Normal 1934: Civilization Mafia Mafia (Endgame)
-
-
Korts Luddite
- Luddite
- Luddite
- Posts: 5752
- Joined: January 1, 2008
- Location: HUN BUD
You know what guys, I'm not gonna reread the entire thing again, because this is a chore that I am just not enjoying. I have so many chores already, I just want this game to be a game to me. I'm gonna lay out my thoughts off the top of my head, see if that does anything for me.
First off, I want to apologize for my activity so far on Day 2. The Vecna flip threw me off completely, and I was desperately looking for something to grab onto. I latched onto Tchill for an anti-town gesture without any consideration of the scum motivation, which got rightly called out, and threw me off again. Robb antagonizing me was a good trigger to get me back into the game, but it wasn't scumhunting, it was butting heads, and that leads nowhere either.
So here's where I am.
To answer your question first, monkey, I think Ginggie is fucking around, posting a lot but investing little effort, and I really don't think his D3 IC claim makes any sort of sense (although who am I to know what kind of roles can be found floating around these days). At the very least, the claim is verifiable simply by waiting until tomorrow; one thought I had was that he is a Survivor-type deal, or like a Traitor that joins the mafia after D3 maybe? We'll see.
I really dislike the way Robb has been playing, but I think that's just his personality poisoning his game. He is tunneling, OMGUSing, extremely defensive and bitterly argumentative, and I consider none of that a scumtell at this point. Robb, I think you need to seek therapy instead of channeling your frustration into mafia, because you're ruining the game for everyone else.
Based just on Robb's role in Eddie's play, I also can't think of Eddie in terms of alignment, only as the frustrated recipient of Robb's energies. That this turned into genuine suspicion on Eddie's part, I can personally understand. I'm really curious to see how Game Replacement will hold up in that slot.
At this point I'm inclined to believe Tchill's claims, but he absolutely has to confirm himself next night. Grendel has been a blind spot for me so far, and if I wasn't so sick of rereads right now, I'd promise one - does anyone have anything on him?
monkey I go back and forth on. I honestly think that his early game play was suspicious, but he's been on good behavior since our butting of heads. Again, I'm not going to go back looking for anything anymore, but I have my eyes on him.
I still think Dark Horse is making the most sense out of anyone; nancy's trying to sort but is obviously disengaged, which I can understand with the game having been how it has; massive is is proactive; and I liked though I was uncomfortable with some of what Sunlit Diamond had to say, I have to say I liked Gamma's catch-up. (As an aside, it just occurred to me that Emerald replaced Diamond. Ha!)
So there you have it. At this point, the only vote I'm comfortable with:
VOTE: Assembler
I know he just replaced out, but come on.scumchat never die-
-
Robbnva Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7927
- Joined: July 10, 2010
- Location: Gambrills, MD
having had mental issues in the past this is completely uncalled for. Even if I didn't it is still out of bounds to suggest somebody needs therapy.In post 1100, Korts wrote:Robb, I think you need to seek therapy instead of channeling your frustration into mafia, because you're ruining the game for everyone else.
go fuck yourself
mod please replace korts or me. I can no longer play with him.
I am also reporting you. It doesn't matter if you didn't know about my past, this is a personal non game related attack at me.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
-
Tchill13 Survivor
-
-
Robbnva Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7927
- Joined: July 10, 2010
- Location: Gambrills, MD
-
-
RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
- Smooth Criminal
- Smooth Criminal
- Posts: 70855
- Joined: February 24, 2013
- Pronoun: He/him
-
-
Game Replacement Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 855
- Joined: July 25, 2017
Give me 2 day vigs.In post 1104, RadiantCowbells wrote:Titus replaces Assemblerotws.
Still deciding what I want to do here.
I'll solve the problems for you.-
-
RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
- Smooth Criminal
- Smooth Criminal
- Posts: 70855
- Joined: February 24, 2013
- Pronoun: He/him
-
-
humaneatingmonkey
-
-
Ginngie Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7749
- Joined: April 1, 2017
-
-
RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
- Smooth Criminal
- Smooth Criminal
- Posts: 70855
- Joined: February 24, 2013
- Pronoun: He/him
-
-
Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69109
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
VOTE: Korts
Goodbye. I looked over your post and your confession doesn't actually improve my read on you, plus that attack on Robb was just gross.
Although I do like the emerald replacing diamond note as a "haha cool thing" moment.
I think a lot of that post is pocketing btw, look at how many townreads he has.<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”-
-
Dark Horse Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 616
- Joined: October 22, 2010
- Location: ballin
Haven't read previous pages but korts I'm saying that monkey (who you think has been on good behavior), massive (who you say is proactive) and you are scum, and I've never advocated for an assembler lynch outside of being super close to the deadline. How am I making the most sense from your pov? Your reads seem very different-
-
Korts Luddite
- Luddite
- Luddite
- Posts: 5752
- Joined: January 1, 2008
- Location: HUN BUD
I did not mean to attack Robb. It was insensitive of me to suggest therapy, but I stand by my position that his state of mind was not healthy or helpful in this game.
Dark Horse: I mean that I find your positions and interactions reasonable, not that I necessarily agree with everything. I don't have any solid argument to disprove your case on me, just the knowledge of my alignment, and since as far as I can tell, most of your case on monkey and massive depends on their connection to me, I don't see that either. Nevertheless, I understand where every post you make comes from.scumchat never die-
-
Korts Luddite
- Luddite
- Luddite
- Posts: 5752
- Joined: January 1, 2008
- Location: HUN BUD
You have been voting me since the moment you were caught up. Since then, this is the second time you made it look like you were adding your vote to my wagon. Are you trying to create the illusion of momentum?
I have not made any townread declarations in that post.I think a lot of that post is pocketing btw, look at how many townreads he has.scumchat never die-
-
nancy Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9299
- Joined: December 26, 2016
- Location: lesbian heaven
Will try to make some proper time for this game soon.
@Gamma still waiting on pretty much any meaningful response from you on your scumreads / reads in general; re 1023 townreading Tchill for some of the reads that he's made isn't something that I can make sense of without elaboration - would definitely like you to talk about what you mean there / which reads specifically you think he's had that he wouldn't have had as scum here; think that if you genuinely want to guide people to your reads then the way to do is going to be to talk about why / your reasoning - expecting people to just sheep your read because it's something you're saying they should believe in isn't going to get you very far at all in the best of circumstances.
Eddie read in particular is something that I'm struggling to see from you right now on top of what I've already brought up with you; don't understand at all how you go from having Eddie as a townread and telling Robb that his scumread there is wrong / Eddie's effort was town in 953 (really not understanding what "don't have the details for that yet" means there, please explain that) to saying that you wouldn't be upset if Eddie was vigged and that you can't recall anything from him that's pro-town in 1064, as well as what feels like a ton of dissonance in the sequence around 972/979 overall - not really finding your response to monkey in 1097 on that point particuarly sensible when the question there is about the stance of being open to lynch Eddie despite having stated pretty strongly (?) that you felt the slot was town, not your interaction with Robbnva - feels a little like a dodge from you there and your progression on the slot overall has been pretty troubling + haven't even heard what your reasoning for the townread was in the first place or what changed that; really need you to start being clear on your process there at this point please.
hi meet my mafiascum gravestone, the flowers were probably left by camn or schadd or Prism, blow them kisses for me would you?-
-
Grendel Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2113
- Joined: March 15, 2016
@Gamma
Since when have you town read me enough to hard defend me like this?In post 999, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I'm gonna stop you there. I know Grendel and I'm fairly certain he's town. Plus if I'm remembering right your reason for scumreading Kaboose may have been poor.In post 997, massive wrote:Grendel is Kaboose and I was happy voting Kaboose yesterday. Maybe a little dig into Grendel is in order.
You hold some degree of suspicion towards me even when you town read me when you are town. Like, you think I'm town vs this game where you talk like you know I'm town.
Its gets even weirder since I'm explicitly not among your strong town reads.
Speaking of which, you never got around to better verbalizing your monkey town read did you?
-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-
@These twoIn post 996, Ginngie wrote:So what if Rob is actually right on Eddie?
It really just sounds like a great way to discredit a person, I mean I haven't been reading but skimmin but for real, saying "dont listen he's just toxic" sounds like a great way to not address actual concerns.
tbh I was expecting to come back to several pages of Rob rehashing the same points on eddie to the same audience. Ultimately leading to nothing getting done. Which was why I was discouraging any more Rob poking at that point. Like focusing in on one player (voice, vote, everything), while controlling discussion can be very anti-town. It turned out that he did make/address new points regarding several players so I was wroung there.In post 997, massive wrote:Grendel is Kaboose and I was happy voting Kaboose yesterday. Maybe a little dig into Grendel is in order.
-/-/-/-/-/-
@Monkey
Speaking generally Rob catches a player in a lie early in the game and pushes that their scum until dead, or being mechanically proven otherwise. Which means that it all circles back to that initial interaction between Rob and the other player. No matter what Rob says down down the road I know that certain reads Rob gets early D1 are basically "set", and he'll observe the game from that perspective regardless what others say or do.In post 1078, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
#993
"Because operating under the premise that town wouldn't lie is utterly obtuse."
Grendel, why do you assume that it's Robb's reason for tunnelling Eddie?
Spoiler:
Town!Rob could very well have caught scum with their pants down at the start of the game, but I'm not convinced that is the case here.but why?
V/LA most Sundays.-
-
Grendel Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2113
- Joined: March 15, 2016
@Gamma
Does Monkey remind you of my play in newbi 1734? Maybe even a tad?
@Massive
Are you town reading Gamma/Sunlit?
@Korts
Whats you read on Monkey Currently?
You said that Massive is being too proactive to lynch today, why does pro-active mean town?
Are you scum reading Assemble, or is this PL?but why?
V/LA most Sundays.-
-
Grendel Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2113
- Joined: March 15, 2016
-
-
Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69109
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
-
-
Grendel Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2113
- Joined: March 15, 2016
-
-
RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
- Smooth Criminal
- Smooth Criminal
- Posts: 70855
- Joined: February 24, 2013
- Pronoun: He/him
-
-
RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
- Smooth Criminal
- Smooth Criminal
- Posts: 70855
- Joined: February 24, 2013
- Pronoun: He/him
-
-
Ginngie Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7749
- Joined: April 1, 2017
-
-
Ginngie Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7749
- Joined: April 1, 2017
-
-
Ginngie Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7749
- Joined: April 1, 2017
I CAN LYNCH TITUS
HEY GIRL, LOVE YOU, YOU'RE SCUM THO <3
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDShoutout to PJ and Nahdia for making my amazing new avi :)
Following the previous dozen pages that cropped up in the last 10 hours I would like to congratulate Ginngie for being drunk with distinction. - Vi
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
-