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mozamis Jack of All Trades
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You said you had real reasons that he was scum, rather than it just being a lurker lynch. Even if you don't still think he's scum, what were those reasons?In post 702, mozamis wrote:@ Cult: Zulfy is no longer my top scum read, I dont see the point of that post you are referring to?-
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ah the invetibale frustrated scum "OMGUS" - attack is best form of defence, eh?!In post 701, CultOfAthena wrote:Given that nobody seems to be picking up on what I've been saying, I'll say it a little more explicitly - mozamis is scum.
Done it myself.
Although you give yourself away lol "no one seesm to be picking up on what I'm saying" i.e the SHADE I'VE BEEN THROWING lolYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I'm not sure why you take this as some kind of development - I've been voting you since the start of the day.In post 704, mozamis wrote:
ah the invetibale frustrated scum "OMGUS" - attack is best form of defence, eh?!In post 701, CultOfAthena wrote:Given that nobody seems to be picking up on what I've been saying, I'll say it a little more explicitly - mozamis is scum.
Done it myself.
Although you give yourself away lol "no one seesm to be picking up on what I'm saying" i.e the SHADE I'VE BEEN THROWING lol
To you, what's the difference between pointing out scum and shade throwing?-
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1) he still could be scum, altho he's some way behind you, Laser, and Cy .In post 703, CultOfAthena wrote:You said you had real reasons that he was scum, rather than it just being a lurker lynch. Even if you don't still think he's scum, what were those reasons?
2) I didn't like Archer, so i guess i was biased against Zulfy when he replaced in. If you look back, i think Archer was my top scum read early on.
3) when he did replace in, he came out with one or 2 lurkery prod dodge posts which didnt look great.
3) Then he lurked.
All of which added up to the scum read.
However, once he started posting more, he seemed much more honest - that thing about his wallet getting stolen sounded honest.
So he is probably town.
I appreciate it's your job to make mountains out of molehills, but people change their reads the WHOLE time in mafia - you'll have to do better than thisYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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shit, my bad i thought that was you voting me.In post 706, CultOfAthena wrote:I've been voting you since the start of the day.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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@ Luca I learned a hard lesson from a game recently that conf town doesnt mean infallible. So I'm trying to keep an open mind here. Cult has been my instinct read here for awhile, partially in part because of the way they fight back so much against you to the point of it being an attempt to discredit and still spread doubt that you might be scum.-
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Moz I'm trying to support you on cult wagon here and you make this scummy flip flop explanation on the Zulfy slot. You read him as probably town now? wtf? Move that down to null until he is pushing something.In post 709, mozamis wrote:
1) he still could be scum, altho he's some way behind you, Laser, and Cy .In post 703, CultOfAthena wrote:You said you had real reasons that he was scum, rather than it just being a lurker lynch. Even if you don't still think he's scum, what were those reasons?
2) I didn't like Archer, so i guess i was biased against Zulfy when he replaced in. If you look back, i think Archer was my top scum read early on.
3) when he did replace in, he came out with one or 2 lurkery prod dodge posts which didnt look great.
3) Then he lurked.
All of which added up to the scum read.
However, once he started posting more, he seemed much more honest - that thing about his wallet getting stolen sounded honest.
So he is probably town.
I appreciate it's your job to make mountains out of molehills, but people change their reads the WHOLE time in mafia - you'll have to do better than this-
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It's telling that this is your number one reason.In post 709, mozamis wrote:
1) he still could be scum, altho he's some way behind you, Laser, and Cy .In post 703, CultOfAthena wrote:You said you had real reasons that he was scum, rather than it just being a lurker lynch. Even if you don't still think he's scum, what were those reasons?
All of this sounds really suspiciously like "lurker lynch" to me. Either you're lying now or you were lying then about having real reasons.2) I didn't like Archer, so i guess i was biased against Zulfy when he replaced in. If you look back, i think Archer was my top scum read early on.
3) when he did replace in, he came out with one or 2 lurkery prod dodge posts which didnt look great.
3) Then he lurked.
All of which added up to the scum read.
However, once he started posting more, he seemed much more honest - that thing about his wallet getting stolen sounded honest.
So he is probably town.
Nice discrediting without making any sort of concrete statement. What I've been doing isn't shade throwing -I appreciate it's your job to make mountains out of molehills, but people change their reads the WHOLE time in mafia - you'll have to do better than thisthisis shade throwing.
Yes, townies change their mind all the time in mafia,naturally. Your progression is fake.-
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Woah, there's a massive disconnect between those two sentences. Like, the central ideas of those two sentences areIn post 711, Lucky2u wrote:@ Luca I learned a hard lesson from a game recently that conf town doesnt mean infallible. So I'm trying to keep an open mind here. Cult has been my instinct read here for awhile, partially in part because of the way they fight back so much against you to the point of it being an attempt to discredit and still spread doubt that you might be scum.completelyin opposition.-
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explain?In post 714, CultOfAthena wrote:
Woah, there's a massive disconnect between those two sentences. Like, the central ideas of those two sentences areIn post 711, Lucky2u wrote:@ Luca I learned a hard lesson from a game recently that conf town doesnt mean infallible. So I'm trying to keep an open mind here. Cult has been my instinct read here for awhile, partially in part because of the way they fight back so much against you to the point of it being an attempt to discredit and still spread doubt that you might be scum.completelyin opposition.-
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Ah, I see. That's not what I meant, but I can see it read that way. The first statement is that I'm trying not to have blind confidence in conf town reads, not their conf status. The second statement was explaining how I am scum reading you for trying to undermine Luca's conf town status. Two different thingsIn post 716, CultOfAthena wrote:First, you talk about how you're placing less confidence in conftowns. Then, you say you suspect me because of my efforts to get people to place less confidence in conftowns.-
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No, thank you. What's the benefit to leaving discussion to tomorrow?In post 719, Luca Blight wrote:Athena, you should join me in voting LaserGuy.
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I think some of your points can be conf bias like the assumption that he was baiting athena with 426 (and that point only works if Laser is scum and athena is not so it's taking an extra leap there). 435 is not scummy in and of itself, and you again make a larger than I'm comfortable leap in the assumption of motivation. The scummiest things he's done was to paint the interactions we had as some kind of scum theater and try to push a PL on Zulfy. For that alone I can leave him at lean scum. I'd rather have Athena though.In post 717, Luca Blight wrote:Lucky, what are your thoughts on LaserGuy?
Do you agree/disagree with the points I made against him?-
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Who said anything about that? You're ignoring all of my points on mozamis today, with the point that they can be discussed tomorrow. Why wait until tomorrow to discuss them?In post 722, Luca Blight wrote:What's the benefit of letting LaserGuy off the hook for free?-
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I didn't say she was, this one just feels right.In post 720, Luca Blight wrote:Lucky, Athena isn't the only one to have undermined my 'conf town status'.-
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Because we can only lynch one person per day, and I'd rather not lose focus on what we have in front of us for something that can be dealt with at a later time.In post 724, CultOfAthena wrote:
Who said anything about that? You're ignoring all of my points on mozamis today, with the point that they can be discussed tomorrow. Why wait until tomorrow to discuss them?In post 722, Luca Blight wrote:What's the benefit of letting LaserGuy off the hook for free?
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