In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Also within post
271, she votes for pisskop also with little justification. Even when asked to elaborate on her pisskop vote she decided to sheep on the reason that he should be lynched because he wasn't contributing much. Basically, she wanted to lynch pisskop because she policy lynches lurkers. I would have appreciated her to specifically say that at the time but alas she insisted that we read other people's opinions as her own.
QQ, viomi didn't explain the obvious to me..
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:I also don't think policy lynching lurkers is the best idea, but perhaps that's just because I'm more tolerant of lurking. But the additional thing here is that she was scum reading read me, yet she was voting for pisskop based on policy? Surely, if you want what's best for town you would want your scum reads lynched first instead of people you just want dead by policy?
QQ, I don't understand policy lynching..
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:But instead of remaining on the wagon she genuinely thought was scum, she decided to sheep and jump on the growing bandwagon with little to no justification. Overall, her jump from my wagon to pisskop's with poor justification felt like Viomi just wanted a lynch and didn't really care who it was.
Still not understanding policy lynches..
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:It also gives me the implication that Viomi's stance on my wagon was forced and likely came from scum wanting to blend in with the rest of the townies. After all, I was obviously scum at the time and anyone who said otherwise was simply my scum buddy like Creature.
Uh, yeah no, you were being a scummy piece of shit by demanding PRs roleclaim. Lmfao.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:In post
352 Viomi quotes Aster and then votes for them. At no point does she ever clarify why she is voting for them. The only benefit to this vote is that it at least wasn't sheeped. But again, the lack of justification just made the vote seem unnatural.
QQ again, viomi linking a scummy post that set off red flags which is CLEARLY WHAT THAT POST MEANS.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:She formatted the post in a way that we are supposed to understand why she is voting based on what Aster said. This gives a certain level of ambiguity and leaves the read on Aster up to interpretation.
Yes, so up for interpretation.. I wonder what read I would've had on Aster at that point in the game if I voted for them... Hrmmmm.....
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Viomi has consistently done this throughout the game so that when we get her opinion we take the blame for it. I think this is a very scummy way to play. It's important that your opinions are clear so that you are more readable but Viomi refuses to make things easier for us when it comes to understanding her opinions; this gives me the impression that she is hiding something. And that something clearly isn't a PR.
QQ, I don't understand things and Viomi getting annoyed with having to handhold me means she's scum somehow..
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Post
398: the information that was supposed to be gained from my lynch was never explained by neither Viomi nor anyone else making that claim. Furthermore, she states that my wagon was "shut down". It wasn't shut down, it fell apart by the number of people jumping off of my wagon and onto pisskop's. Viomi was a part of that yet blames others for my wagon falling apart.
Information was obvious, you had a bunch of people on you and then waffle off of you. You were making bold demands to get PRs to claim. Clearly there was information to gain from your flip. I didn't leave your wagon, I was dealing with a policy lynch and then got a tad distracted by red flags from Aster, admittedly, but..
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote: In post 482, Viomi wrote:It's a good thing my meta as scum is to try very hard and be motivated then isn't it
This was said by Viomi on day 1. Kinda sounds like how day 2 Viomi has been acting in comparison :3. It's undeniable that since day 1 Viomi's activity has stepped up and she seems more motivated. Just sayin'.
Already replied to this, but just to get another word in.. I try very hard when I get annoyed. I get annoyed more often as scum, admittedly, but you all refusing to read my posts tends to be somewhat infuriating at times.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:
I'm sure post
398 makes it clear that Viomi would prefer me to be lynched since she actually scum reads me. So why is she voting pisskop?
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Policy_Lynch
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Because at this stage the "oh my god he's role fishing he must be scum!!" hype had died down and pisskop seemed more likely to be lynched. I think this is again proving that Viomi didn't really care who got lynched.
PL
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote: In post 521, Viomi wrote: In post 520, pisskop wrote:i cant believe we've stopped hunting and arr Still riding the 'but the troll hurt meh feelz' wave.
I can't believe the lurker troll who has done 0 scumhunting is complaining about people not scumhunting
This is where Viomi's hypocrisy begins. At this point in the game, all Viomi had done was place some votes and give a few snarky comments. That is not scum hunting, it is sheeping. She had no right to criticise others for not scum hunting when, at this stage in the game, she had not done any herself.
Replied to this already, but I'll reply again: You can criticize someone for being hypocritical and it doesn't make you hypocritical as well. Notice how you are doing just that? You are criticizing me for criticizing pisskop for not scumhunting when I wasn't scumhunting, even though you don't scumhunt. Isn't that ironic?
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Does anyone actually believe that post
628 was actually a reaction test on Chip? Like what fucking bs. I feel like this was more Viomi backtracking on her Chip read after feeling strong OMGUS against him that caused her to realise he was genuinely scummy. And let's just say Viomi was actually scum reading Chip and wanted to see his reaction to her town reading him. What would that have hoped to achieve? He basically said nothing scummy before she was like "aha, gotcha" and I see no reason why she had to lie about her read on Chip. Overall, regardless of whether she was reaction testing or not, this whole thing feels forced and fabricated.
This'll be so good to rub in your face after this game
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:In posts
628-
629 she criticises sheeping yet this is exactly what she had been doing most of the game. In
631 she also criticises Chip for not actually giving an opinion when she had failed to properly give her opinion with her votes several times before. Viomi has just been consistently a hypocrite throughout this game.
Again, my reasons for all of my votes were obvious. The one on you was obvious, the Policy Lynch on pisskop was explained, and I quoted the post Aster made that made me vote him. This is blatant misrepresentation and you seem to love to keep pushing the same narrative even though I've replied to this bullshit from Lalendra already. Why are you two pushing identical points? B a a a a h?
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote: In post 655, Viomi wrote:You're not pressuring me or gaining any information from me with this wagon. Why? Because every single one of you fuckers sheeped without any reasons to add on. I have responded to everything that you claim I did scummy, and explained exactly why you're wrong and asked for clarification on why you think said actions are scummy. Your response is to refuse to participate in the conversation and give us more information, to not make a case, and to continue blindly sheep because you don't actually have reasons and don't actually care who's lynched, scumbag.
I feel like a lot of this quote describes how Viomi was acting on day 1. So now we have day 1 Viomi giving a reason why day 2 Viomi is scummy and day 2 Viomi giving a reason why day 1 Viomi is scummy. Are we sure we are actually playing with the same person here? Because something overnight 1 has suddenly motivated Viomi to be more active and helpful and it makes me suspicious. If I was to look at day 2 Viomi in isolation then I'd be looking at a lot more of a townie player. But since what Viomi says day 2 contrasts with what she did day 1 I feel that, despite agreeing with a fair few of her recent opinions, she is incredibly scummy and just generally a bad presence in the town.
Tbh I was having trouble keeping motivated to keep in the game D1. I had a way cooler game going on, you guys were mostly lurking and sheeping around so I kinda joined the party. Yeah, 'twas pretty scummy, honestly. But then that game ended and pisskop isn't in this game anymore (thank
heavens
).
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote: In post 698, Viomi wrote: In post 696, CommKnight wrote:Yeah, no. I already gave my reason. Gunning for the top draft order is most likely to hit town PRs or at the very least out them for scum to kill. No town motivation at all to push for that D2 before we even nab one scum for a better picture on who in the top draft we should be pushing.
Oh, and where was I gunning for texcat? That's why my vote has never been on him (that I remember), right? There's
no
way you could be misrepresenting my actions or behaviors, because only scum would do that, right?
I think it's fairly obvious at this point that Viomi has, at the very least, a scum lean on texcat. I don't get why she would be denying this here.
Try reading that post again. I do not deny any scumread on texcat. But there's a difference between scumreading someone and "gunning for them". Especially since I had only posted about them a couple times at that point. Stop misrepping me.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Post
724 Viomi states that she would genuinely like someone to make a case against her so she can reply to it. Post
734 Lalendra makes a case against her. Post
737 Viomi basically sticks her middle finger up to Lalendra's post and refused to reply to the points.
Well yeah, because her case was fucking stupid. It was literally blatant lies and misrepresentations, as I pointed out in my rebuttal which, of course. Lalendra
never
replied to.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Eventually, I did get her to refute the points but only after a bit of back and forth. Additionally, in one of my posts that asks her to reply to Lalendra's case, I specifically said this:
In post 768, mutantdevle wrote:And don't give the "you're not reading my posts" bs; if you think you have already refuted a point, then quote/link the post where you do so.
Her response was this:
In post 791, Viomi wrote:Oh, and while you're at it, r e a d my fucking p o s t s.
I've already replied to most of the points made by Lalendra before she made them, which she and you would've known if you'd just read. My. Posts.
She did exactly the thing I specifically asked her not to do...
This is my favorite part, oh boy! *ahem*
"WAAAAH! VIOMI DIDN'T DO WHAT I TOLD HER TO DO! SHE WASN'T A GOOD GIRL AND SHE DIDN'T BEHAVE AND PLAY BALL WITH SCUM! SHE DIDN'T MAKE MY JOB EASY, I HAD TO ACTUALLY READ HER POSTS WHICH I WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ANYWAYS IF I WAS TOWN TRYING TO HUNT SCUM, BUT I'M NOT! SO NOW I'M GOING TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE
SHE'S
SCUMMY FOR NOT DOING WHAT I SAID AND HOLDING MY HAND!
BOO-HOOOOOO
"
You're right! I should change the "And by shut up I mean stop posting lame bullshit and actually do something to help us find scum please." in my signature to "And by read my posts I mean stop posting lame bullshit and actually do something to help us find scum please."
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:She is ignorant to the fact that she does not explain her opinion properly and chooses to blame others for their misunderstanding.
Nobody seems to have this issue but you. Aster seems to understand me just fine, Cheeky has seemed to get my opinion pretty easily, Kidamn has, even CK has even though he has thought I'm scum for most of today. Soooo.....
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:This deflection of responsibility strikes me as super scummy. Any normal townie would want to make their points and opinions clear but Viomi chooses to remain ambiguous. Upon calls from us to clarify her statements, she will almost always tell us to read her posts as though we are to blame for the confusion.
It's almost as if I'm telling you to read my posts because maybe,
just maybe, those posts already have
the answers to your exact questions.
If you had been reading my posts, you wouldn't have come up with those questions
in the first place.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:If you read post
724, Viomi makes it clear that she has responded to
most
of Lalendra's points. Viomi is, again, purposely ambiguous here and never actually states which points she refers to by 'most'. I think the reason for that is she doesn't actually know which points she considers being answered under 'most' as this post was made only to deflect Lalendra's concerns rather than refute them.
Again, you
DIDN'T READ MY FUCKING POSTS.
I literally replied to most of her points, POINT BY POINT,
LINE BY FUCKING LINE
, and others I left UNANSWERED because they were stupid points. You could've seen with your own FUCKING EYEBALLS which ones I answered if you had READ THE FUCKING POST.
In post 1109, mutantdevle wrote:Viomi is also less of a loss of we make a mistake and I'd argue that Viomi is more anti-town than Comm is.
I love it when one of the most useless, distracting, sidetracking players in the game calls me "less of a loss" and "more anti-town" than CK.