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[Espeonage]

Hi Havo!

Is there anything else that particularly strikes you to comment on atm


I would
Like to know

Yup. I don't understand Katyusha's scumread on Firaja because she's given no reason for it apart from disagreeing with him, and it looks like she mixed up Jodaxq and Firaja in 68 or else I just didn't understand that last comment at all. Also schadd's posts are works of art but I don't know what I think about them alignment wise yet.

Were you asking after something in particular?

Aaaaand good posting

[Espeonage]

@Keychain

68 is actually talking to you lmao sorry

if my firaja vote was just for disagreeing with him i'd also be scumreading you here - theres more to it but i want people to do more before i push a full case

although saying it's just because i'm disagreeing feels a bit reductive. it was in the way he explained his reasoning that felt off (i.e. that he wasnt really parsing the game like i would expect town to)

First of all, you're wrong.

[Zachstralkita]

Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate


nsg, lol

[Zachstralkita]

Id bet money Espe has a town slot lol

[Espeonage]

Ah, OK

I'm not really happy with the cy push in general since firaja supports it (besides me townreading cy)

This is bad posting. And exudes scum ego.

[Espeonage]

End of page five. Phone hurting eyes. Bbl

[Keychain]

Id bet money Espe has a town slot lol

I disagree but we'll see. You getting that read from Espeon or Cy?

I'm probably



VOTE: EE

Why didn't you do this when I was voting him?


Also Dunnstral popped his head in, do you have any thoughts on that?

[Espeonage]

I'm still liking it

Okay so:

A) You misquoted me. I said "If we're going by this logic, I think this would be a good place to start." Keywords: "If we're going by this logic". I thought other people would be going by this logic and decided to take a stab at it.

Yeah, my apologies, I should have put a disclaimer that it was my takeaway from the post, not a direct quote.
Can you explain what that logic was? Because from my POV it looks like you were assuming Transcend had a higher-than-random chance of rolling scum. I find that difficult to believe you accepted this premise, even more so that you would expect other people to do so, so please help me understand.

B) So because half of the people appeared before Transcend, I should have grasped at straws with them first? I went with a small thing that I could just look at -- not even actually scumreading him. And I addressed some of the faulty logic, it's not like I followed it blindly.

See above regarding why I find it difficult to understand how you followed

any

of the logic.
But no. I mean... you started a game. Players were posting things. Players with alignments. Instead of looking at their posts to work out if they were scum or not, you instead decided to inquire into the meta of a player who hadn't even posted, so you had zero way to develop a read from that at that point. I would have expected it to give you some sort of opinion on UCV, but I see no evidence of that so far.

C) What type of information? Like his previous games? How do I access that -- legit question. That'd be useful information down the road.

Yeah that was a legit question. When I'm doing background research I check wikis first (next to the PM button at the bottom left of each post) then the topic search Katyusha linked (go to profile of the player, bottom right of that). But you said you trying to get the game rolling, not that you were setting up for well down the track. Those are different things to me.


On another note: why are you voting Firaja?

Strong first and last paragraphs. Notable due to mentality. Good use of questions on a lead to get a better read.

[Espeonage]

Guys no novels plz

You can stay

[Espeonage]

Right, however using something out of seemingly nothing is a little sketchy to me. Trying to take something seemingly irrelevant and potwbtially turn it into something else is what is runbing me the wrong way here as it may be a potential to cause misdirection.
Again this is all a bit of a reach as it is a bit early, but i do see your point as well of cy trying to find substance and add to the discussion.

ok i guess this is what i wanted to get at

you think this is newbscummy or just newb?

also to find this post i looked at the activity count and i have to deeply apologize to everyone for having 30 fucking posts already so i'll just shut up and let dunnstral take over once i hit submit

Noob, seen this done well and badly. And if players see others using it in games they are liable to not understand the tone that belies the alignment. Plus the slot is town bc of opening.

[Espeonage]

I can't read 100 and 110 and not scumread u

I stg, you better explain this.

[Espeonage]

Right, however using something out of seemingly nothing is a little sketchy to me. Trying to take something seemingly irrelevant and potwbtially turn it into something else is what is runbing me the wrong way here as it may be a potential to cause misdirection.
Again this is all a bit of a reach as it is a bit early, but i do see your point as well of cy trying to find substance and add to the discussion.

I'm not really making the connection of how turning the discussion from "haha let's ql trans for memes hes statistically more likely to be scum" to "how do I read trans?" is a scummy diversion of attention. town wants to be able to read the rest of the table to ultimately find scum

Btw, I'm assuming you're new? do you have prior experience on a forum if so?

Firstly, to answer your question, I played on this site around 5-6 years ago, however forgot the password to my account, and lost access to the email linked to it, and so made this one because I wanted to give this a shot again.

Back on Topic; As i said before, I see where you are coming from, and as the thread has progressed it is clear cy is trying to add content and looking back it does make sense that they were trying to find something to work with. My original viewpoint was the UCV was making a joke, and it looked like cy was trying to turn it into something more major than it needed to be, which is why I said it was becoming distractive/irrelevant.
However after seeing this post;

Well I mean, what would you like me to do on the first page? If you look at the first thing I said, I go off the logic of someone else, not just straight up asking for meta with no context. I was trying to work with someone else to get the game rolling.

I am willing to admit I may have jumped the gun a little, and I didn't actually see it that way when in the moment last night.

I am leaning towards cy and Katyusha being town at this point simply for the reason that they are pushing valid reasons for suspecting me because of my misinterpretation of the cy/UCV interaction at the beginning of the game, and while I am still a little sceptical of the exchange in general, I believe my sights may have been temporarily diverted in the wrong direction.

One last thing before I move on,

Ah, OK

I'm not really happy with the cy push in general since firaja supports it (besides me townreading cy)

I did not support the cy push, I simply stated an opinion on an event that happened, I even said it was a little early to take too much from it at that point. If I supported the push, I would have voted cy. I didn't because I still was unsure at the time.
However now, thanks to the points raised by you and cy, I am not.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: UC Voyager

and here's why;
Looking back at the original exchange that I felt a bit weird on, what I overlooked was UCV pushing a little hard on this point with posts #14 and #15, and then explaining in "detail" with post #17. Due to this, I now understand how it may have been seen as an actual point against Transcend instead of a joke, which I first believed was the intention. Again, due to this, it seems that UCV was the one actually being distracting here, as he kept pushing this point through to post #75, before discounting it as "Joke Logic" - causing a distracting exchange which he then seemed to make mean seemingly nothing. I don't understand why he let the exchange go on so long, and make it seem that he was being serious to just discount it all after the fact.

Also once discussion had started this post;

i am not an alt

Rubs me the wrong way, as it is adding nothing at all, and as discussion had started by then, there is little excuse for it in my opinion.

Moving away from UCV for a second (because I still have 2 pages of the thread to read... )

Once again, he refuses to specify any points. At all. The difference between you and him is the fact that you use sources, you recall specific instances, and you fleshout your thoughts. Even in your first few points about the situation, you came across way more town they he did. That's why I townread you and scumread him.

I didn't have a lot to flesh out at that point, as it was just an observation at that point more than anything else, I didn't say I thought you were scum because of it, so didn't feel the need to push a case through, but I think with the small amount of information I had (2 pages) I explained why I thought the way I did about the information the best I could. Please explain further if I am misinterpreting this though? But I thought I did use the example I was referring to as much as I could at that time.

Guys no novels plz

But "Novels" are us expressing our opinions, how else would you like us to catch scum?

ok i guess this is what i wanted to get at

you think this is newbscummy or just newb?

I am unsure, the reason why I said it *could* be scummy is because of the potential focus on something seemingly irrelevant (but as I explained above, I do now see this as making UCV look more Scummy that cy). The reason I said I have my eye on cy isn't because I necessarily believe he is Scum, but because if this becomes a constant thing it could lead me to believe he is. However, his recent posts have me leaning away from this view.

havo
transcend
firaja

Hi.

Dude you were doing so well and then this. Bloody hell. Selective tells that don't apply to others is real bad. Like real bad.

[Espeonage]

I asked cause
your post has a lot of words but in 144 the merit of your town reads on cy/Katy basically amounts to "they're scumhunting/solving"
Am I wrong
So it makes me wonder what you actually think scum would be doing.... or trying to give the impression of
Cause that post doesn't seem like it comes from town



Also your UC Voyager read is actually boggling and I didnt like his posts that much either
townread cy and Katy for adding game content but scumread UC Voyager for distracting the game
When that interaction actually was the start of advancing the game
Whether he's scum or town it was really clear the impression was joke-y
What was being distracted from tho

In the span of the posts you're referring to what happened in order was
- you talk about uc / cy interaction
-Katy pushes you
-Katy pushes you
- Keychain scums it up

Am I high? Im not high

Scum

Keychain
Firaja
Dunnstral
Jodaxq
schadd(lmao)

If Uc is mafia here I think he'd be with Firaja

Fwm

"Scum lists are scummy" - everyone like two years ago.

But on a serious note. Joda and schadd are like a worse version of you so far.

"Humans like to tell the truth even if they are trying to lie."

[Espeonage]

And can I please just say. Y'all need to shut up about the rvs.

Half these people you have reads on have not done anything. Engage for fucks sake.

[wavemode]

K I actually have no idea how to read this fucking game

Which is unfortunate considering I'm currently invincible

Still gut feeling that 2 of shadd/Transcend/Keychain are scum. Dunnstral/EE could be scum as well. tinfoil hat theory that Zach is scum

None of these people are wagons so I will start one! VOTE: Transcend

[Espeonage]

Noted

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Transcend

THE DREAM. FOH.

Id bet money Espe has a town slot lol

I disagree but we'll see. You getting that read from Espeon or Cy?

Espeon For sure lmao.

Why didn't you do this when I was voting him?

A lot of people are scums

Dunnstral

Dayvig

I can't read 100 and 110 and not scumread u

I stg, you better explain this.

this is going to be entertaining

[Zachstralkita]

it's time to get muzzled, transcend

[Zachstralkita]

what actually sucks is katy is obvtown but MIA
thats why this game feels empty
and vacant
like my soul

[Srceenplay]

Katy is a knight. Not town. That’s the only thing giving pause about cy/espe but not big enough pause.

[Transcend]

K buh I'm pree obv town

[KidAmn]

Vote Count Ten, Or "It's Fantastic To Finally Meet A Group Of Individuals As Commitment-Phobic As I Am... Wait, Where'd You All Go?"

Srceenplay (3): Jodaxq, Espeonage, Everyone Else
Espeonage (3): Transcend, Srceenplay, Keychain
Transcend (2): wavemode, Zachstralkita
Everyone Else (1): Havo
northsidegal (1): Katyusha
Jodaxq (1): Schadd

Not Voting (2): Dunnstral, northsidegal

Day 1 Will End The Same Way All Weekends End - Alone, Eating A Tub Of Ben And Jerrys, While Hiding The Shameful Evidence Of Your Misdeeds In The Laundry Basket... Or In (expired on 2017-11-28 21:00:00).

With Thirteen Alive, Seven Votes Are Required To Lynch.

Seeking Replacement For Katyusha.

[Transcend]

Welp

[KidAmn]

Depending On The Length Of Time Required To Find A Replacement, And Given The Proportion Of Players Replacing In, A Short Deadline Extension Will Be Considered. Player Input Is Welcomed: I Need Something Funny To Print On This Next Lot Of Custom Toilet Roll.

[schadd_]

will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita