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[Mulch]

Alright Tor emoitions aside, can you explain how you are going from me lock scum to not in the PoE, you unvoting Skitter, and the 20 points before?

[Fykus]

I don't see a need to lynch in an essentially inactive slot today. Yeah she was on a townlynch d1, but so were six others. And Maria wasn't a bad lynch, given her lack of effort. Surely in that 1900+ posts you can find someone better? You were red hot for Skitter not so long ago ...

I am pushing Skitter as much as Misere, more I would dare suggest, and Mulch just claimed I was tunneled on her - so I have no idea what you're even suggesting here that I'm not already doing.
Also, the fact that it is Day 2 and I can't describe a *single* valid stance from either Misere or BBT off the top of my head I think that, in and of itself, is highly valid grounds to lynch them because if they're scum, grand, and if they're town we don't want them at mylo since they'll always be a slot we should get dead.

Did our claimed Gunsmith check one of them? Meh, now I need to actually iso him for that claim.

But the argument against lynching them is super empty - that they have done nothing but basically empty vote isn't a town tell, that makes them a valid lynch whether or not they are low posters, and frankly I suggest low posters are more valid for that case.

I don't mind if we do lynch misere. I just think we can do better than that after putting all this effort in. It seems lazy. And Toranaga likes it.

So that makes you a scum read of yourself, right?

@Fykus - I know, you're lying because you missed me saying I saw that info in one of my posts

It's okay because I'm tunneling Misere, Skitter, and BBT.

@Virtuoso - please and thank you, we would all love to see one I suspect.

[Fykus]

VOTE: skitter

[Mulch]

@Fykus - I know, you're lying because you missed me saying I saw that info in one of my posts

What does this mean

[Mulch]

Fykus what were you just bolding

[humaneatingmonkey]

You guys already know my role. This was an incredibly bad decision to massclaim lol

It's not. If the claims are true, here's what's gonna happen:

N2
Fykus
N3
Toranaga
N4
Mulch/WhyMafia
N5
Mulch/WhyMafia

Every kill decisions have been claimed. However, if the claims are not true, we will see it once we get a better picture of the roles of the other people. Massclaim is necessary now. It was stupid back when few have claimed. Now, it's necessary.

[Virtuoso]

VC 2.14

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Lynching

skitter30

(4): Thor665, Sergtacos, Chip Butty, Fykus

Chip Butty

(2): BlueBloodedToffee, skitter30

Toranaga

(1): Mulch

Fykus

(1): WhyMafia

Misère

(1): Toranaga

Not Voting

(2): Misère, humaneatingmonkey

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

The day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2017-10-04 11:52:50)

Mod Notes

: Keep it fun! Please let me know if I mess up. The automatic vote counter doesn't work

Misère and BBT are being replaced.

[Mulch]

You guys already know my role. This was an incredibly bad decision to massclaim lol

It's not. If the claims are true, here's what's gonna happen:

N2
Fykus
N3
Toranaga
N4
Mulch/WhyMafia
N5
Mulch/WhyMafia

Every kill decisions have been claimed. However, if the claims are not true, we will see it once we get a better picture of the roles of the other people. Massclaim is necessary now. It was stupid back when few have claimed. Now, it's necessary.

Toranga is scum... they aren't getting nightkilled.

[Mulch]

Does anyone understand what Fykus just bolded or what Thor means "I know your lying"?

[Mulch]

@Fykus - I know, you're lying because you missed me saying I saw that info in one of my posts

What does this mean

I'm trying to process it and these words don't make sense

[Mulch]

Pretty good.

UNVOTE: skitter

Why are you voting Skitter after this?

[Mulch]

Why isn't Tor voting Skitter?

[Mulch]

I'm the only person on scum!Tor right now

[skitter30]

Scum reads and claim please skitter

VT

Chip, Mulch, you, and Tor.

Chip seems to be pushing narratives that suit him that do not always align with the facts or what actually happened.

Mulch is pushing opportunistic lynches.

You I'm finding kinda difficult to read since you don't really post what you're thinking so much and are just blending along with the crowd and taking generally popular opinions and using them to push people.

Tor looks kinda bad after the self-vote/Mulch thing/vastly changing of reads thing.

The last three of you also have PR claims though, which I don't think we should be resolving through a lynch today though. If someone dies overnight, it will enable us to narrow down the rest of you.

Skitter ignored me again - rather unimpressed by that, especially after my last post about her was specifically about said ignoring.
I'm literally still her biggest pusher and she's pretending like I'm not here and has no read on me.
That's weird any way you cut it, and makes me want to flip her just on general principal that she is proving that she is hard skimming the game but isn't being honest about it.

Skitter had me as middle of the road/nullish read - I'm hardly a small poster, I have lots of content to analyze, Skitter never iso-ed me at all in the wall, and I'm the biggest Skitter attacker, so you wouldn't think I'd be totally forgotten even considering that while iso-ing other people you'd at least see them debating with me about Skitter.

I'm assuming you mean this.

I don't really know what you want me to say about you. Most of your ISO consists of pushing for my lynch, and the last time I tried to talk to you about it, we ended up getting in a thing that just kinda went around in circles and got slightly abrasive. You think I'm scum. I don't know how else to show you I'm not.

I also didn't ISO people there, so no, I didn't deliberately ignore you. That wall was based on reading the thread where I was v/la, and you said like nothing of import in that time. You still want to lynch me, you still don't like BBT, you're still willing to compromise on misere, and you somehow still think Chip is town. Nothing new. Nothing changed. You didn't say anything that left a significant impression on me.

and I don't see how you could have done that willingly and thought that's advance town's wincon. you ignored that part in your response.

No, I didn't, as I thought it was implied: I thought he was scum. Lynching scum advances town's wincon kinda by definition.

[Mulch]

Mulch is pushing opportunistic lynches.

What opportunistic lynches? How is pushing on your scumread opportunistic?

[Mulch]

That dosen't make sense

[skitter30]

I'm talking about misere. I think you're going after a slot that's basically null on shaky reasoning when they aren't around to defend themselves.

[Mulch]

I'm talking about misere. I think you're going after a slot that's basically null on shaky reasoning when they aren't around to defend themselves.

What's shaky about my reasoning?

[skitter30]

I don't know how to read you so you're kinda nullscum by default.

I know you've quoted that like four times, but I still don't get why you think misere is scummy.

I don't think 'trying to pocket you' is a valid reason. I also don't see them trying to do that. Given misere's low votecount/content, I think their Maria trajectory kinda makes sense. They'd been scumreading her since like 115, so I don't havea problem with 788. I don't get why you don't like about 641.

So I don't get why you're so confident about them flipping scum. I don't get why you're soft-defending Fykus. Some of your posts ping me the wrong way like 1068.

Misere has like six posts, but I leaning towards liking the ones that they have.

[Mulch]

Why don't you think trying to pocket me is scum indicative? Why did you gloss over the other bad part of their post, that it was all shallow thoughts? Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?

[Mulch]

"So I don't get why you're so confident about them flipping scum"

You don't need to have 100 posts to be confident. Those 2 posts sucked

[Mulch]

Why don't you think trying to pocket me is scum indicative? Why did you gloss over the other bad part of their post, that it was all shallow thoughts? Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?

What do you disagree with me about in regards to them pocketing me? They complimented me in every post

[skitter30]

God you type fast.

You were deliberately trying to pocket me in Apartment where you were town. I don't see why you think that pocketing is necessarily scum indicative here.

[Mulch]

God you type fast.

You were deliberately trying to pocket me in Apartment where you were town. I don't see why you think that pocketing is necessarily scum indicative here.

I thought you said you disagreed with them pocketing me in the first place? Now you think that they WERE pocketing me but it wasn't scum indicative?


Pocketing could be town oriented. But most of the time it isn't.

[skitter30]

I don't think their thoughts were shallow. I actually really liked their thought processes. I especially liked 95 and 648.