Open 709: Masons and Monks (Game Over)
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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If I were thinking that, wouldn't it be rather antitown for someone else to just blurt out that it's what they think I'm thinking?
As for what I'm thinking, it's a "neither confirm nor deny" kinda thing.
Pedit: uh oh, thread's taken off, hope that doesn't mean that I'm gonna fall way behind on all these upcoming days where I have appointments.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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momo Mafia Scum
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so r u scum or town reading arch...so confused....cause I see scum, but you might be towning...idkIn post 145, Mathdino wrote:a lolcase on why archwing wagon is shit
"hello i am scum and i am going to tell everyone that i'm jumping on this LAMIST train by opportunistically defending elsa"In post 51, Archwing wrote:
Just to sort of piggy back this, I did a Mini Normal with Elsa, and this is pretty equivalent to their playstyle - They actually tried to create an entire pre-game narrative. It was rather entertaining. Too much roleplay though.In post 49, mozamis wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 32, Almost50 wrote:You're "strange" not scummy!
yeah it's probably a playstyle thing.
oh wait that's right scum don't literally say they're doing something scummy
"hello i am scum and i'm gonna ask you to help convince everyone that A50 is town"In post 55, Archwing wrote:
Where does your town read on Almost come from?In post 54, mozamis wrote: Moz, Almost, jay town.
oh yeah that's right this is actually a good question which has no utility for scum
LIn post 104, Archwing wrote:Hey, phone posting at work atm, so I will provide more tomorrow when I can get to a computer - sorry for noy being active right now, I usually try to be involved more.
I'd probably wanna scum buddy up with Elsa, cause I like their play style and I think we could have some fun with it.. I haven't really played with much of this list, other than 1 game with Elsa and 1 with Moz.
I find the amount of meta reads going on in the first 5 pages crazy. Like I get that we don't have much to go on, but it seems like that is all everyone is doing. Expect more analysis from me in 24 hrs or so.
UNVOTE: my rvs vote.
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"hello i am scum and i'm going to shit all over the first 5 pages by criticising the meta discussion that i myself took part in and then complain about inability to get into the game"
oh that's right, utter hypocrisy and no clear direction is a towntell, not a scumtell
archwing is a shit wagon, ggTranscend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
TheGoldenParadox- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now-
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Mathdino Survivor
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i'm mocking people who are scumreading arch
arch does things scum rarely do
gimme more reads momo other than the awesome and correct beefster scumread-
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momo Mafia Scum
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dave being too vague=scum lean
jay=town due to reactions
I always read a50 as town
you are playing the same as you always do....when you finally role scum against me Imma get played very hard
talon voted me so omgus
raya just said later
so yea
More details will come with more content I guessTranscend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
TheGoldenParadox- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now-
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Kotoko Utsugi has been prodded.
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momo Mafia Scum
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Shit! Guys scum has something plan..somebody (I'll do it tomorrow if nobody has) scour the thread for every instance of one player defending another in a link going both ways for reasonsIn post 154, numberQ wrote:In post 127, momo wrote:
@mod: Did the scum team get to chat during pre-game?
Yes.Transcend- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
TheGoldenParadox- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now-
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Congratulations, momo.
1. It's been 7 pages, you're not gonna find those associations.
2. 2 players hard defending each other isn't even a scumtell. Chainsaw defending is more likely but still a shit tell.
3. Now you've nulled every instance of that happening going forward because scum knows you're looking for that.
Speedlynching Beefster and canvassing incoming players on thoughts on speedlynching Beefster (and why they're not yet voting Beefster on my awesome lolcase) is a much better way to spend our time imo.
Edit: Jay is correct. momo is more likely to find the masons and monks than mafia/wolves.
I would prefer to NOT give more information on who the masons/monks are.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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In fact, I would go so far as to say that reads lists are anti-town.-
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Okay, Math, you generally have good sense, but you're going to need to explain that "readslists are anti-town" to me.ShowCheck my wiki for my meta.
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Me too, actually. Because Masons/Monks are not even guaranteed to be Town, so neither pair should automatically assume they're both Town.In post 160, Assemblerotws wrote:Okay, Math, you generally have good sense, but you're going to need to explain that "readslists are anti-town" to me.
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Mathdino Survivor
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I'm speaking from experience from the last time I played a mason open. The masons were too clear about their reads and started chainsaw defending each other. By D2 the entire mason team was outed (after a mason kill on N1).
A50 makes a good point that I hadn't fully thought through.
That said, being masons/monks with someone makes them half as likely to be scum, and you're probably gonna want them around for later so you can read them in the hood. Plus masons/monks like to breadcrumb each other for some reason. While masons/monks could be scum, it's far more likely that the pairs will implicitly trust each other. This bleeds through into the thread. I know I'm good at PR hunting. I'm trying to defend the town against what scum-me would do (which is draw out the conversation, test a bunch of wagons, and nail the masonries).
So yeah let's not do too many wagons. Until masons/monks die, I would also argue too much VCA is anti-town.-
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IN FACT, I'd even suggest flashwagoning Beefstereven if you are masons/monks with him. If he claims mason or monk I'll leave him alive for sure.
So if you're "partners" with Beefster, you should help vote him up and get him closer to the claim, knowing he's gonna claim and get cleared anyway. This muddles the associations.
Or, now that I've said this, don't do that, because that'll muddle the associations even more!
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math is prob town. not sure iagree with the beef wagon, or his analysis of archwing,but hee looks town.
someone unvote beef for gods sake.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Mathdino Survivor
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never
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FoS: Kotoko
@talon: yeah but if i got shot i wouldn't have to scumhunt in multiball so it evens out
plus both scumteams might shoot me if i'm awesome enough-
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Spoiler:
VOTE: assemble
Dino prob town
Dav seeing things that make me happy in my head but not my heart which are normally connected so leanscum?
assemble sitting on his hands and not getting engaged looks like scum who doesnt realize they actually have to scumhunt this game and are playing on autopilot
beef wagon looks ass even though I dont like beefs posting
i like almost
momo is making the headache i already have worse
frosty's super awkwardness is pinging me but I have a soft spot for people who are naturally scummy
Im pretty sure ive played with scum dunn before but I forget where but Im kinda feeling bleh about him just lurkaderping (lolhypocrisy) but I have to either track it down or figure something else out
I like reptar
arch's beetlejuice was kinda weird but math had good points re him so meh
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Mathdino Survivor
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who the hell is reptar
also assemble is a known lurker and does this shit constantly
also what's wrong with the beef wagon D:-
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you
I liked hte reptar name and it made me laugh but then I swapped back to your real name so ill prob flipflop all game
I just hate how it formed. Its like im making a fruit salad and I dumped a fuckton of soy sauce in there and it fucked it all up like how did the soy sauce even get in my hand where did it come from
But like moms been jumping all over the place and I cant keep track of his train of thought at all
Jays awkwardness is kinda understandable as I already said and I like you and almost but idk I think I saw it was at like 4/5 votes already out of nowehere based off one quote wall that everyone just seems okay with deciding the fate of the day which is SUPER weird (like tbh I disagree re quicklynching but this is my personal stance and not bleeding in) but you realize how little theyve had to add re this?
Like I know everyone wants to pretend they are godsent with reads but blindsheeping like this reminds me of when id push lynches in 24 hours as scum (which should mean im scumreading you but im not because this is selfmeta that i wanted to do bc im bored and i understand why you are doing it) but it should bother you how fast this is and that everyone is just blind trusting you when people hadnt even shown up to be analyzed (which is my own fault I admit)
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i thought it sounded cool-
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Mathdino Survivor
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i'd like to think i have a pretty baller reputation among every player that sheeped me
might be the context you're missing-
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Why are you calling me out for my RVS votes?In post 138, Mathdino wrote:shit vote, that's not a scumtell
playing along, haha look at me i'm making jay like me by roleplaying too
whelp the dave thing isn't viable because he's acting like town, lemme just RVS someone who's not even here yetIn post 41, Beefster wrote:UNVOTE: davesaz
Gut town read on dave.
VOTE: Kotoko Utsugi
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