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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:36 pm

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Will also hammer Fitz
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:38 pm

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In post 2591, Toranaga wrote: IDK how to read chip. everything he writes is terrible, but then he and skitter were hard pushing each other, so maybe that's a good sign.

Here's how to read me. Get out of the tunnel. It's dark in there and you obviously can't see anything.


Porkens, I think you're town.
Why? Because he is on my case with no supporting reasons? Again, tunnel.



this game is draining me. if you say chip and fitz are more likely scum than mulch... sure. just have my vote. I'm tired of reading anyway and I don't necessarily trust my reads all that much.
Nice way to prepare an opportunistic jump onto my wagon without taking responsibility.

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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:39 pm

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I'd still view him tacos as townie, thor. let me pull out stuff from his iso and comment:
In post 232, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 28, Robbnva wrote:
In post 11, Toranaga wrote:I buy that whoever claimed miller is a miller
Why?
He questions Mulch AND Tor, unlike monkey.

Strong town: none
lean town: Robbnva
Null: None
lean scum: Monkey, whymafia, mulch, tor
Strong scum:

So far.
so starting with this, just from a 'scum is more self aware than that' perspective. scum!sergtacos is scumreading 4 town players and town reading his scum partner? because if he is scum, it's not with mulch or monkey, right?
In post 342, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 169, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Skitter
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"@HEM: Do you think WM is scum? Or are you pushing a policy lynch on him? Similarly, do you actually want to lynch him today?"
Not overwhelmingly. It's a policy lynch, technically. I want him out so we don't have to deal with the slot later, and then analyze based on what happened to the slot later. I think it's because scum would advocate for his survival to the point of LYLO, where it would be too late.
This tone and your statement on Whymafia sounds like whymafia is actually a miller and you're scum. You're back and forth on my reads. I can understand why we should policy lynch him however I do get a sense that whymafia is town because his interaction from all this and this post. This post is giving me scummy vibes. It feels like to me YOU know which is why I won't be surprised if whymafia flips miller so you would get "Credit." that won't work on me.
towny push here, no?
In post 347, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 310, Mulch wrote:longer deadlines benefit scum.


And more importantly, I feel like getting Havo to L-1 will elicit a claim from him.
Funny how you want a hard claim from him and not from everyone else? we might as well say fuck it and announce all of our roles.

So far, Whymafia= Miller

Anyone else want to hardclaim?

See how stupid this is? Why are you so demanding for Havo's full claim when there's still 2 weeks ahead of us for D1! Like I would expect a hard claim in D3 and/or D4, maybe D2 depending on the situation but wth.

VOTE: Mulch
In post 350, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 314, Toranaga wrote:"longer deadlines benefit scum."

why even write this? you know that's not necessarily true anyway and you know lynching anyone right now is terrible. why write such thing as if it was fact?
Because he's scum.
I really like those and I like the confidence too. it's weighed properly with what he is reading into, unlike mulch pushing havo+maria+me, for instance.
In post 355, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 348, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 344, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 249, Chip Butty wrote:About the Havo soft: If he really is a PR then drawing massive attention to himself by obstinately refusing to provide reads and doing all that complaining was a terrible way to play it. Also the alleged soft was so obvious he might as well have just hardclaimed a big PR. I agree we need to see a fullclaim at this point.
My question is why does Mulch and Chip want a fullclaim from Havo? What if he has an important role? Like jesus, know how scummy that sounds for wanting a fullclaim out of havo and its only the D1, jesus fuck.

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It's simple. Havo said that lynching him is the worst thing town can do. That is, he is claiming the strongest PR. So he is already going to be a prime target for NK. So there is no greater risk to town if he actually specifies what he is claiming.

Atm he has made it clear he is seeking the protection from lynching that a claim usually affords, while dodging the risk of being cc-ed that comes with a specific claim.

Thus a specific claim has upside for town and no downside. Leaving things as they stand just opens up the possibility of letting scum.havo cruise. Downside for town with no upside.
Your argument is still not convincing. You hopped, demanded a full claim, parked your vote on Havo when he soft claim a PR. That is pinging me mafia big time. I wish i could vote you and mulch at the same time.
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Strong town:
Lean town: Whymafia
Null: Havo
between null and lean scum: Skitter
Lean scum: Monkey
Strong scum: Mulch and Chip

Skitter is weird, i town read Robb however when Skitter replaced in, his posts been sounding scummy.
is a scum!tacos going to organically shift his read on scum!skitter? looks pretty good, no?

finished reading his d1 and it's all townie posting. IDK what's scummy about him. he pushed right leans, he wasn't on the maria wagon, he wasn't on the havo wagon. every flipped town disliked the havo wagon, and scum was on it. I mean, I don't see it. I like his D3 too, I like how he is pushing mulch. those posts on mulch perspective slipping are pretty good. IDK. maybe I'm idiot but I don't see it at all, I think it's bizarre that this is even a wagon.
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:40 pm

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In post 2594, Mulch wrote:"Than anyone else seems to save chip"


What does this mean?
It means my reads on Porkens haven't been as shallow as others.
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:44 pm

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In post 2559, Mulch wrote:Ok, I like your points Porkens. I can follow all of them. You've improved the stock of your slot
Why are you giving Porkens such an easy pass? Link some original scumhunting by him prior to this post of yours...
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:46 pm

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In post 2604, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2559, Mulch wrote:Ok, I like your points Porkens. I can follow all of them. You've improved the stock of your slot
Why are you giving Porkens such an easy pass? Link some original scumhunting by him prior to this post of yours...
His push on me, I liked. What didn't you like about it?
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:03 pm

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I like Mulch.

I could move Mulch up to orange.
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:07 pm

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I have no will to change your mind about that but I'm not sure lynching tacos is any good
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:08 pm

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so vote for chip.

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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:09 pm

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vote: chip butty
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:11 pm

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In post 2596, Mulch wrote:Whose saving who?? I'm sorry I don't understand
That's why I put it into different words so you could understand it - did my alternate version make sense to you?
In no, where am I losing you on that version?
If yes, then let's move on.
In post 2602, Toranaga wrote:I'd still view him tacos as townie, thor. let me pull out stuff from his iso and comment:
'm going to only respond to the stuff THAT ISN'T ABOUT HIM ATTACKING MULCH ON THE PRESUMPTION MULCH IS SCUM/SCUMMY AND THEREFORE ITS A TOWNTELL.
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Seriously, I thought I was clear in my ask.
In post 2602, Toranaga wrote:so starting with this, just from a 'scum is more self aware than that' perspective. scum!sergtacos is scumreading 4 town players and town reading his scum partner? because if he is scum, it's not with mulch or monkey, right?
I fail to follow how handing a scum a town lean and scum leaning other slots some of whom are town and others are unflipped equates to a valid town tell in any way or form for Serg.
In post 2602, Toranaga wrote:towny push here, no?
No.
It's just a push - until we have a flip we don't know if it's towny or not.
It might just be scum skewing words to try for a mislynch.
In post 2602, Toranaga wrote:is a scum!tacos going to organically shift his read on scum!skitter? looks pretty good, no?
If he'd done anything with it I would agree.
I'll say I think this is your best point (I would call this your only point, frankly, but I can be a jerk) but it's not like he did anything with this supposed shift.
Even Serg had to admit to me (and I paraphrase) "Oh, yeah, I thought I'd put up all my thoughts and reasonings to lynch Skitter that happened in my head - guess I forgot, sorry!" Which doesn't awe me with the attack.
it sells you a lot though, huh?
In post 2602, Toranaga wrote:I think it's bizarre that this is even a wagon.
What do you think of my VCA?
I think that looks super bad for the slot.
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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:11 pm

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Ecplain how that was a Skitter bus on Chip.
If you want a reeky wagon, you feebs jumped on it.
And I only town read one of you.
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:12 pm

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Hell, just saying, I think town leaning Robb is straight up scummy - that slot did spit.
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:13 pm

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OMG THAT REMINDS ME
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:13 pm

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In post 82, Mulch wrote:
In post 80, Virtuoso wrote:
Robbnva has requested replacement. Searching now.
I hate to say it but I think that in all likelihood a chance of a town win just went up lol
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:13 pm

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Game. Set. Match
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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:14 pm

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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:15 pm

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In post 2611, Thor665 wrote:@TOranaga
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Ecplain how that was a Skitter bus on Chip.
If you want a reeky wagon, you feebs jumped on it.
And I only town read one of you.
I don't understand your question. Vote for who you think is scum.
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:15 pm

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are you lynching mulch if tacos flips town? I more or less can't be arsed anyway
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:16 pm

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In post 2618, Toranaga wrote:are you lynching mulch if tacos flips town? I more or less can't be arsed anyway
Setting up a pre flip huh
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:16 pm

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In post 2619, Mulch wrote:
In post 2618, Toranaga wrote:are you lynching mulch if tacos flips town? I more or less can't be arsed anyway
Setting up a pre flip huh
I'm also dying tonight, am I not
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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:17 pm

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In post 2620, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2619, Mulch wrote:
In post 2618, Toranaga wrote:are you lynching mulch if tacos flips town? I more or less can't be arsed anyway
Setting up a pre flip huh
I'm also dying tonight, am I not
Not neccecarily. If I had to guess I would say so
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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:17 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:17 pm

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In post 2617, Porkens wrote:
In post 2611, Thor665 wrote:@TOranaga
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Ecplain how that was a Skitter bus on Chip.
If you want a reeky wagon, you feebs jumped on it.
And I only town read one of you.
I don't understand your question. Vote for who you think is scum.
I am voting who I think is scum.
What I'm asking is for you to explain why you think Skitter and Chip can be partners and how you think that worked?
That you're ducking it...meh, doesn't impress me on your read.
In post 2618, Toranaga wrote:are you lynching mulch if tacos flips town? I more or less can't be arsed anyway
I would lynch Porkens if Serg flipped town.
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:18 pm

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How about we lynch the misere slot which is going to hit scum -_-
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