Newbie 1827: Baseball Game Over

[Apple Jack]

That's tin foily at best. Plus for you making pre-flip associations:

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Let's lynch this Scum that shows no common sense.

Nah it’s not and since when is preflip associations bad? As long as you revaluate after they are perfectly fine.

But please. Lynch me and when I flip town lynch the guy who once hasn’t corrected my continual mistakes that he’s the cop when his predecessor claimed tracker.

[Quick]

That's tin foily at best. Plus for you making pre-flip associations:

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Let's lynch this Scum that shows no common sense.

Nah it’s not and since when is preflip associations bad? As long as you revaluate after they are perfectly fine.

But please. Lynch me and when I flip town lynch the guy who once hasn’t corrected my continual mistakes that he’s the cop when his predecessor claimed tracker.

Where did Thor claim Cop? And why would he do that?

[Apple Jack]

I kept referring to him as a cop. He never corrected me. That’s weird since he’s not a cop

[Quick]

I kept referring to him as a cop. He never corrected me. That’s weird since he’s not a cop

Where did you call him Cop? And why did you call him Cop?

[Apple Jack]

518 & 572

I did that to see if he would correct me and confirm what tsq claimed.

[Quick]

518 & 572

I did that to see if he would correct me and confirm what tsq claimed.

Thor did address it. He said it was "Derpy".

[Apple Jack]

That’s not really addressing the mistake. It’s discrediting my entire post.

[Quick]

That's tin foily at best. Plus for you making pre-flip

How is bad play the same as scummy play?
Because I agree with you that he's doubling down (or maybe triple now) on bad play.
I'm not sure i see the scum motivation behind considering I'm offering him a million outs and calling him town.
I think he just honestly believes he's playing well (scary) or is so self concious he can't back off of the derp even if he recognizes it and is sticking to his guns (maybe...scarier? I'm not sure.)

But regardless I fail to see much scum motivation unless his goal is to have people write him off as silly sauce and let him slide till near endgame.
What's your theory here?

Those are not bad points, but through all this, he's thought I was Sus at multiple points throughout the game and still has his vote on the claimed IC instead of me. I find that to be pretty suspect myself. I mean, you can argue "oh its just bad play" but at the end of the Day, when people play like that they most certainly deserve some scrutiny. IDK why you are so quick to write him off as Town. I just don't get that. I just find it weird how DH basically says he's not going to push anything D1 and then D2 he has the game solved. I just don't understand that.

[Apple Jack]

Just cause I didn’t vote d1, doesn’t mean I wasn’t playing the game.

I showed that scum tsq pushes “scum slips”
Majorit of people on site know that “scum slip” claims are almost always bullshit and the ones that aren’t bullshit aren’t ones where somebody called somebody town.
I also showed that if tsq is actually town and actually believes in his definition of the scum slip UC did, tsq is guilty of the same one. M
Tsq when pressured instead of defending his posts, resorted to just personally attacking people (which he took objection to day 1 when gameplay responded to tsq with a personal attack)

Tsq tried to say he shouldn’t be scum read for his push on Uc
Tsq refused go substantiate his claims that you and I were scum and when he said he would finally provide reasons he lurked out.
(Interesting his replacement won’t substantiate his claims either. Coincidence? Not likely.)

So vote me if you want. Lynch me even. He’s scum. There are other reasons for a lack of CC. The claim is the ONLY thing that makes him look town and for me the claim isn’t enough with so much damning evidence

[Quick]

Just cause I didn’t vote d1, doesn’t mean I wasn’t playing the game.

I showed that scum tsq pushes “scum slips”
Majorit of people on site know that “scum slip” claims are almost always bullshit and the ones that aren’t bullshit aren’t ones where somebody called somebody town.
I also showed that if tsq is actually town and actually believes in his definition of the scum slip UC did, tsq is guilty of the same one. M
Tsq when pressured instead of defending his posts, resorted to just personally attacking people (which he took objection to day 1 when gameplay responded to tsq with a personal attack)

Tsq tried to say he shouldn’t be scum read for his push on Uc
Tsq refused go substantiate his claims that you and I were scum and when he said he would finally provide reasons he lurked out.
(Interesting his replacement won’t substantiate his claims either. Coincidence? Not likely.)

So vote me if you want. Lynch me even. He’s scum. There are other reasons for a lack of CC. The claim is the ONLY thing that makes him look town and for me the claim isn’t enough with so much damning evidence

Unless you are CCing the IC, I think there is a good chance you are Scum.

[Apple Jack]

Well I’m scum

[Quick]

Well I’m scum

We don't know that until you flip

[Apple Jack]

That’s fine. Now go convince others to lynch me. In the meantime I’m maintaining that Thor is still scum.

[Thor665]

Those are not bad points, but through all this, he's thought I was Sus at multiple points throughout the game and still has his vote on the claimed IC instead of me. I find that to be pretty suspect myself. I mean, you can argue "oh its just bad play" but at the end of the Day, when people play like that they most certainly deserve some scrutiny. IDK why you are so quick to write him off as Town. I just don't get that. I just find it weird how DH basically says he's not going to push anything D1 and then D2 he has the game solved. I just don't understand that.

You are again arguing bad play.
Let me ask this;

If he's scum, and if you're town, and he spent a lot of time suggesting you were scum - why would he avoid voting you today considering you look like a perfectly functional mislynch?
Why would he derp along with his super weak "Thor didn't gainsay my derp super directly" case?
I think it's because he thinks he's clever.
Not that he's scum.
Like, scum would be fine voting you, right?

[Apple Jack]

This game is so frustrating. We’ve got 2 players who aren’t even playing. One who won’t make a case when asked and is basically only town read due to a Pr claim yet doesn’t bother correcting me when I call him the wrong one which is highly suspect. One who’s hiding under an alt acting like he doesn’t know how to play, one who is probably scum and hasn’t defended himself wel and isn’t scum hunting well, and myself who is single handily the person trying their hardest to win. Idk why I care so much when it’s clear nobody else does.

I’ll probably switch to wilky at some point but the longer Thor refuses to make a proper case like I asked, the less likely I want to do anything that supports him.

[Thor665]

One who won’t make a case when asked

To clarify this point again.
I did make a case, and did provide "the work" of my case when asked.
You said the case explanation wasn't up to your standards.
Bit of a difference then what you're saying here, isn't it?

So why are you shifting the narrative here?

[Thor665]

Also, I asked you a number of very valid and reasonable questions about your stance.
To which my response was you putting your fingers in your ears and going 'nyah, nyah!'

So, seriously dude.

[Apple Jack]

Oh did I miss your vca? I didn’t see anything with all the pretty colors that people usually do so can you please link it for me? If you didn’t post something like that, you didn’t do a proper vca. EVERYONE who does vca does that.
The part about the Nk doesn’t matter as much cause I came to that conclusion before you even replaced in. Something your predecessor wasn’t even considering.
Did I miss the posts wilky make that make him the most likely scum? Can you link it?

Also earlier I thought you said you promise he was scum. You actually said you promise he isn’t scum. What happened there?

Why didn’t you correct me when I called you cop twice when you aren’t the cop?

[Apple Jack]

Until you give me what I’ve been asking for, I’m not giving you what you want. I asked first.

[Apple Jack]

I just checked. No cool color coded vca has been posted neither has posts from day 1 that wilky made. so clearly you lied. You haven’t given me what I’ve asked for.

[Thor665]

I just checked. No cool color coded vca has been posted neither has posts from day 1 that wilky made. so clearly you lied. You haven’t given me what I’ve asked for.

I want evidence he’s read the game and I want what I asked about wilky. I don’t want a lame excuse like he gave.

I gave you what you asked for about Wilky - would you like a link?
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I'll agree that I didn't post anything with color coding.
Never said i did.
Unaware that VCA actually requires it (hint: it doesn't)
You also never posted color coded stuff for your claim that the VCA clear WIlky (something I asked you about and you ran away like a crying baby in fear of the question and whined that I wasn
't responding to you.

What is your issue exactly?

[Thor665]

I think we can both agree that there are high odds of at least one scum voting for that wagon, so if we both choose to agree that I'm town, and Wilky is one of four other voters, ought to at least show him as a 25% chance, yeah?

How do you think the VCA doesn't point to him?

Here it is directly, if the link is too complex for you.
It might be, because you apparently didn't click it the first time.

There aren't colors.
But if there were colors then there would be me as town and 4 other people on a wagon - so use your logic and imagine colors if you need them to assess info.

[Apple Jack]

I can’t deal with you anymore. You are being intentionally dense and denying me information to make an informed decision. I’ll just assume your reason is scum motivated.

I’ll see whoever is still around on day 3.

Later.

[Thor665]

I am providing you exactly what you're asking for you lackwit.

[Apple Jack]

Still don’t see the VCA

Still don’t see posts wilky made day 1 with explanation.

You haven’t given me jack shit.