In post 2094, beeboy wrote:Quick is doing roughly the same thing and isnt a newbie lol
It would be one thing if you were pressuring me because you thought I was Scum, but you are not. Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum or you don't like my playstyle or both.
You said my push on you was shit.
You are pushing whiskers for being defensive and not pushing his reads.
I am pushimg you for being defensive and not pushing your reads.
I am now pushing you for constantly saying my reasoning is bs / personal when you are using that exact line of reasoning.
ah yes, beeboy style reads;
if this person flips town, then i'll townread them. - Nahdia
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yet
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,
ever?
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.
In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
What do you even know about me?
You like to fuck around a lot.
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.
In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
In post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
yes good thank you
actually damn this whole page is pretty good.
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yet
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,
ever?
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.
In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
What do you even know about me?
You like to fuck around a lot.
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.
In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
In post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
yes good thank you
actually damn this whole page is pretty good.
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?
Why didnt i deserve those allegations when i pushed you ?
In post 2094, beeboy wrote:Quick is doing roughly the same thing and isnt a newbie lol
It would be one thing if you were pressuring me because you thought I was Scum, but you are not. Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum or you don't like my playstyle or both.
You said my push on you was shit.
You are pushing whiskers for being defensive and not pushing his reads.
I am pushimg you for being defensive and not pushing your reads.
I am now pushing you for constantly saying my reasoning is bs / personal when you are using that exact line of reasoning.
I did say you push on me is shit. The reason for this is that you are not making original arguments for why I am Scum. All your reasons seem to be pretty generic cookie-cutter to me.
Where did I say I am pushing whiskers for being defensive? I am pretty sure I have stated my reasons for pushing Whiskers and they are not that they are being defensive.
Being defensive is not a Scum tell, sorry to tell you. And I can't push my reads when A.) I am getting barraged by multi-post after multi-post for why I am Scum and B.) My Scum reads are not in the thread and C.) I don't like to reuse the same arguments over and over.
So in post 176 you park your vote on me, and that's where it remains for the rest of the Day, it apparently. I'm still not clear why you voted me and IMO you holding onto this vote is pretty evident of confirmation bias. This post is on page 8.
Despite axel only apparently(?) posting in the Trump thread, whiskers should be able to see his posting style is always obscure. Posts are also frequent but not memorable. I think they're defending themselves by comparing themselves to other players, which is pot and kettle wrt axel and uc
I didn't actually
read
any of the trump posts, I was looking for mafia-related content.
In post 1115, Flubbernugget wrote:There's a lot of votes on whiskers, but I don't remember where they came from or why they got there. Cabd made a good catch with the lack of vote, however.
whiskers, who was defending herself because she didn't have time to dig deep into this game.
In post 1228, Flubbernugget wrote:Whiskers, I know where my vote is. I can't tell if being unable to track the rest of the votes on you comes from nefarious motivations or the pace of the game. I'm assuming the latter.
You reply to very much but say very little, and you don't follow up your reads very well with your accusations.
I'm having trouble tracking the votes on me because a lot of them were like yours-- vague and out of left field.
In post 1253, Flubbernugget wrote:You can't just play like scum and then say it's okay because that's how you play.
Yes I can. And if you have a problem with me saying that, you should look at Quick, who is [playing like scum] and when challenged on it, goes [that's just how i am, i don't want to socialize, i don't feel like helping town, etc.]
I'm pretty sure I already talked about this but your whole obfuscation thing wreaks of a similar hypocrisy.
If Joey's getting away with the same thing you aren't it's probably because you're louder
I discussed this already. My "obfuscation thing" doesn't reek of hypocrisy, as my posts don't read like a koan. What Alisae did with joey and me was hypocrisy. Luckily, we've had some more since then that I'm not even involved in. (quick and beeboy(?), Joey and Nero (?)) I'm not really sure of the players, I just remember reading it :p)
Honestly, Flubbernugget's bit about the counterwagon is the most solid, most sound reasoning for voting me he's had all game. I
don't
think he's wrong to vote me for that-- I think that, when I flip, town is gonna get a lot to analyze. But I think that's a lucky coincidence for Flubber, since he never really revealed a reason to lynch me
before
that. To remind you: his vote has been on me since page 8.
(Also I'm not in his list of scumreads from a few posts ago, but I think that's just an oversight.)
Well you just used buzz words to discredit me, i can find the quote when i get home. If you think i am pushing you into a corner ill give you space until tomorrow unless i see a shift thst enables me to lynch you which i domt see happening
ah yes, beeboy style reads;
if this person flips town, then i'll townread them. - Nahdia
Being defensive / survivalistic isnt a scum tell you arent wrong but most people who play like that push there reads along side being super defensive. If you wanted to wrap your head around my push a bit more.
ah yes, beeboy style reads;
if this person flips town, then i'll townread them. - Nahdia
In post 2092, Nero Cain wrote:Whiskers, what did you think of Nauci using your defense of her to defend herself while simultaneously calling you scum for it?
She wasn't calling me scum
for it
, she called me scum as a lazy read. I was on a wagon counter to flipped town, and apparently I post too much. She said she'd ISO me later, which I'm confident will be the first ISO of me anybody's done this game. I'm not worried about it: Nauci is town, I like her reads.
In post 2109, beeboy wrote:Being defensive / survivalistic isnt a scum tell you arent wrong but most people who play like that push there reads along side being super defensive. If you wanted to wrap your head around my push a bit more.
Anything you think applies to people in a general sense should prolly be thrown out the window when it comes to me. I have seen so many times that people say "Quick (or LQ) wouldn't do X as Town" and I have not seen that argument be correct a single time.
In post 2108, beeboy wrote:Well you just used buzz words to discredit me, i can find the quote when i get home. If you think i am pushing you into a corner ill give you space until tomorrow unless i see a shift thst enables me to lynch you which i domt see happening
In post 2099, Joey_ wrote:Wtf quick, you contracdicted yourself and refused to engage with beE's fos, that has nothing to do with your playstyle. Also this
"Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum" like how is that even relevant in the context? Even if he was mafia
his case could be legetimate and youd have to address it.
LOLOLOL, haven't you learned yet? Quick never addresses anything!
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yet
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,
ever?
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.
No, incorrect.
And I could ask you to supply evidence of Beeboy sticking to you due to confirmation bias, but you won't, so I'm not going to bother.
In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
What do you even know about me?
You like to fuck around a lot.
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.
In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
In post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
yes good thank you
actually damn this whole page is pretty good.
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?
- Refuses to work with town, deflects or ignores all questions, is openly caustic and unhelpful, and somehow also isn't lynched. Piggybacked/sheeped Alisae to vote me.
Vote: Quick
Why do any of these things mean I am Scum? I already said cooperation isn't really my thing. If I am deflecting or ignoring shit it is because I hate having to explain basic shit and how it is wrong. Openly caustic or unhelpful is interesting. Why do these mean I am Scum?
In post 2099, Joey_ wrote:Wtf quick, you contracdicted yourself and refused to engage with beE's fos, that has nothing to do with your playstyle. Also this
"Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum" like how is that even relevant in the context? Even if he was mafia
his case could be legetimate and youd have to address it.
LOLOLOL, haven't you learned yet? Quick never addresses anything!
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yet
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,
ever?
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.
No, incorrect.
And I could ask you to supply evidence of Beeboy sticking to you due to confirmation bias, but you won't, so I'm not going to bother.
In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
What do you even know about me?
You like to fuck around a lot.
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.
In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
In post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
yes good thank you
actually damn this whole page is pretty good.
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?
Cool! I'd love a counterwagon on Quickscum.
Why do you think I am not addressing things when you are quoting me addressing things?
they are more concerned with defending themselves than pushing their Scum reads.
You can see this in the tone and language that they use. Its just off and doesn't ring like they are innocent.
In post 2105, Quick wrote:
Where did I say I am pushing whiskers for being defensive?
I am pretty sure I have stated my reasons for pushing Whiskers and they are not that they are being defensive.
Being defensive is not a Scum tell,
sorry to tell you. And I can't push my reads when A.) I am getting barraged by multi-post after multi-post for why I am Scum and B.) My Scum reads are not in the thread and C.) I don't like to reuse the same arguments over and over.
In post 2110, Whiskers wrote:No, I'm saying that when I die and flip town, then and only then can you make a case that "Flubber is scum for going to the counterwagon!"
Whats the difference? For the sake of the argument, you know you are town. Why must you flip town first?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
they are more concerned with defending themselves than pushing their Scum reads.
You can see this in the tone and language that they use. Its just off and doesn't ring like they are innocent.
In post 2105, Quick wrote:
Where did I say I am pushing whiskers for being defensive?
I am pretty sure I have stated my reasons for pushing Whiskers and they are not that they are being defensive.
Being defensive is not a Scum tell,
sorry to tell you. And I can't push my reads when A.) I am getting barraged by multi-post after multi-post for why I am Scum and B.) My Scum reads are not in the thread and C.) I don't like to reuse the same arguments over and over.
Yeah, I don't think just because you are defending yourself means you are being defensive. Being defensive is a tonal thing. Someone can be defensive and defend themselves OR they can defend themselves and NOT be defensive. You are equating two things as being the same that are not the same thing. I still stand by my statement that being defensive isn't a Scum tell, and I will also say I haven't used the fact that you have been defensive as a reason for why you are Scum.
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yet
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,
ever?
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.
In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.
What do you even know about me?
You like to fuck around a lot.
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.
In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
In post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
yes good thank you
actually damn this whole page is pretty good.
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?
Why didnt i deserve those allegations when i pushed you ?
In post 2104, beeboy wrote:I like how Quick has no valid argument to reply to how he is pushing Whiskers for a line of reasoning he is calling pure bs so he is just ignoring me
Quick play is mostly incoherent, odd, contradicting and so on but theres a few of his posts hard to read as not coming from town @bee i know you share the same opinion
