Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[Aneninen]

RadiantCowbells: I don't have a townread on Reckoner. But, because of the latest things (that I saw when I checked the recents) made me think that my scumread could be wrong.

As for Mastina, during a break at work I took a look at her posts and yes, I saw her posting similar things as town.

But remember, these were merely quick answers.

[Something_Smart]

Did you... not think it could be wrong before then?

[RadiantCowbells]

What about LurkLion?

If we can Lynch lion today without lynching reck or chesskid and with them shitting on everyone pushing the wagon it's because he's flipping town.

It's also the highest scum equity in the game so there's that.

Creature how do you not tr mastina rn I don't understand

[RadiantCowbells]

Like you say unrealistic

You know what's unrealistic to me? That there's three scum not in reck chesskid

How many potential scum slots are there in this game to you

[Creature]

You TR mastina because you expected her to do better as scum, right?

[RadiantCowbells]

Clarify that?

Like I was townreading her opener and now she's sort of obvtown

[chesskid3]

Clarify that?

Like I was townreading her opener and now she's sort of obvtown

to quote ellibereth

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[RadiantCowbells]

Mastina is not as good a scum player as she thinks she is or claims to be and she couldn't pull that reckoner case off as scum. No offense to you Mastina.

That's basically it for me, I feel like everyone should take a second to read mastina scum games because she's actually super weak about pushing people. Look at her blah as hell push on me in org 13. Or like anything she does as scum.

I wish Ginngie wasn't on mastinas team because anyone with Mastina experience should have her locktown rn

[Creature]

Okay then.

So here's that: I want to sort as many players as possible rather than just votepark chesskid/Reck.

[Katyusha]

Okay then.

So here's that: I want to sort as many players as possible rather than just votepark chesskid/Reck.

I don’t see why both can’t be done simultaneously

I’d actually like to hear Guilty’s opinion on the situation specifically

[RadiantCowbells]

Like the only thing that makes mastina scum strong is that people don't know what to do with her. This is straight up not in her scum range. More to the point, chesskid knows it's not in her scum range.

Either people organized out of game to policy Lynch mastina to punish her or they're just scum who don't see either of us as threats and think they can bowl over town without resistance.

Okay that's fine. If I didn't need to maintain momentum I would be doing that too. But I am not letting this turn around.

[Creature]

It works better when the lynch is unpredictable.

[Aneninen]

Let's see some ISOs.

Reckoner

Things like his 18 "actually Kilby just responded and said you're good at scum and Firebringer is easily caught so that's his explanation" – are seriously scummy. I've expressed my opinion before. In addition:

why

would have chosen Firebringer a scum-slot in the first place? Teams were able to assign players to slots freely. If they had sent RC here originally, they wouldn't have had to swap at all. See?

There are, how-can-I-say, "let's be friends" kind of nulls, too. Like 61. Scum need to do that, not townies.

Double-checked his 228, that readlist may or may not be genuine. Too much scum indeed, but could be playstyle-thing, too. Somehow, his later explanation, starting from 277 gave me worse vibes, but I can't put my finger on it, why. I can't find the part where he had 8 scumreads.

In 466 he says, f-ck meta. Still, he's using meta as a tool, eg. in 275 and later, in that flamewallwhatsyt with Mastina. Erm...?

As for 663, his "the reasons i am working with chesskid:" – that would be terrible gameplay if both were scum. (This is an associative specualtion, though, which is not too efficient on Day1. But we should remember this later.) Also, from a scum-Reckoner, picking Chesskid as a "work partner" would be a terrible move, regardless of Chesskid's alignment.

Yet he votes for him in 682...!

Another thing we should remember later is his interaction with Something_Smart, around 696. This may be scum-scum conversation, a kind of "let's not ignore each other blatantly". But, this is, again, speculation.

And then starts that rage.

________

To tell the truth, it's

only

the rage part, with all those walls that looks town. Especially 955. But it's

still

there and I think a player can fake anything easier than a rage.

Right now, he'll be my

lean scum

read. As a reference to the other reads. I mean, does (anyone) look more scummy than him or not?


I'll ISO everyone later but now I need to go soon. I started with Reckoner because he seemed to be the most urgent one to get sorted.

[chesskid3]

This is straight up not in her scum range. More to the point, chesskid knows it's not in her scum range.

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[chesskid3]

jesus christ these aninen posts

[Katyusha]

It works better when the lynch is unpredictable.

I mean I guess in a vacuum but forcing people to take stances has a lot of utility and it’s possible people who haven’t weighed in yet see a third option and seeing the argument and understanding the motive in that case provides equally valuable information

Even if the current consensus is Reck/chesskid vs Mastina lynch that doesn’t mean everyone will follow the consensus

Pedit: anenien I absolutely feel the same way about reck’s anger being the only remotely town thing about him. What did you think about the point I made in my vote?

[Creature]

I don't know about Reck.

[Creature]

We give hider to Reck?

[chesskid3]

Kat! Bad!

Unless you have both me and reck as scum Reck is 100% town because either im the scum of us or I am town and 100% NOT. MISREADING. HIM.

[Aneninen]

Chesskid: what's wrong?

Katyusha. I'll check that when I'm ISO-ing you. Please wait, I need to go to work. Short posts only until I have some time again.

[RadiantCowbells]

You have a person who literally opened the game by saying they invented the ragey playstyle that used to characterize my scumgame and you're townreading him for expressing anger. Like he is mad because he's getting lynched.

I don't know what to say rn.

[Katyusha]

I don't know about Reck.

What scumhunting has he done? How has he made any effort to figure out the gamestate besides tunneling Mastina over what basically amounts to omgus (for a push that isn’t even scummy) and personal grudge?

pedit: I don’t give 3 shits about your opinion chesskid especially if you’re going to selectively choose what posts of mine you’re going to respond to

pedit: yeah that’s cool anen

[chesskid3]

Ok but I'm just objectively! better than you at this game so

[Katyusha]

We give hider to Reck?

There doesn’t seem to be consensus about whether we give the hider to town or scum

pedit: if it helps you sleep at night

[chesskid3]

i literally can't wait for the end of team mafia I'm already jizzing in my fucking pants waiting.

And it will coincide with my unbanning and reign on MD with my god status confirmed