Team Mafia 2018: White Flag — Day Six

[LicketyQuickety]

gamma, i don't mean any offense by this but your thoughts in 530 seem superficial.

Proposal for a set of acronyms:

• MTT - my teammates think
• IDCAWYTMTBYMBLTEYPWEG - I don't care about what your teammates think because you might be lying to enhance your posts with extra gravitas
• WYELT?EAIFTR..R?! - Would you, ergo, lynch this? Ergo as in 'for these reasons.. Really?!
• TYRUF? - Then Y R U Frontin'?

I like these acronyms, gives an air of keeping things brief, not getting bogged down in wordiness.

i mean, do you

really

think that these acronyms serve a functional purpose or that people were going to adopt them? i'm having trouble believing that that's a real thought that you had, and the same applies to a few other things you said there.

Yeah, good post here by North. I can say I don't get this by GE at all. If he is Scum, this is a pretty open pocket play.

[LicketyQuickety]

(If you are town, we are on the same team, so pls help)
Anyway the reason I woke myself up was I got paranoid about Postie and ISOed her in bed and I can't remember why she is town.
Mostly I just see a good player playing the game. Solid probability of town because game loaded with town but not the obvtown I was hoping.
TSQ is take it to the bank never lynch town though because he got frustrated with me and tried to pull me more actively into the game.(which worked). I will ISO him again sometime to make sure but he and Gamma are town 1 and town 2 and NSG has made fakeable posts but they have also been good; gets exhausting to continue to produce moderate grade town tells like that as scum so I think she can be town 3.

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

[MathBlade]

Votecount 1.17

Marquis(3)

~ Davsto, Cogito Ergo Sum, Dunnstral

Thestatusquo(2)

~ LicketyQuickety, Sauce

Cogito Ergo Sum(2)

~ Lycanfire, northsidegal

Tchill13(1)

~ Thestatusquo

northsidegal(1)

~ Marquis

LicketyQuickety(1)

~ Llamarble

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ ActionDan

EddieFenix(1)

~ Postie

Davsto(1)

~ Tchill13


Not Voting (2): Gamma Emerald, EddieFenix

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-04 21:00:00)

MOD NOTES

Davsto replaces wgeurts! Will update first post after work.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Eddie, GE, why aren't you voting?

[Postie]

DAVSTO MY MAN

[Postie]

VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.

Dude you're almost as bad as Eddie at this point what the heck is this vote
I'd like a readslist pronto, please

[Davsto]

Hello everyone! Apparently I'm young and beautiful, but only one of them is actually true. It's up to you which.

But yeh it's 10PM here so no actual post from me but tomorrow is a sunday so I'll be catching up the best I can then. I'd ask questions but I have a feeling that the response to literally every one would be "you'd know if you read the game" so I'll do that first.

I recognise a few names so yeh, should be fun. Watch out, Postie.

[Llamarble]

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

I've ISOed you a couple times.
I don't have a grand plan for my reading order.
I was literally falling asleep and thought "whoah, why am I townreading Postie again?" and got up to check.

Llamarble if I called the scumteam as Marquis+ActionDan+CES what would be your opinion?

I don't see anything wrong with these choices, particularly CES + AD I can believe. CES is going after Marquis with a decent amount of energy, but not enough to rule out the pairing.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

I've ISOed you a couple times.
I don't have a grand plan for my reading order.
I was literally falling asleep and thought "whoah, why am I townreading Postie again?" and got up to check.

If you have ISO'd me a couple of times, I find it very strange that you are Scum reading me for just one particular thing i.e. my engagement with shea.

[northsidegal]

Northsidegal, have you compared Marquis' early posting here to his posts in Signs and Void?

i haven't yet, although i've been meaning to – i thought marquis was a newer player until you pointed out that he was in the previous team mafia. i hope you realize that my question towards you isn't a questioning of your marquis read – i'm trying to figure out if you're actually reading the game at all, because as far as i can tell you haven't expressed any other scumreads nor any clear townreads.

VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.

any particular reason for voting the person being replaced? by the way, tchill has been active elsewhere on site but not here.

VOTE: tchill

Nothing concrete yet. I want Llamarble's opinion. I'm still trying to reconcile my primary scumreads (i.e. only one of you or LQ). I think Postie is more town for reasons, some questions I have to respond to, others I think are inane and I will be ignoring. I have a few thoughts, but two/all three of those jumped out at me in a way I usually see into other dimensions to find scum. Will explain everything.

i'd appreciate if you would respond to 436 and 551 and, if you don't plan to, explain why they're presumably "inane".

[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah, totally agree that Chill "apologising" for voting Postie is weird af and is also Scummy af. I don't want to change my vote back just yet tho.

[Postie]

I don't think it's scummy that he backs down from voting me. What's scummy is that he then sits on his hands and can't follow up with anything new.
Though something that's causing me to hesitate here is the fact that if he were this disengaged and unable to play the game as scum, I don't understand why he would pick it? He's not exactly a newb either so he should have a rough idea of his capabilities as scum.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.

Uh this vote is pretty bad, I don't know why you're voting a slot that hasn't posted right now?

You seem off this game now, you seem timid compared to other games

[northsidegal]

hey dunn do you have time to talk?

[northsidegal]

if so then please respond to 436.

[Thestatusquo]

(If you are town, we are on the same team, so pls help)
Anyway the reason I woke myself up was I got paranoid about Postie and ISOed her in bed and I can't remember why she is town.
Mostly I just see a good player playing the game. Solid probability of town because game loaded with town but not the obvtown I was hoping.
TSQ is take it to the bank never lynch town though because he got frustrated with me and tried to pull me more actively into the game.(which worked). I will ISO him again sometime to make sure but he and Gamma are town 1 and town 2 and NSG has made fakeable posts but they have also been good; gets exhausting to continue to produce moderate grade town tells like that as scum so I think she can be town 3.

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

what's the point of scum "getting town reads right" at all? isn't the literal only motivation for getting a town read being town? this game is mountainous. scum doesn't need town reads.

[Thestatusquo]

also I should note: my level of activity will naturally go down on the weekends, when I am not forced to sit in front of a computer for 8 hours a day, so I generally don't.

Expect a couple posts like this from me on weekends and then my regular content on weekdays.

Still down to kill LQ or Tchill primarily.

[LicketyQuickety]

(If you are town, we are on the same team, so pls help)
Anyway the reason I woke myself up was I got paranoid about Postie and ISOed her in bed and I can't remember why she is town.
Mostly I just see a good player playing the game. Solid probability of town because game loaded with town but not the obvtown I was hoping.
TSQ is take it to the bank never lynch town though because he got frustrated with me and tried to pull me more actively into the game.(which worked). I will ISO him again sometime to make sure but he and Gamma are town 1 and town 2 and NSG has made fakeable posts but they have also been good; gets exhausting to continue to produce moderate grade town tells like that as scum so I think she can be town 3.

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

what's the point of scum "getting town reads right" at all? isn't the literal only motivation for getting a town read being town? this game is mountainous. scum doesn't need town reads.

You are assuming I am SRing Llama for that.

[Llamarble]

But uh, why else mention it and ask for the town motivation?

[Thestatusquo]

(If you are town, we are on the same team, so pls help)
Anyway the reason I woke myself up was I got paranoid about Postie and ISOed her in bed and I can't remember why she is town.
Mostly I just see a good player playing the game. Solid probability of town because game loaded with town but not the obvtown I was hoping.
TSQ is take it to the bank never lynch town though because he got frustrated with me and tried to pull me more actively into the game.(which worked). I will ISO him again sometime to make sure but he and Gamma are town 1 and town 2 and NSG has made fakeable posts but they have also been good; gets exhausting to continue to produce moderate grade town tells like that as scum so I think she can be town 3.

OK, this sounds like you are trying to put more effort into getting your TRs correct than your SRs. What's the Town motivation for that? Have you even bothered to ISO me, your strongest SR?

what's the point of scum "getting town reads right" at all? isn't the literal only motivation for getting a town read being town? this game is mountainous. scum doesn't need town reads.

You are assuming I am SRing Llama for that.

for the love of god stop trying to put words in my mouth. I am saying it is an utterly useless question. unless you are suggesting that llama should change his behavior and stop trying to find town reads, OR that he should stop trying to double check his town reads, what exactly are you trying to accomplish with this post? because it reads like well poisoning to me.

especially because the action is a thing that only townies would be prone to do organically.

[Thestatusquo]

Like that vibe becomes even stronger with the conclusion.

It's another reason I think you're likely to be scum.

You keep trying to subtly discredit scum reads on you. And I just mean like, argue and dispute arguments, because theres obviously town motivation to do that. What I mean is you keep trying to weasel around people scum reading you. One example of it is trying to cast all the people scum reading you as not understanding how you play, and saying they were doing so because they didn't like you playing mechanically, when in fact doing so was not the reason I had stated I was scum reading you, nor do I think its a fair characterization of the reason others were.

Similarly, in this post you seem to be suggesting that llama has not done the work, and subtly implying that his reads on you aren't to be trusted. At no point has llama said or even implied he hasn't read your iso, so you throwing it out there like that reads to me as an attempt to discredit his arguments instead of trying to interact with them.

It's disingenuous. You're not making good faith arguments.

[Thestatusquo]

*and I'm don't just mean

[LicketyQuickety]

Like that vibe becomes even stronger with the conclusion.

It's another reason I think you're likely to be scum.

You keep trying to subtly discredit scum reads on you. And I just mean like, argue and dispute arguments, because theres obviously town motivation to do that. What I mean is you keep trying to weasel around people scum reading you. One example of it is trying to cast all the people scum reading you as not understanding how you play, and saying they were doing so because they didn't like you playing mechanically, when in fact doing so was not the reason I had stated I was scum reading you, nor do I think its a fair characterization of the reason others were.

Similarly, in this post you seem to be suggesting that llama has not done the work, and subtly implying that his reads on you aren't to be trusted. At no point has llama said or even implied he hasn't read your iso, so you throwing it out there like that reads to me as an attempt to discredit his arguments instead of trying to interact with them.

It's disingenuous. You're not making good faith arguments.

So... are you trying to argue to me why I am Scum or what?

And I do defend myself as Town, look it up. Also, the distinction you made regarding fighting against your own lynch doesn't even exist IMO.

I am not implying anything by questioning Llama, I am pointing out what doesn't make sense to me. But sure, label that as a reason to SR me.

Frankly, you are fucking horrible at understanding my motivations, shea.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Chill

This is TSQ's Town game. He flips his shit as Town way more than when he is Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

Reads:

Town

North -

Most Confident

Dan
TSQ -

50/50 on Town Lean/Town

Town Lean

Eddie
Gamma Emerald
CES -

50/50 on Town/Null

Null

Sauce - Doesn't have to do much to bump him up to Town Lean
Dunnstral - This isn't moving until I see enough content to actually be able to sort
Dave -

Least Confident

Lycanfire
Postie - I don't see Postie moving out of this rage D1

Scum Lean

Llamarble -

50/50 on Scum/Null

Marquis -

50/50 Scum Lean/Scum

Scum

Chill -

Most Confident

I could potentially see Llama and TSQ teammed here. So even tho individually I have very different reads on these player, I think if Llama flips Red then TSQ has a pretty damn good chance to flip red as well. With this, though, Llama is my weakest SR.