an avatar has a sub conscious effect in how I read people yes. IDK about anyone else. but I was making a joke though. I'm not glorifying your first question with an answerIn post 723, UC Voyager wrote:do you think that an avatar could effect your chances of being scum?
do you think that avatar's have a sub-conscious effect on your and other people's reads?
how does this read genuine to you jodax? what part of calling people bad and then randomly suggesting one of 3 players needs to be lynched 155 posts into the game is genuine? IDK how much of this is superior perspective knowing my alignment, but beef looks towny as well and I'm not very confident screen is scum. I actually think his reaction to being put in L-1, especially the post to tchill I quoted here early was actually genuine. you're reading one of most disingenuine posts up until this point as 'pretty genuine', it feels random. your beef push feels random as well. you're not interacting with tchill, you're not trying to understand what in the name of jebus this guy is doing here. I don't like this one bit actually.In post 176, Jodaxq wrote:This feels pretty genuine to me. Tchill has been weird this game for sure, but I am leaning town.In post 155, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah havo is definitely newb scum. I'm glad we've got a game full of Sherlocks here. One of beef, odd or screen needs to be lynched. Could Lynch the guy that refuses to use vote tags but I was down for a Lynch on anyone other than me on page 2.
And I thought you had it. Oh well.In post 421, Havo wrote:Ahh I was hoping you would see it.
Very nice. There’s a reason you will become Shogun.
that makes sense, thank youIn post 729, HeWhoSwims wrote:@Tora that sentence from #100 was me saying I saw the reason Odd was being suspected but that it wasn't enough for me to change votes or suspect him that much yet.
reading up til this point, tchill hasn't actually given reasons for much and his behaviour isn't one of trying to solve the game in any way, but rather just cast shade and push people right and left until someone gets lynched. doesn't help that most of the people he is pushing here, I'm reading as towny. I gotta run this over with maki on whether this is a wrong antitown villager or just scum, but I can see how I was leaning towards the latter in my first read up on this game and that's where I'm leaning again the second time around.In post 211, Tchill13 wrote:just because you see my reasons as inaccurate doesn't mean they factually are inaccurate. so you can attempt to discredit elsewhere. i have good reasoning and will not argue it with those that refuse to listen.
In post 500, Tchill13 wrote:In post 445, Tchill13 wrote:Ok. Pushed me for L-1. Threw or agreed with shade against me for my screen compliment in another game, pushed me for high horse attitude. If anyone falls underneath these categories you're a scum lean. If you fall under all 3 you're scum. You know what scum love more than anything? Any cases against people that are actually town that make sense, are easy to push with fake ambition and make the one pushing the case look towny. All 3 of those reasons apply to that philosophy. That being said I'll leave it up to all the other players to distinguish who falls into those categories and if that philosophy is worth working with. The players that it doesn't apply to of course.
In post 657, Tchill13 wrote:Never forget.In post 27, oddmusic wrote:^ I don’t like this reaction to being wagonned early. If screenplay were town I would expect more confusion than...annoyance I guess.
And no screen we don’t have enough to lynch you. But for an early wagon out of the random stages making 2 entirely contentless posts is a good start
I think this is a villagery post, giving the effort to read into the 4 players in tchill's 'lynch pool' and then townreading 3 out of 4. I see genuine gamesolving behaviour from HWS and I like where his thoughts are on these slots. still a little too safe but some thoughts here seem independent and in general I'm not reading this slot as having any sort of scum motivation.In post 220, HeWhoSwims wrote:Let's look into these.In post 206, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum in (Dave, beef, screen, odd)
Dave - Just talked about him, I don't think his actions warrant a scumread from me for now as the game is young.
Beef - Hard to read. I talked about him flipping votes between Tchill and oddmusic early on and I'm honestly not too sure what to make of that but I lean towards keeping an open mind which is pro town. However there is stuff like his reaction to Havo in 154. But afterwards questions others, argues for a longer day which I would find logical (more intel and I honestly doubt PRs suffer under it? Unexperienced though). And he posts his reads which is good I think. My mind says nulltown but my heart says null somehow because some stuff seems weird and I don't know with which of those two to go for now.
Screen - For now my top suspect out of these four. Looking at his iso I feel like most of his posts aren't contributing that much (although he has okay content like 52). Samples in 40 47 75 129, and I'm also not sure what to think of him suggesting giving Havo a free pass since I'm not getting big town vibes from him either for similar reasons.
Odd - On second thought still a tad suspicious for having few posts and that whole reaction-to-srceen post. However his train of thought in 66 seems towny for me. Needs to contribute more.
this is also towny. I like that HWS never joined the screen wagon when everyone was pushing for it.In post 226, HeWhoSwims wrote:We don't get info from day one but, we can lynch screen since he apparently is scum. Ah. Got it.
You can read the targets alignment by observing how they react to being listed in a "one of these is scum" list with no foundation.In post 713, Toranaga wrote:dave in this post, if I recall correctly neither beef nor oddmusic were wagoning screenplay, and you're reading into it that maybe scum!tchill is trying to make villagers go against each other cause they're scared of the conditional read being created here, yes?In post 106, davesaz wrote:There is certainly a potential scum motivation for a post like this. I lean toward not saying what it makes me think of, to see if anyone else comes up with it.In post 60, Tchill13 wrote:well im telling you rn theres 1 scum between beef, oddmusic and screenplay... at LEAST one scum that is.
It's weak anyway, and there are valid town reasons too.
what are the valid town reasons you're seeing for this, though?
OMG!In post 738, Toranaga wrote:vote: tchill
not surprised if it flips green but reads as scum and needs to die imo
are you scumreading both me and maki because I'm voting someone you don't agree with? because we'd have to both be scum for her to confirm my claim, and she'd have to have planned the claim with odd beforehand given how she was reading him.In post 739, Havo wrote:OMG!In post 738, Toranaga wrote:vote: tchill
not surprised if it flips green but reads as scum and needs to die imo
VOTE: Toranaga
Mason my ass.
I don’t believe the mason claim. No.In post 740, Toranaga wrote:are you scumreading both me and maki because I'm voting someone you don't agree with? because we'd have to both be scum for her to confirm my claim, and she'd have to have planned the claim with odd beforehand given how she was reading him.In post 739, Havo wrote:OMG!In post 738, Toranaga wrote:vote: tchill
not surprised if it flips green but reads as scum and needs to die imo
VOTE: Toranaga
Mason my ass.
just hm think about this a little.
For once, I sort of agree with you. The fact that he's using his mason claim to do whatever he wants is unsettling. I'm beginning to second-guess the mason claim.In post 732, Tchill13 wrote:Toras slot is scum read. He comes in takes control of the game. Belittles those that don't agree with him. Speaks highly of those who do. Hmm...
I'm trying to solve though. what's your read on tchill?In post 744, Beefster wrote:For once, I sort of agree with you. The fact that he's using his mason claim to do whatever he wants is unsettling. I'm beginning to second-guess the mason claim.In post 732, Tchill13 wrote:Toras slot is scum read. He comes in takes control of the game. Belittles those that don't agree with him. Speaks highly of those who do. Hmm...