Newbie 1845 - A New Dawn Game Over

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 1.01

Aviqf (1)

sheepsaysmeep ,

Sunset at dawn (1)

RedFlavor ,

sheepsaysmeep (2)

Inferno390 , Sunset at dawn ,

Inferno390 (1)

Sunlit Diamond ,

Creature (1)

Aviqf ,

RedFlavor (1)

SaulJoker ,

Not Voting (2)

Lil Uzi Vert , Creature ,

Day one deadline is Sunday January 21, 12 AM PST. (expired on 2018-01-21 00:00:00)

Mod note: Since I track votes in excel, I usually provide vote counts with links in them. It's a bit unusual compared to most mods, but I consider it a nice service for players. Sometimes I'll phone/ipad post a VC or the like and you won't get links, but usually you will.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[Aviqf]

LUV I’ll ask answer you question once I get back to a PC but I wanted to lose this question to sheep real quick

@Sheep, if you want to wagon me because my posts are “forced”, then you tell Inferno that town force posts too. How do you tell if it’s town or scum?

[Inferno390]

@inferno

how much of 23 do you think was forced?

Why the heck would you ask me this of my own post? Of course I don't think it's forced at all, it's my post!

it is forced. town force post sometimes, this is the response i was expecting scum to make

Wow.
This is probably the strangest start to a 1v1 I'll ever have.
There is so much wrong with this chain of thought I don't know where to begin.
I write the first scumhunting post of the game. Sheep says it's forced. Then sheep asks ME, the writer of the post, if I think MY OWN post is forced. I tell him that I obviously think the post is not forced, because it's MY post. Then Sheep blatantly tells me my opinion is wrong as implies that I'm scum.
The cherry on top? Sheep has been degrearding any attempt as scumhunting in the the game so far, but I haven't seen really any attempts to scumhunt on his own part.

[Inferno390]

i am your temporary substitute ic INACTIVITY =/= LURKING BTW
not that sunset's inactive
not that lurking is a newbtell either

where do you get the "not very sure of herself" from?

I guess I'll vote sheep. It seems kind of weird to want so many votes on red.

Vote: Sheep

I dont think sheep was serious about vote

I said "I am red in this game" and red means scum so that was the scumclaim


Preedit: yes I also found that weird

VOTE: sunset at dawn

Oh. I thought that sheep meant RedFlavor not the scum

Unvote- sheep

I don't know who else seems off yet.

This is where I get it from. These are Sunset's only two posts, and she doesn't put weight behind here posts at all, like she's not really sure what to do.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I actually didn’t see that second post by Sunset. Makes me feel a little better about her.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@inferno

how much of 23 do you think was forced?

I don't think this is what you wanted to say. You are asking inferno if he thinks his own post was forced?

yes that's what i want from him

Why? You essentially asked a rhetorical question. What are you hoping to accomplish?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.

This post looks like shading sheep imo

Could you explain why you felt she was shading sheep here?

Throwing shade is a sneaky way of making someone look bad without committing to it; pointing out something as scummy in a really shallow easy way or trying to sabotage one's reputation through cowardly means. I don't think she was being subtle by any means there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Also, Sunset seems to be lurking quite a bit proportionally and not very sure of herself. Just not very good or newbscum?

You know better than this inferno. Sup.

What’s this all about now?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

sheep, you can literally say anything is forced. It doesn't hold much meaning without explanation.

Why what you’re seeing feels over-done? Why do you feel who you’re accusing is acting in an overwhelming way or behaving strangely?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Guys, talking about your reasoning and thoughts on reads is how games get solved. If you're town in most cases, there's not enough of a downside in being transparent and sharing just about everything you have on your mind with the rest of town to not do it.

[Sunlit Diamond]

LUV: inferno and I played in a game with three lurkers who were all town, and two of them were PRs. He's also shown a marked preference for leaning hard on the wiki. Therefore, in my opinion he should know better than to question activity as a measure of towniness or lack thereof.

[Sunlit Diamond]

Point being: if he knows better, why is he making that comment? And I'd like a response from him.

[Inferno390]

LUV: inferno and I played in a game with three lurkers who were all town, and two of them were PRs. He's also shown a marked preference for leaning hard on the wiki. Therefore, in my opinion he should know better than to question activity as a measure of towniness or lack thereof.

Point being: if he knows better, why is he making that comment? And I'd like a response from him.

I'm actually not leaning on the wiki this game (I learned my lesson last time). My thinking is that Sunset has contributed very little to this game and both her posts seem very unsure. My question is if this is a sign that Sunset is one of the scum and is not sure how to fake scumhunt here. It would explain what seems to me as being a very uncomfortable player with only two posts.

[Sunlit Diamond]

You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.

This post looks like shading sheep imo

Could you explain why you felt she was shading sheep here?

Throwing shade is a sneaky way of making someone look bad without committing to it; pointing out something as scummy in a really shallow easy way or trying to sabotage one's reputation through cowardly means. I don't think she was being subtle by any means there.

Sheep is an orange/red read for me. Given how he was poking and prodding at tone and details in other people's posts, I was expecting a different reaction to my post than I got. Maybe that will change when he gets back.

[Sunlit Diamond]

LUV: inferno and I played in a game with three lurkers who were all town, and two of them were PRs. He's also shown a marked preference for leaning hard on the wiki. Therefore, in my opinion he should know better than to question activity as a measure of towniness or lack thereof.

Point being: if he knows better, why is he making that comment? And I'd like a response from him.

I'm actually not leaning on the wiki this game (I learned my lesson last time). My thinking is that Sunset has contributed very little to this game and both her posts seem very unsure. My question is if this is a sign that Sunset is one of the scum and is not sure how to fake scumhunt here. It would explain what seems to me as being a very uncomfortable player with only two posts.

Arright, I can buy this.

[sheepsaysmeep]

town forces reads to get discussion going and to leave rvs
anywho inferno is omgusing and overreacting hard
VOTE: inferno

avi's questions were forced, the answer was pretty obvious
his reasons feel incredibly forced because most of the reasons for townreads/scumreads arent actual reasons to townread/scumread
saul was barely actually cautious, red was barely actually reckless, he's reaching hard for reasons

[sheepsaysmeep]

92 is like a really reachy read
posting like 10 times in a day isnt lurking

[sheepsaysmeep]

@inferno

which of sunlit's posts seem unsure
they seem natural to me

[Inferno390]

town forces reads to get discussion going and to leave rvs
anywho inferno is omgusing and overreacting hard
VOTE: inferno

avi's questions were forced, the answer was pretty obvious
his reasons feel incredibly forced because most of the reasons for townreads/scumreads arent actual reasons to townread/scumread
saul was barely actually cautious, red was barely actually reckless, he's reaching hard for reasons

How the heck am I OMGUSing you? Heck, I voted for you on the first page before you really said ANYTHING about me. and all I've done is point out the fact that you're negative about all the scumreads and that there is no reason you should read my responses to you as scum.

@inferno

which of sunlit's posts seem unsure
they seem natural to me

SunSET, not SunLIT. I can see this being a major point of confusion in the the upcoming days. (Unless Sheep is just trying to confuse us.)

[Inferno390]

92 is like a really reachy read
posting like 10 times in a day isnt lurking

How is it reachy? Sunset has posted twice and contributed nothing.

[sheepsaysmeep]

sunlit had posted twelve times at the time of that first "lurking" post
lurking is scummy when a player is purposely avoiding the thread, do you think sunlit has been doing that?

[Inferno390]

sunlit had posted twelve times at the time of that first "lurking" post
lurking is scummy when a player is purposely avoiding the thread, do you think sunlit has been doing that?

NOT SUNILT. SUNSET. As in SUNSET AT DAWN.

[sheepsaysmeep]

holy shit im stupid lol

[Inferno390]

holy shit im stupid lol

Okay, so is 92 less reachy now?

[sheepsaysmeep]

ok now this immediate response is scummy lol
i feel like VOTE: avi is a better place for my vote now
i see where youre coming from with not sure of herself, 92 seems fine