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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:39 pm

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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 2019, Mulch wrote:Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 2023, Mulch wrote:
In post 2022, skitter30 wrote:God you type fast.

You were deliberately trying to pocket me in Apartment where you were town. I don't see why you think that pocketing is necessarily scum indicative here.
I thought you said you disagreed with them pocketing me in the first place? Now you think that they WERE pocketing me but it wasn't scum indicative?


Pocketing could be town oriented. But most of the time it isn't.
You're misrepping me. I'm not talking about this specific instance. I'm asking why you're immediately coming to the conclusion that a) pocketing happened and b) is scum indicative here in particular when I know you that try to pocket people when you're town.

I also literally used that second line to get you mislynched in that game.
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 2026, Mulch wrote:
In post 2019, Mulch wrote:Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?
I"m working on it ffs. Give me like a minute.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:45 pm

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In post 2027, skitter30 wrote:r when I know you that try to pocket people when you're town.
I do?
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:46 pm

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Pocketing happened because they treated my word as a holy gospel, fawning over every sentiment and saying things like "quoting this for truth!" and authoritatively and confidently expressing me as top town.
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:48 pm

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In post 2026, Mulch wrote:
In post 2019, Mulch wrote:Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?
I wasn't ignoring this. I was just going through your points one by one because otherwise you'd be waiting forever.

It was scumreading not just from RVS; he also felt the same way about her in 641. It wasn't a forgotten scumread that came out of nowhere, but it had consistently been there since the beginning of the game. The vote made sense given her previous stances on her.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:49 pm

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In post 2029, Mulch wrote:
In post 2027, skitter30 wrote:r when I know you that try to pocket people when you're town.
I do?
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:50 pm

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In post 2031, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2026, Mulch wrote:
In post 2019, Mulch wrote:Why is a scumreading in RVS stage a good enough rationalization for a serious vote that led to a town lynch?
I wasn't ignoring this. I was just going through your points one by one because otherwise you'd be waiting forever.

It was scumreading not just from RVS; he also felt the same way about her in 641. It wasn't a forgotten scumread that came out of nowhere, but it had consistently been there since the beginning of the game. The vote made sense given her previous stances on her.
That's actually true...
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:51 pm

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In post 2032, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2029, Mulch wrote:
In post 2027, skitter30 wrote:r when I know you that try to pocket people when you're town.
I do?
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You were town
I'm sort of special...most people don't pocket people as town
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:51 pm

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In post 2016, skitter30 wrote:I'm talking about misere. I think you're going after a slot that's basically null on shaky reasoning when they aren't around to defend themselves.
Yeah, like misere is around to defend herself?
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:52 pm

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In post 2035, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2016, skitter30 wrote:I'm talking about misere. I think you're going after a slot that's basically null on shaky reasoning when they aren't around to defend themselves.
Yeah, like misere is around to defend herself?
I don't get what this means.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 2003, Mulch wrote:
In post 1951, Thor665 wrote:@Fykus - I know, you're lying because you missed me saying I saw that info in one of my posts
What does this mean
Now you're lying by asking :lol:

It's a reference to a joke that, at least I, found rather hilarious in thread.
Here's the joke source;
Spoiler: Guess what winky faces mean (Hint: not seriously serious thoughts)
In post 1840, Thor665 wrote:18 could easily simply be missing it - by the logic of this being a 'lie' then like half the thread was 'lying' when wanting to wait for WhyMafia to respond to your "fruit" I also don't see why scum would bother to lie about this intentionally, which means it's unintentional even if he is scum and thus not really selling me as a case.

This has basically just been a giant litmus test where I found multiple people aren't reading gak - or have the memories of goldfish. I find it slightly extra obnoxious because *you* were the one who demanded that response from me, and then you forgot it like a couple of days later.
Meh and double meh on all of you.

@Skitter - Last game we played where you were scum you said how obv. town I was - why are you not getting gak from me this game, and then advancing it a step further to actively avoid interaction with me? You even said our playstyles were very similar yet you apparently can't get any read at all on me in this game?
Last game I mistakenly town read you and you purred like a kitten for me the rest of the time you were there and not only interacted, but defended me from narf.
Now you are the narf.
I feel like I'm catching you here, I really do.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 1991, Mulch wrote:
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I apologize for being a dick last night. I got out of control and let my emotions control me, something I've been working on.
I was highly amused by that :D we're cool.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 2037, Thor665 wrote:Last game we played where you were scum you said how obv. town I was - why are you not getting gak from me this game, and then advancing it a step further to actively avoid interaction with me? You even said our playstyles were very similar yet you apparently can't get any read at all on me in this game?
Last game I mistakenly town read you and you purred like a kitten for me the rest of the time you were there and not only interacted, but defended me from narf.
Now you are the narf.
I feel like I'm catching you here, I really do.
This is actually really interesting
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:10 pm

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VOTE: Skitter

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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:10 pm

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let's do this.
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:13 pm

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well I don't wanna hammer skitter when she is here posting which is a rare sight
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:13 pm

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Yeah, his basic stance seems to be he can't get me to town read him - so he must not interact with me due to that.
But him then having me as null should be unconnected to that, and considering my value calls on a lot of players that look to be generally likely town now *prior* to any of them hitting that stage, you'd think I'd be looking at least town lean or something.

I'm not exactly a small ISO nor am I an ISO of blitz posts and/or fluff.
There's tons to data mine me on and I've offered reads on literally every player, and even had reads shift - so there's tons to assess.
I'm not a BBT slot here, I shouldn't be null.
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:13 pm

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IDK what gak and narf mean btw
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:14 pm

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Thor be prepared for heavy pressure if Skitter flips town. Fair warning.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 2045, Mulch wrote:Thor be prepared for heavy pressure if Skitter flips town. Fair warning.
Same to you?
Every vote is a vote, don't derp.
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 2047, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2045, Mulch wrote:Thor be prepared for heavy pressure if Skitter flips town. Fair warning.
Same to you?
Every vote is a vote, don't derp.
You've been pushing them the entire game, led the wagon, and have had a large amount of your reads dominated by talk of Skittles scum. Are you really relating me to you right now?
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:18 pm

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In post 1992, Mulch wrote:
In post 1924, Toranaga wrote:chip butty basically can't be scum with anybody, so I guess I should lock clear him now.
Can you explain this?
yes.

chip has had pretty harsh interactions with many players in our POE: him and skitter are hard pushing each other; him and you had many unlikely scum on scum interactions; HEM seems to be fine lynching him this gameday and pushed him hard etc. I'm not reading into any push as 'impossibly scum on scum', but certain interactions are just very unlikely to be the case the way I'm reading the game. he really feels like a lone gunner here and not someone 'connected' in any way with any other player. I'll also townread him for how invested and excited he is with the game, which I'm guessing scum would more likely lose steam after a while. his logic for almost everything is alien to me, but that doesn't mean he is a wolf now does it.

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