Look after yourself, nancy!
Jabarkas Mayonnaise wrote:I kind of hate your vague 'casing' and the fact you'll double down with being clear, but, lol, not right now, gotta spend some time to make sure you sound real town when you explain your scum push.
Maybe instead of casing me out, you can address the questions and comments addressed to you, then you could maybe weigh in on any one of the dozen other things happening in this game rather than trying to recoup game momentum into an anti-Jabarkus push.
-V
I can't post on buses, I get motion sickness, you're lucky you got what you did. I prefer to be thorough rather than posting off the cuff, because that's when my reads get really bad. I've already said this. I don't know why you'd expect otherwise.
And no, I don't think I'm going to just dismiss my scumread on you just because you threw an absolute hissy and claimed you were somehow being persecuted for "playing the game". That was after... two votes on you? You signed up to a micro with two week deadlines, my friend. It sounds like the level of activity you want would be more blitz-style, but hey that's not really my interest here. I don't have a great sense of game momentum, and the idea that you'd think it has relevance on my pushes at this point is kind of perplexing to me anyway.
I'll search for Key* and Yeti* and see if I catch all the questions for me, and then I'll go through your ISO to explain my scumread on you so you can stop spinning it in such bizarre ways (though I'll accept some of the blame for that - I should have caught those misconceptions as they arose and not let them fester for so long), and then I'll get the sleep I really need because I'm running on empty. How is that?
Okay, first, questions. The only thing addressed to me since my last post appears to be your own
390. It sounded like there would be more from the way you put it, did I miss something you wanted me to respond to?
In post 390, Jabarkas Mayonnaise wrote:@Yetichain: I don't see that the meaning is changed significantly, just your interpretation of it which, hey, that's the point of elaboration, is it not?
I don't know why Xiao's posted all of, like, one or two times, though he's not nearly as vocal a player as I am. I can give him a bit of a shakeup and tell him to engage with the game if you want, but, y'know, I'm here now, so why even deflect like that to my hydra partner. In fact, why even say something like, "Is your hydra buddy around? Are they half as scummy as you?"
Also, you're literally fucking wrong about the 'raging about the gamestate' bullshit that you're putting out, because it's very obvious within just the last two pages, based on my actions and the reactions of others, that the game state HAS changed dramatically. So, y'know, maybe don't literally deny the reality of the situation in order to spout a platitude to defend a vote you have and give platform to the replace-in who's parroting you and yes-manning your wagon.
-V
No, the point of me asking you to elaborate is because I thought the approach you were coming from was wonky and rather than you going "oh yes this is why I think the way I do" and either reaffirming it or visibly changing your mind, you appeared to retcon it to something more reasonable. Sketchy.
Secondly, I enjoy playing in hydras and I find the dynamics really interesting, which was why I asked after your partner. Plus I've not played with him before and I do like meeting new players. I did note he voiced a townread on me in
452 and you voted me despite that in
488, but I've no idea if it's AI for you two.
Re: raging about the gamestate bullshit... wow. That fury, isn't it just so warm and friendly and very like someone who is hunting for scum and not completely flipping out at getting scumread? Yeah I didn't think so either
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That said, it's not always AI, sometimes townies get their counterproductive rage on. So I'll look at the pages you were referring to because there's nothing like a bit of evidence to clear this kind of thing up.
Okay. So it seems the activity pg14 was Porkens and NK15, then things went quiet. The thing is that every single one of your posts around here is super amiable, including the ones where I was trying to prompt you into something by asking questions. It was weird to me and kind of like I was sliding off glass so I might have made a bit of a more antagonistic comment to see if I could goad you into something.
Your
370 was instep with Porkens's
368. And this is where I mean you're going after lurkers instead of engaging any of the perfectly nice players already hanging around. Lurker pressure is such an easy way to look town - after all, you're "generating content"! But in reality you've already passed up opportunities to engage, and you're zeroing in on a place where you're least likely to get anything.
You say in
375 that you're doing it because you don't have any way to read Acid without content. Fair. But that presumes you already had a read on all the more active players - otherwise, why weren't you focusing on
them
? It looked like you were waiting for a more easy push, and Porkens paved the way.
Then
376... I hate buzzwords so I'll avoid the one I want to use here but you use your push on a lurker to put yourself on a pedestal instead of
engaging the flaming active players.
You do like a complete 180 in tone and it's bizarre. You go from pleasant and not making waves to suddenly thrashing about all over the place. You're not making anything happen. North votes you shortly after and you continue this rage. Not much of note happens between that and the question you directed to me - in particular, a lack of any content from Acid which is where you were pushing - where you claim credit for things happening in the earlier pages despite the fact that your raging had actually appeared that very page. The only thing that happened was North voting you.
So in summary... you appear to be literally denying the reality of the situation to discredit scumreads on you, and if you disagree I'd rather you provide evidence instead of more of whatever this was. And don't get your knickers in a twist over me approving of a vote on my scumread, like what game are you playing mate? This is mafia and I want my scumreads lynched or at least under pressure, not lightly jostled. I need to take a closer look at North because I think as scum she'd absolutely follow my push on replace in, but those are separate things. In the meantime, why don't you scumhunt instead of focusing on scrapping with players scumreading you?
Oh it seems I condensed most of my explanation of my scumread of you into my answer to your question. That's probably good, I've probably written enough words for now. I've got more stuff to say and do in this game tomorrow, I need to get a better picture of the whole table before I go any further with this scumread. I'm feeling energetic. Isn't that nice?
-Key