Mini 1942 - Switchboard 2 [Game Over]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I was also only shot in that game by Sly and I can post PMs if he doesn't mine because he was pissed at me for something in a game that was ongoing game at the time.

[Radical Rat]

I was universal scum in Rad Idea.

While I honestly don't remember that game clearly enough to recall if I knew you were scum or not at the time of the quote, it would not have been a good idea for me to say I was scumreading you if I actually were.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It was multi-ball. You can also reread it.

I don't recall you suspecting me in Amensic either and you only voted for me based on Maria's shit.

[Radical Rat]

But my point isn't that you're bad at scum. I don't think you are.

It's just that you aren't perfect. Everyone makes mistakes as any alignment

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yes. However this mistake I'm being accused of seems very rookie like to me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

At this point I kinda just want more people to weigh in on this. I'm worried that you both actually might be town and scum are just letting this play out.

[Radical Rat]

Yeah, it was multiball and I was on literally every scumteam.

Regarding Amnesiac, it was your reaction to Maria that made me scumread you, not Maria herself.

[Radical Rat]

At this point I kinda just want more people to weigh in on this. I'm worried that you both actually might be town and scum are just letting this play out.

Fair enough.
While I have you here though, can I get your thoughts on the Realeo shenanigans?

[Nosferatu]

I was also scum in Rad and you town read me. Don't give me shit about my scum game. I don't make mistakes and I don't get suspected unless I have bad partners.

wew lad

[Nosferatu]

I was also only shot in that game by Sly and I can post PMs if he doesn't mine because he was pissed at me for something in a game that was ongoing game at the time.

tfw I know exactly what he was mad about

[Flubbernugget]

1) I'm voting for aubrey
2) My reasons actually make sense

I don't even know why you're voting Aubrey.

Spoiler: why I'm voting aubrey (and why you should too!!)

Aubrey getting caught making a stupid play and then going "i need to post less cuz site meta" is scummy as hell

Massive town points for radical rat here

WILL UZI GET REVENGE FOR HIS GIRLFRIENDS MURDER!? WILL AUBREY EVER LEAVE NOSFERATU ALONE!? AND WILL ALLO EVER TELL US WHAT HE IS THINKING?!
TUNE IN NEXT TIME FOR

MAFIA: LIFE, LOVE, & DEATH!

Why do you only have time for posts like these and defending yourself from luv?

Just to set the record straight, I raised my eyebrow at Realeo vocally saying "

I'ma lurk cause I want to watch this Uzi vs. Aub play out

"

It's one of those, "

why say this?

" moments. You can push your own agendas, and silently watch the debate play out while taking mental notes.

Are you seriously criticizing someone for being transparent with their thoughts

Every time I make a call out on aubrey, its because they want to position themselves to takes stances in the least offensive ways possible, or give themselves the chance to do so. Aubrey also seems very adamant about making me sure this is not the case whenever I say something.

Notice the attempt to deflect from this issue in 1085

Bonus points for pushing the allo wagon

[Nosferatu]

what you're quoting and what you're saying look pretty different ngl

[Nosferatu]

LUV looks really bad with these condradictions, but scum!LUV in my experience doesn't really crack under scumreads like that.

[Aubrey]

Notice the attempt to deflect from this issue in 1085

LOL, deflect. Those were basically the reasons you were voting me,

minus the last one for kicks

, up to that point. Please, someone look back and tell me those were not his reasons. The word deflect and misrep are so over used that I don't think people even fully understand what they mean anymore.

Aubrey also seems very adamant about making me sure this is not the case whenever I say something.

"

He defended himself,

"

(as one should)

"

So he is trying super hard to persuade me he is town and only scum would do that!

" K. Everybody, barely. try. to defend. yourself. You're scum if you put anything above minimum effort forward.

For the record, you and Uzi are lost causes in persuading in my opinion. I'll have to naturally do something, or something will naturally have to happen, for you two to correct your read on me. Me trying to reason with the both of you isn't going to work. I only defend myself now, so that others don't fail to read me as you two are.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

At this point I kinda just want more people to weigh in on this. I'm worried that you both actually might be town and scum are just letting this play out.

Fair enough.
While I have you here though, can I get your thoughts on the Realeo shenanigans?

Looked like noise. Might read it later.

[Keychain]

Don't give me shit about my scum game. I don't make mistakes and I don't get suspected

unless I have bad partners.

Please don't.

Also.

This doesn't remove the possibility of you being scum with "bad partners".

Also.

Yes. However this mistake I'm being accused of seems very rookie like to me.

Assuming town was notified of your replace-in is a pretty rookie mistake that you definitely made, yes.

That is the mistake I'm talking about and it's not a question of whether you made it or not. It's a question of whether you made it as scum or town.
It turned what would have been a reasonable strategy as scum by taking control of the conversation into a blunder. If we had been notified, I wouldn't have considered it a mistake.
I don't believe that you don't make mistakes as scum.

Happy birthday Fitz, whenever it hits in your timezone. I'd also like to point out that my government has set our election for the day the world is supposed to end, which I find hilarious.

Why thank you. And yes...that is an amusing association between the end of the world and a government's election day (which country?).

New Zealand. I'm sure I can make some political joke about the end of the world considering we have a potential kingmaker scenario but... I don't think anyone will get it

You do realise Fish was replaced during Day 1? How do you not have a read on Flubber?

Flubber...Former...Former...Flubber. Vacation induced oversight. Thanks. Because he has not stood out in my reads and I haven't ISO'd him. He's not in my top three atm so no rush to sort. Fish was probably 51% scum iirc in my mind. Not enough to officially suspect and Flubber hasn't moved that needle.

So Nosferatu, Realeo and LUV are all more than 51% scum? They went from townleans to jumping someone you considered more likely to be scum than town?

In addition, why didn't you mention this 51% thing when you said you had 0 suspects?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Well I know I'm town and I don't think aruging about this will do us any good.

[Flubbernugget]

If your refutation to a case nothing more than a restatement of it, yeah, it's probably a misrepresentation.

[Flubbernugget]

Also, there's a difference between defending yourself to understand another player's point of view, and defending yourself just to make noise

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Obviously from my POV, I don't see how one could think I'd make that mistake as scum. I tried to see it from Key and Rat's POV but it requires me to think of myself as not calculated and razor sharp as scum and I just can't do that.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Ultimately I think someone assuming town was notified overnight isn't AI but I think bringing it up after having 2+ days of discussion with 2 other people definitely is and I just don't see how anyone can think scum would be that careless. I get it though and is what is at this point.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Without reading Realeo vs. Fitz here I still think he's a mislynch.

[Aubrey]

Notice the attempt to deflect from this issue in 1085

By all means; take your points you brought up against me, and compare them side by side to ones I wrote. The general points I brought up are the same damn things you've brought up.

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Spoiler:

Me: I made a silly post with a gif and basically use it to ask Allo what's up
you: "Is this all you have time for"

me: I Question Realeo's actions
you: Are you REALLY questioning someone who is being transparent!?

me: say we are in vote limbo, make a case against flub
You: I'm supposedly grasping for scum reads

we: have a back and forth that ends with, I bore you because I don't like how your reads are generated.

- I post silly shit from time to time.
- I slighted Realeo for apparently being transparent, so I must be scum after his town read. (though nothing is being said about the current reads on realeo)
- something about how I can't generate a proper scum read.

- oh, and I bore him.

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SO, how the F am I deflecting you in post 1085? Like, I'm kinda pissed you made me waste my time to even cover this. What are the damn points you feel I've deflected on?

If your refutation to a case nothing more than a restatement of it, yeah, it's probably a misrepresentation.

That's my whole refutation? K. I assume you're talking about this singular bottom quote

"He defended himself," (as one should) "So he is trying super hard to persuade me he is town and only scum would do that!

Tell me though. Isn't this basically the same exact retelling of your point located below?

Aubrey also seems very adamant about making me sure this is not the case whenever I say something.

All I really added to my retelling was that it is natural to defend cases against you, and that I don't believe this is really a scummy point one should entertain with the "

only scum would do that

". Why wouldn't a town player adamantly push back against accusations thrown their way? This really isn't a misrep as much as you are crying out for it to be seen as. Do I seriously need to be dry, bland, and boring as hell in order to get my points across all the time?

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Also, there's a difference between defending yourself to understand another player's point of view, and defending yourself just to make noise

This could be reversed and be you constantly pushing a shitty case in order to make noise. "

There's a big difference between pushing a player to understand them, and pushing them to make noise.

" Like give me a break. You throw out a case against me, you get a response. MAFIA BASIC 101. You're not gonna talk shit, and not expect me to come back at it.

[Nosferatu]

I'm more concerned with the fact that his quotes and the caption literally have nothing to do with each other

[Realeo]

Does any of us has to advocate for Aubrey for world peace before we have Shouting Person II?