelife]

Funny you bring that up because I really don't see any of my reads changing until we start getting into vote analysis.

[lovelife]

@pisskop Why the change of heart? Did I convince you to actually try and play the game?


I actually like pisskop more than Jord, but my reads still haven't changed much (as I predicted they wouldn't). I still think something more concrete like a slot flip or a claim will be needed before my mind shifts gears, but so far my overall opinion of pisskop

is

better than of Jord. I'm still not fully ready to change my read on pisskop's slot, though.

[lovelife]

IDK, you seemed pretty content to just lay back and take the lynch, so why are you trying to live now?

[lovelife]

What? You are full of non-sequiturs dude. lol

[lovelife]

lazy, the lot of ya

somebody

hammer

me

i cant fix stupid

sry mod

These quotes, along with the countless troll posts you wrote before these, lead me to believe you didn't really care to play the game, and even possibly wanted to be lynched.

Why did you go from that to actually trying to live.

[lovelife]

What it comes down to is this; You're playing with us. You claim your intentions are pro-town, but that's what I'm not convinced of. Scum could easily do, say, and act the exact same way you have.

Also, you're only really substantial contribution so far has been your push against BBT, but honestly it seems to have more to do with a personal issue between you two than it does to this game.

[lovelife]

I forgot you also are attacking tchill, but I guess I just don't understand the wagon against him.

[lovelife]

I'm not being vague at all, am I?

[lovelife]

Just to be clear nobody thinks a wagon on fykus is a good idea? I'm not crazy about how he took his vote off me then immediately voted someone else. That seemed a little odd. I'd also like to know how I'm scummier than cloud kicker at the moment.

Like I said, I think that's just Fykus' playstyle.

Also, I don't like trying to look at buddies on D1. There are just too many possibilities, and it feels like little more than guess work.

[lovelife]

Like this unhealthy focus on me coming in guns blazing instead of focusing on the intent and motivation of my posts.

What it comes down to is this; You're playing with us. You claim your intentions are pro-town, but that's what I'm not convinced of. Scum could easily do, say, and act the exact same way you have.

[lovelife]

I am voting you.

[lovelife]

So you're saying you have more insight you wish to share? If so, I would love more from you.

[lovelife]

Ive provided a plethora of topics to explore.

You have thus far ignored any significant source of discussion which requires you to expend effort and lay down an opinion we can judge you upon.

Thats kinda scummy bro.

This is just straight up false.

[lovelife]

Do you want to discuss my reads, or any of the questions Ive raised?

Do you wanna talk about CC and his 'omgus vote' instead? his overreactions?
Or what about bbt claiming he'd pursue CC and cut him down for omgusing and then not?

I mean, you arent voting me rn (are you?) and if you are why arent you interested in these specifics?

Nice deflect btw

[lovelife]

Your gripe with me is I haven't explored other topics with you yet? We haven't even gotten past the first one yet. I'm happy to move on to another topic now that I think we've reached the end of this one.

[lovelife]

BTW, I don't think you came out ahead of it.

[lovelife]

Even though it has made me reconsider my opinion on your slot, I really don't want the "too scum to be scum" act to work, so I'm doubling down on my stance that you are scum.

[lovelife]

You're the one shifting the focus of the discussion away from the original one.

[lovelife]

I did go into detail on why you started changing your playstyle. You then shifted the focus and went "look look! look at all these things you haven't asked me about! look how you haven't even gotten to any of the specifics of these things!"

That is not a genuine reaction to me.

[lovelife]

eww.

so body checking an unsorted player who is being unreasonable and stubborn isnot geniune?

yea no. get over yourself

So ALL of our interaction with me was just you testing me? Give me a break.

[lovelife]

*your

[lovelife]

I have flashbacks from all these games where I mislynch people and everyone telling me "why would he do that if he were scum?"

But then I think of boonskiies, RC, and others who do those things as scum.

Let me do my reread before I vote seriously

UNVOTE:

Wait wait wait, you were willing to have him lynched, but you weren't serious about it?

[lovelife]

I have flashbacks from all these games where I mislynch people and everyone telling me "why would he do that if he were scum?"

But then I think of boonskiies, RC, and others who do those things as scum.

Let me do my reread before I vote seriously

UNVOTE:

Wait wait wait, you were willing to have him lynched, but you weren't serious about it?

Read the post right above yours.

Okay, but why did it take you til now to unvote if that's how you feel? IF that is how you feel, because your previous actions could have fooled me.

[lovelife]

Pisskop actually faked Doc claim and he's still alive.

Cloud kicker has been a joke and he's still alive.

There's some terrabad town players in this game.

Or scum too afraid to hop on the wagon.

[lovelife]

Robb isn't even voting yet

[lovelife]

I don't understand why you guys think Fykus is scum. Sure he could be, but why do you think he is?

[lovelife]

I'm not sure of my reads atm, I need to go back and reassess after the pisskop flip. Right now the main person I still scumread is Game Replacement because he occupies the same slot as sof. Sof seemed to be doing nothing but busy work and GR hasn't done anything to change my mind about his slot.

Rough list of most suspicious to least is GR, ignition, fykus/robb/havo, coudkicker. I could go into detail, but my previous post with my reads list is still pretty close to how I feel now. Maybe this will change after some reassessing. I know a lot of people are suspicious of BBT, but I guess I don't really get the case made against him either.

VOTE: Game Replacement

[lovelife]

I'm very surprised by how fast Fykus got to L-1 though. Does that seem odd to anyone else? Am I really just missing something that obvious about Fykus?

[lovelife]

VOTE: Fykus

I can do this.

Wait yeah... this post was really awful. He didn't even announce L-1 or give any reasoning at all.

[lovelife]

Is Vig one-shot?

[lovelife]

If Vig is one-shot they should definitely claim today. Their only ability in the game now is to be as pro-town in their play as possible, which includes claiming IMO.

[lovelife]

Yeah but tonight's kill could also land on another PR that hasn't used their power yet. Plus a confirmed town slot would do a lot of work for us to figure things out, both for today and for future days.

[lovelife]

The problem is if we only have one or two PRs, outting one right now might help us today but it could also give the scum what they need to kill our PRs off and win the game.

Yes, if the Vig still has his night ability he shouldn't out himself.

[lovelife]

i dont really understand nor like how the table shifted on my slot, seems like im not even being shaded anymore, feels like im hard townreading scum

You mean how you've been annoying to interact with, so now people just aren't interacting with you anymore? lol

[lovelife]

VOTE: IgnitionUSMC

[lovelife]

He's either scum or a liability. He's done little to help town and is just sheeping from one vote to another. Players like that, even if they are town, are usually easily manipulated by scum.

[lovelife]

I figured I'd just explain myself on Day 3, I probably should have written what I just did in my hammer post though, that was bad of me.

[lovelife]

I understand now why people don't like BBT, but I don't think he's mafia. I'm starting to come around to Cloudkicker, too.

[lovelife]

Vig game replacement so I don't have to work so hard convincing everyone to lynch him tomorrow.

[lovelife]

Busy with life and this game fell through the cracks. I don't have work or school today, but I have a lot of homework and chores to do so I probably won't post again until this evening. Maybe I'll squeeze in some activity before then though.

I'm VT, sorry that doesn't help anything.

My scum team read is GR, Rob, and Fykus. I had Havo instead of Fykus on that list pre-flip, but now post-flip this is the only team that makes sense to me. I felt very strongly that Fykus and Havo were scum and PR, I just had them mixed up I guess.

I will say I stand by my Ignition vote. I wasn't 100% sure he was scum (although I was fairly convinced he was), but his play was bad regardless and I am not sad to see him gone.

So scum NK'd Virtuoso and Backhand. Virtuoso is an interesting one for me since I scumread him, but maybe that wasn't a popular opinion? Has anyone tried analyzing why scum killed who they did?

VOTE: GameReplacement

I'm a little depressed because I had a good case laid out against GR in my head, but I forgot what exactly it was, and now I need to do more work to jog my memory with re-reading and stuff. Basically, Sof was carefully staying on the fence and not committing to a read on anyone and GR has also played similarly. It wasn't until Day 3 that I really saw him starting to take a stand and pressure anyone. I actually do remember one specific example of something I found scummy though. 794 This post doesn't and shouldn't be coming from someone who was playing like he has. "I have the game solved", meanwhile is half-assing their participation in the game. Also, for someone who was attacking Robb for his lack of reasoning in voting for pisskop (which, btw, seemed like a disingenuous way to try and distance himself from Robb), GR is sorely lacking any real reason for scumreading BBT, other than that everyone else thought BBT was scum. I'd bet money GR can't come up with a good reason for scumreading BBT that someone else hasn't already pointed out before him.

[lovelife]

I know he's been more "town" as of Day 3, but to me that only tells me he's been holding back on previous days (something I had the feeling about even before Day 3), which does not bode well with me.

[lovelife]

but I forgot what exactly it was

Okay.
We gucci to vote?

What a joke, honestly

[lovelife]

More half-assing

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[lovelife]

Town don't come in late and drop a vote on someone with a gunsmith result on them. They vote the gun smith if they think it's a lie.
You made it too easy.

I actually skimmed past Fykus' gunsmith claim, but it doesn't really change anything for me. You're both scum so of course he's going to have your back. Also, why exactly does voting make me scum? Plenty of others have voted today.

Maybe leaving my vote up is a mistake though, you might be right about that actually. I'll leave it up for now though as I'm still going to be on my computer for a while.

[lovelife]

Busy with life and this game fell through the cracks. I don't have work or school today, but I have a lot of homework and chores to do so I probably won't post again until this evening. Maybe I'll squeeze in some activity before then though.

I'm VT, sorry that doesn't help anything.

My scum team read is GR, Rob, and Fykus. I had Havo instead of Fykus on that list pre-flip, but now post-flip this is the only team that makes sense to me. I felt very strongly that Fykus and Havo were scum and PR, I just had them mixed up I guess.

I will say I stand by my Ignition vote. I wasn't 100% sure he was scum (although I was fairly convinced he was), but his play was bad regardless and I am not sad to see him gone.

So scum NK'd Virtuoso and Backhand. Virtuoso is an interesting one for me since I scumread him, but maybe that wasn't a popular opinion? Has anyone tried analyzing why scum killed who they did?

VOTE: GameReplacement

I'm a little depressed because I had a good case laid out against GR in my head, but I forgot what exactly it was, and now I need to do more work to jog my memory with re-reading and stuff. Basically, Sof was carefully staying on the fence and not committing to a read on anyone and GR has also played similarly. It wasn't until Day 3 that I really saw him starting to take a stand and pressure anyone. I actually do remember one specific example of something I found scummy though. 794 This post doesn't and shouldn't be coming from someone who was playing like he has. "I have the game solved", meanwhile is half-assing their participation in the game. Also, for someone who was attacking Robb for his lack of reasoning in voting for pisskop (which, btw, seemed like a disingenuous way to try and distance himself from Robb), GR is sorely lacking any real reason for scumreading BBT, other than that everyone else thought BBT was scum. I'd bet money GR can't come up with a good reason for scumreading BBT that someone else hasn't already pointed out before him.

for the record voting outside a cross is close to a scumclaim

IDK what this means.

[lovelife]

GR is just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks so far for Day 3.

[lovelife]

I still don't understand. Lynching Fykus would obviously be a good thing from my pov, but I think lynching GR is more difficult and I want to lay down the groundwork for it ASAP.

[lovelife]

Yeah.. that makes sense. I guess it just comes down to working together more than anything else. I'll unvote for now and come back later probably to vote for Fykus.

UNVOTE: GR

[lovelife]

Fykus does nothing all game, claims a PR Day 3 and everyone believes him.

lol

[lovelife]

Whatever. If we lose it's my own fault for procrastinating the reading needed for this game. Also, the real reason I didn't vote the last two days was that I was feeling really down and whenever I thought about saying something on here I would just get anxious and put it off.

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didn't participate*