Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3475 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:52 am

Why is Kiyo considered a counter wagon to you then?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3476 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:53 am

In post 3358, MariaR wrote:Lady Lambdadelta (3) - Izuru Kamukura, Korekiyo Shinguji, Almost50

3 votes is considered one.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3477 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:53 am

But that wasn't to you?

cytheflyguy · Post Post #3478 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:56 am

In post 3464, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 3462, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 3452, Kokichi Oma wrote:Hebichan, Kaede, Crows. Vote Miu already.
What makes you think im going to vote Miu?
You're not going to vote me over her. And I think she's the only viable wagon right now.

She's voted for you like 3 times over once against Miu. This is faulty logic.

In post 3469, Kokichi Oma wrote:No, that I see nothing from her scum game that is different from her town game. So, I must rely on something that's not meta. Which is my read from this game, which I've explained already. Which leads me to believe she's scum. I've read both town and scum games from her.

This is also faulty logic. If he acts the same regardless of alignment, and he acts the same here, how does that make it his scum game? You don't know, do you? If there is truly no difference that you can detect, as you have stated, you are taking a 50/50 shot of how he flips. You can't say "I've done meta and can't detect a difference, so even though he acts the same here, I'll still scum read him." How does this make sense?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3479 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:57 am

In post 3478, cytheflyguy wrote:This is also faulty logic. If he acts the same regardless of alignment, and he acts the same here, how does that make it his scum game? You don't know, do you?

By. His. Play. And. Not. Meta.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3480 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:58 am

Like you answered my question in your question. How can you honestly post something like that and think it's smart to post. I know you're scum, but you need to make better posts if you want people to think you're not scum.

Wisdom · Post Post #3481 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:06 am

i pity the people who dont see how blatantly obvious scum kokichi is

cytheflyguy · Post Post #3482 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:19 am

In post 3479, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 3478, cytheflyguy wrote:This is also faulty logic. If he acts the same regardless of alignment, and he acts the same here, how does that make it his scum game? You don't know, do you?

By. His. Play. And. Not. Meta.

In post 3480, Kokichi Oma wrote:Like you answered my question in your question. How can you honestly post something like that and think it's smart to post. I know you're scum, but you need to make better posts if you want people to think you're not scum.

Oh my god. How do you not see how wrong you are? You defended your stance from the meta by saying that you couldn't tell either way. So "by his play" in this game, that is the same every other fucking game, you deem this to be scummy. If you know his meta, and this is the same as his meta, then you should know that the argument holds no water.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #3483 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:27 am

In post 3481, Wisdom wrote:i pity the people who dont see how blatantly obvious scum kokichi is

Ouch.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #3484 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:28 am

In all seriousness im most likely voting Kokichi.

Almost50 · Post Post #3485 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:31 am

In post 3482, cytheflyguy wrote:
In post 3479, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 3478, cytheflyguy wrote:This is also faulty logic. If he acts the same regardless of alignment, and he acts the same here, how does that make it his scum game? You don't know, do you?

By. His. Play. And. Not. Meta.

In post 3480, Kokichi Oma wrote:Like you answered my question in your question. How can you honestly post something like that and think it's smart to post. I know you're scum, but you need to make better posts if you want people to think you're not scum.
Oh my god. How do you not see how wrong you are? You defended your stance from the meta by saying that you couldn't tell either way. So "by his play" in this game, that is the same every other fucking game, you deem this to be scummy. If you know his meta, and this is the same as his meta, then you should know that the argument holds no water.

In other words, if Miu's play is scummy and is also his meta, for you to scum read him for his play is saying he rolls scum in each and every game he plays.

This is the way Miu plays regardless of alignment. Period.

Disclaimer: Miu's play is NOT even scummy to me, aside from his meta. If he played like this in any given game I'd be TRing him for it with no meta references whatsoever.

Miu Iruma · Post Post #3486 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:11 pm

Kobitchi’s urgency to lynch me has gone way up since Kiyo was floated as a c/w

Crows · Post Post #3487 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:13 pm

I don't think I'll be looking at this game till a bit later tbh

Korekiyo Shinguji · Post Post #3488 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:15 pm

^^^^Same here. Exam.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3489 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:28 pm

In post 3484, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:In all seriousness im most likely voting Kokichi.

Vote me then so I can self hammer and be out of this cancer of a game. I've already tried. If my top townread can't see I'm town, then I'll just go.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3490 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:30 pm

If I self hammer, please lynch Cy tomorrow. Deal?

Miu Iruma · Post Post #3491 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:31 pm

Oh look, AtE for Kaede who is susceptible to AtE

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #3492 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:32 pm

Okay, and then vig Miu if there is a vig.

Dunnstral · Post Post #3493 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:22 pm

VC 1.11

Kokichi Oma (5) - Wisdom, Miu Iruma, cytheflyguy, hebichan, Almost50
Miu Iruma (3) - Lady Lambdadelta, Kokichi Oma, Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta (1) - Korekiyo Shinguji
Korekiyo Shinguji (1) - Izuru Kamukura

Not voting (3) - Shuiichi Saihara, Kaede Akamatsu, Crows

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline ends in: (expired on 2017-12-11 18:30:00)

Korekiyo Shinguji · Post Post #3494 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 3481, Wisdom wrote:i pity the people who dont see how blatantly obvious scum kokichi is

I'd respond to this but I know the answer would be "that's because you're scum with him", and if I wanted to have a repetitive if entertaining conversation I would look elsewhere.
I'm busy so I'll be ducking my head over here for a bit. Looking forward to Shuichi.

Kokichi: If you're town, don't self. It doesn't do any good.

Almost50 · Post Post #3495 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:16 pm

In post 3494, Korekiyo Shinguji wrote:Kokichi: If you're town, don't self. It doesn't do any good.

I would have rathered you voted him and see if he's really do it, cuz all I get from him is deceptive AtE. Oh, well. You really aren't giving me much to explain why I TR you. I still do, but ...

cytheflyguy · Post Post #3496 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:25 pm

In post 3495, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3494, Korekiyo Shinguji wrote:Kokichi: If you're town, don't self. It doesn't do any good.
I would have rathered you voted him and see if he's really do it, cuz all I get from him is deceptive AtE. Oh, well. You really aren't giving me much to explain why I TR you. I still do, but ...

Just vote for him lol. I call his bluff.

cytheflyguy · Post Post #3497 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:25 pm

I mean that at Korekiyo

Crows · Post Post #3498 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:33 pm

Ok
so 140 pages is a lot for D1.
and tbh
I am probably just going to hammer whatever gets to L-1.

I'll try to post a bit during class
because my SW class is boring as fuck
but this is my stance on things atm.

We kinda need a flip so...

Korekiyo Shinguji · Post Post #3499 (ISO) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:36 pm

And if he really did it?
I've had the experience of voting someone I thought was scum to L-1 only for them to lynch themselves there and flip town. It was obscenely frustrating, and I didn't expect it. If he's lying about selfing, then good. If he's not, then the situation is not ideal. Granted, I don't really buy that he would, but still. I've decided to wait for Shuichi and I intend to.

As for townreading me, I'm not sure what it is you want me to "give you", Almost. I'm not playing in order to look town, it's just something that seems to happen with the right players reading me. Evidently it hasn't happened that way this game yet, but it is what it is. I'll hit my stride eventually. In the meantime I hope to actually contribute something to the game rather than being satisfied with floating along, which as I'm writing this I probably haven't done. And if Kokichi flips scum then it's even more of a disappointment that I was swayed from hammering.

Maybe waiting is pointless. I don't see myself voting Miu. As much as I can't articulate it and don't feel like trying right now as I'm not sure it would matter, she looks town.