In post 210, skitter30 wrote:
This is how I feel about them too, and to a certain, but lesser extent, you and Seph as well. You're all pushing the right things imo, and taking reasonable positions. I'm just slightly concerned that I'm biased towards townreading all four of you because you're pushibg things that I agree with.
Honestly I feel like this hits the nail on the head for me and its what's bothering me about this game. A lot of my reads basically look like "acting rationally" or "not acting rationally".
With Wossi to me it seems the wagon is built on him holding a position that happens to be unpopular (lynch all liars) with this group of players more than anything particularly scummy that they've done. I dont think there was a significant shift in rhetoric between 34 and 37, since it all falls under the umbrella of lynch all liars which is not a novel belief. 41 just seems like he's making a joke about his random vote and its been read into like crazy. This isn't page
Its an older playstyle sir, but it checks out.
I mean I could respond to each specific post thats called out if people want but suffice it to say I just don't see what others seem to see in Wossi.
In post 205, implosion wrote:
Sephiroth wrote:Meanwhile Serg got jealous of lalendra and wanted my vote back. Surprised only Dany and Skitter have mentioned that raw L-1 vote. I dunno to me it seems like a much better wagon might be Mr. Tacos over here.
I mean, the reasoning here is obvious but. Do you think serg-scum is likely to put himself out there with the naked L-1 vote? I don't think serg-scum would see the mixed reaction he got to the miller fiasco and decide "hm, what I need now is to enshrine myself as the center of attention."
I haven't found serg's play to be especially rational throughout. I think this line of argument winds up being fairly wifom but for the record I don't think serg-scum was too worried about the consequences. They seem to have disappeared so perhaps they didn't expect this sort of reaction at all. Dude literally hasn't said a thing. Scum or town, that doesn't sound like heady play to me.
As an example of how this is incredibly WIFOM, here's you calling out wavemode for essentially the exact same thing you're employing here
In post 169, implosion wrote:
Second is this:
All the nonsense Wossi is accused of, scum tend to specifically try to avoid doing, especially in the very early game... to avoid this exact situation he is in now
which is just like the most basic kind of too scummy to be scum argument.
How is this at all different than your defense of serg above? Bonus points: You use a similar line of reasoning in defense of serg way back in 83 as well. Its funny how this argument seems to consistently apply to taco but but if wavemode uses it to defend wossi its a 'basic too scummy to be scum' argument.
In post 211, Flubbernugget wrote:
Sephiroph, what post are you arguing with tacos about? It's probably one of the early ones.
I think its pretty clear if you read my posts that I'm talking about his miller claim and subsequent failure to clarify if it was real or a joke.
Lalendra's vote might be the scummiest thing to happen so far. I dont think anyone thought that wagon was leading to an imminent lynch, so dropping the L-1 after it had just been criticized from Serg and asking for a claim no less looks really scummy to me. Lalendra basically just decided for all of us that it was time to end the day with a wossi lynch. Either her or Serg should be the ones being wagoned. I'm honestly going to be throwing my vote to whichever one of those two others are willing to vote. Let's make it happen.
unvote: serg, vote: lalendra
Come on guys let's have a real wagon!
You are just a muppet... You have no heart... and cannot feel any pain.