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[Chumba]

Good morning everyone.

[Chumba]

I wish they had those. F dunkin

[Chumba]

Your post seems more forced than his post.

[Chumba]

*** DISCLAIMER ***

Just an FYI for you peoples.

I HATE day 1’s. If ANYONE gets to L-1 in the first few days, I will absolutely hammer them without giving them a chance to claim. Faster than you can believe. Unless I hard TR them. Which on Day 1 is very rare. In order to get to night one and get the game rolling.
Don’t expect extensive read lists from me on Day 1 either. If someone scum pings me I’ll definitely go after them but other than that I see Day 1’s as a crapshoot.

If you guys don’t like this play style then feel free to lynch me and I’ll move on to the next signups.

Agree with this. We should just pick somebody and lynch them

[Chumba]

Day 1's suck. It usually sets the tone for the rest of the game. It's on you to make the rest of the game not look like shit. Try starting with today.

Unfortunately there isn’t much to go on and even when somebody finds something it’s near impossible to convince others. It won’t stop me but if we can fly through the day that’s cool also.

[Chumba]

Your post seems more forced than his post.

Speaking in an analytical sense, this is probably the most forced post here.

VOTE: Chumba

I’m actually going to call it right now. I’m 97% this will flip scum.

1. My post was probably the most accurate of the game so far.
2. You either suck at math or are scum. Guess we shall see

[Chumba]

VOTE: tacos

[Chumba]

I rolelay as Light Yagami on this account. Just keep that in mind. I admit, that I break character often, but in time i’d Imagine I can excel at it.

[Chumba]

However I know you regular guys are keen to scum hunt on day one despite the lack of information so I’m keen to practice that skill but I will be rubbish at it

Nah don’t learn bad behaviors. You do you.

Day 1 is rubbish.

[Chumba]

Who is light oragami or whatever

[Chumba]

Also Who is your main account?

[Chumba]

VOTE: tacos

reasoning to vote me aka goku?

You’ve made at least 2 posts I don’t like and that’s better then random

[Chumba]

Tacos has made a couple of bad posts. No scum hunting from him. People say we are still in rvs but I thought it ended when serious votes were cast. Tacos/mortalities could work but let’s find one first before looking at partners.

[Chumba]

I literally made like two actual posts prior to this page,

You had eight before this page

But who cares about details huh?

That was a scummy post btw. Just blanket discredit anyone scum reading you without trying to find out why or respond to anyone who have reasons (I can’t remember if anyone actually did but you get the point)

[Chumba]

Especially because it happened after I pushed chumba, so i’m obviously seeing it as someone chainsawwing him.

Actually 2 votes came before you voted me. 1 came after.

Facts and details actually matter.

[Chumba]

I think he meant 2 non-joke posts but if we are looking for hyperbole I'd say calling the progress of this thread chainsawing Chumba would fit.

#AllPostsMatter

[Chumba]

I think he meant 2 non-joke posts but if we are looking for hyperbole I'd say calling the progress of this thread chainsawing Chumba would fit.

And I don’t see anyone chainsawing me. If anything I’m so obviously town people are buddying me

[Chumba]

VOTE: morality

[Chumba]

You just claimed scum and I’m scum?

[Chumba]

I’m not scum btw. I’ll totally go 1 v 1 with you. Because imo townies don’t self vote. You are a very experienced player and you definitely know better than to self vote.

So sorry you rolled scum boon.

[Chumba]

Where’d I claim that?

When you self voted.

[Chumba]

I’m not scum btw. I’ll totally go 1 v 1 with you. Because imo townies don’t self vote. You are a very experienced player and you definitely know better than to self vote.

So sorry you rolled scum boon.

I have 15+ games I’ve self voted as town. Like two I’ve done it as scum.

I hear you were a great player. Why are people lying about you? Any town player who self votes in my book is a terrible player.

[Chumba]

I mean, I was obvious town.

Clearly.

[Chumba]

If you are town, you let people hard take advantage of you.

I am town and nobody is taking advantage of me. If you are town I’m kind of pissed at you 1. For distracting me from tacos and 2. For playing against your win condition and self voting.

[Chumba]

chumba could be trying to recover from the pressure

What pressure?

[Chumba]

Taco is town af. Lol

Disagree but your opinion doesn’t hold much weight to me.

[Chumba]

I play to win.

If you are town you certainly weren’t playing to win.

[Chumba]

Taco is town af. Lol

Disagree but your opinion doesn’t hold much weight to me.

Well, you can’t read people well, which has been proven already. So it really doesn’t matter what you say.

I can read people better than you

[Chumba]

Anyways. I feel this is scum trolling. See y’all day 2.

[Chumba]

Simple meta dive proves that.

Can’t trust meta. It’s so easy to manipulate. You know this since you’ve done it

[Chumba]

VOTE: dunkers

I wanted to be first

[Chumba]

VOTE: morality

Chumba’s scum, he knows I know he’s scum, and I just can’t prove it yet.

VOTE: Chumba

It’ll get there.

Lynch Chumba for me afterwards, please.

Yeah, I’m town, btw.

Lynch Chumba for me.

Told ya.

Yeah, I was done here. Just push Chumba and the people on my wagon who know my meta.

I was beyond obv town here, and this quick flip, in theory, will help town more than scum. Unless you are all bad with it.

Nice work. Now can you tell me why you left of his later posts? The one where he says I’m town? He even tells taco not to push me.

If you are going to sheep a shitty player. You have to sheep his last word not his early ones.

[Chumba]

TownTaco: Nero and Chumba are town. They’re going to horribly push you. Don’t push them back.

[Chumba]

Like I don’t care if you vote me, even for shitty reasons like sheeping a bad player but you can’t pick and choose which posts you are going to sheep. You have to sheep all of them including the ones before death.

[Chumba]

VOTE: taco

Stupid boon trying to distract me from lynching scum

[Chumba]

I definitely town read chumba atm.

Please stop buddying me

[Chumba]

You've gotta trust me for now.

Nobody should trust you actually.

[Chumba]

@chumba i'll go back and re-read his stuff, i admit i did read through his posts in a rush trying to see what the fuck happened to end the day and so i may not have digested everything properly. Once i've done that ill reevaluate my position.

[Chumba]

TownTaco: Nero and Chumba are town. They’re going to horribly push you. Don’t push them back.

VOTE: taco

Stupid boon trying to distract me from lynching scum

lol

What was funny about that?

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

[Chumba]

Profli looks like scum to me also.

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

I don't think "Let's hope town don't look into how the game went" is a likely or viable strategy for scum.

Interesting that you get a scum read from that.

I have sort of been scum reading taco from day one.

[Chumba]

I actually think your logic is flawed.

Scum kill for a variety of reasons obviously but majority of the time it’s to kill a threat to scum most of the time. Second is a PR read and third is a universal town read that could prove difficult to lynch later.

Taco was scummy before the NK. I’m not even scum reading him because of the Nero kill but you can’t just dismiss the possibility that is why Nero was killed. Based on my experiences and what happened day 1, I really can’t thinknof anything else. Obviously I’m conf.biased a little but with a quick lynch and havo’s hammer it’s probably the best time to take out a threat.

You trying to steer away from that theory rubs me wrong. Now you could be right or I could be right. Only time will tell but I trust myself more than I trust you. Until I see something from taco that makes me doubt my gut, I’m fine parking my vote on him.

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

Standard Tacos.

What do you mean? Tacos doesn’t normally do anything? Why play then?

VOTE: profli

[Chumba]

Chumba - potential involvement in stitching up of Taco so scum lean

In English please?

[Chumba]

Can you explain how Havo gets a pass?

I’m more interested how he said he was concerned Havo was getting a pass, yet gives havo a pass himself.

What’s that all about?

Nobody should ever get a pass imo. If you think the hammer was scummy you push it. If you don’t, you don’t.

[Chumba]

So tell me why you assume taco is town?

[Chumba]

For me the scum have to manipulate town so the latter scenario seems way more effective for them than your plan so I’m happy to stand by it

I don’t have any plan. All I did was say your plan was what scum are least likely to do based on experience and the opposite is more often the case.

Somebody else (can’t rememeb who) also supported that by saying mafia killing to frame rarely happens.

I was scum reading taco day 1 for him playing scummy. I voted him day two for the same reasons plus he still is playing scummy. My vote has absolutely nothing to do with Nero being killed but you just suggested not once but twice it has and all because I disagreed with using logic and experience

And while we are talking about theories. I’ve literally never seen anyone come into a day 2 (or any day that matter) with multiple theories of what scum would do. You came in with 2 different theories.

Just rubs me the wrong way.

[Chumba]

profii is solid town for me

Why?

[Chumba]

okok you gotta understand though, we can't just ignore what boon said, in fact we really should trust it more since he's conf town.

i'm sorting the game on my own, just using boons reads as well.

Actually we can and probably should ignore him because day 1 reads in general are useless. Especially this game because of how little content there was. You have to recognize that those were basically gut reads from rvs and early interactions and they don’t hold much weight.

[Chumba]

There were more than 1 players who said Taco had a naturally scummy play style even when town, therefore scum know it could be easy to lead us to Taco lynch. Then they can pick any player who took exception to Taco and lead us there. .

Ok. So who wasn’t scum reading taco day 1, that’s pushing for his lynch day 2?

If nobody your theory is proven wrong and mine moves to a more likely scenario (and omg that’s the one that’s more likely to happen anyway)

If I’m wrong about you and you are town. I suggest you learn what Occam’s razor is.

Now I’m curious who is pushing taco today.

P.edit - well thought out posts more often come from scum. What else?

Mine. Smh

[Chumba]

Ok profli. The only person who voted tacos today was me and I’ve been scum reading him since day 1. Nobody else is even pushing or attempting to vote him and I have even moved on despite still scum reading him.

So basically your theory is disproven. There was no frame job from what I can tell.

[Chumba]

My first impression of day 2 is that everyone seems to have focussed on the boon-drama, this is a fairly natural thing to do I think but he was VT so although he appears to be a well regarded player on this site, I’m wary about considering he’s reads super locked on and wonder if the scum have used the natural drama focus to cast shade early

Let’s talk about this theory now.

Fykus and dunkers are basically sheeping boon.

Fykus did so incorrectly, was informed he did so, yet still kept his vote.

Wouldn’t these 2 people be people trying to take advantage of the boon drama?

Dunkers as far as I can tell is just straight up sheeping boon. I don’t really see him adding anything new for tchill and tchill and I share a brain about mafia and yet again we seem to agreed with each other and he didn’t even know it was me. So tchill I’m willing to say is lock town.

[Chumba]

10 pages isn't nothing. you can easily get reads from d1, there's no reason to ignore them.

Trust me. Day 1 reads are almost always garbage. He’s probably right about 1/2 people and that’s it. You aren’t going to convince people with “but boon said”

[Chumba]

this is basically scum trying to get us to ignore valid points.

What valid points have been made?

You haven’t made any

[Chumba]

If that’s true I wish he approached it different. I tend to ignore boon even when he’s alive. I certainly am never going to sheep his day 1 reads after he’s dead.

Tchill feels town to me. We have the same reads so he’s either mind melding or like I said earlier buddying me.

It’s going to take way more than “but boon said” to drop a town read that I feel is solid.

[Chumba]

Nah I’m not scum and I’m debunking all this weird theories. Though if you think he’s scum also. Vote him with me.

And yes I’m Derpy. Working on a new style.

[Chumba]

Wait. You just said profli was town and now you learn I’m somebody else and all of a sudden profli is scum?

How’s that happen?

[Chumba]

pedit 2: i didn't say that?

You quoted a post of me and profli and said it was s/s interaction.

So yes you did

[Chumba]

oh lol. Yeah no. Tchill and I just share a brain. Last couple of games we’ve played we had near identical thoughts. He’s made much better posts and his reads make more sense. Sadly you haven’t provided anything useful and I just can’t really trust you atm since you are sheeping a dead guy’s day 1 reads.

I mean tchill could be scum but right now he looks like town and unfortunately you don’t. But you never do to me so I’m leaving you alone for the moment. I hope you do something to change my read soon.

[Chumba]

this is the part i think is s/s

But I’m right in that post.

[Chumba]

Well no offense back at you but sheeping boon is definitely stupid. If you are town I can’t realy work with you. Your push looks scummy to me so you are actually in my scum pile.

And my read of tchill isn’t fake. I’m town reading him because he’s playing like what I have seen him as town and he and I have similar reads. I concede I am not perfect and could very well be misguided town but he looks town and you don’t.

You know what would make you less agitated and people wouldn’t probably stop treating you like you are scum?

Stop sheeping boon. Come up with your own original reasons for why you scum read people. Tchill is scum?

Great tell me why he is and don’t mention boon or his reads.

Once you calm down give that a shot and we can have a conversation. If you are unwilling to do that, I anticipate a lot more agitation in your future.

Good night and forget the game.

[Chumba]

And a read list without any sort of explanation for them is about as useful as a one legged man in an ass kicking competition.

Re-post that with some commentary for each one please or else don’t expect to get credit for it.

It’s like common core math. Doesn’t matter if you are right or wrong but you have to show your work.

[Chumba]

And while we are talking about theories. I’ve literally never seen anyone come into a day 2 (or any day that matter) with multiple theories of what scum would do. You came in with 2 different theories.

Just rubs me the wrong way.

We literally just played a game together where I did this so I should use your policy of Lynch all Liars right here

Further to that you I used the phrase occams razor in the above mentioned game (1976 post 313) when I was theorising that something was off in that game (which at the end I said, I knew your vig claim was BS)

I’m phone posting so will catch up proper shortly but i need to work out if you’re lying because you are trying to direct a mislynch and if so vote will follow

I don’t remember you coming into the day with multiple theories. I’ll have to verify that later.

[Chumba]

I don’t appreciate you calling me a liar when I wasn’t lying.

[Chumba]

I'll take satisfaction that I've put enough doubt in the group that it _could_ be a taco frame job

I should start calling you Donald trump. Your theory has been disproved yet you act like it is still valid.

[Chumba]

@MOD Can we get an update on Randomidget?

He has like 2 hours to post or he’ll be replaced per mods previous post.

[Chumba]

Prod dodge. I’m going to be busy this weekend. I’ll try to catchup when I can.

[Chumba]

Haven’t really had much time to read but I’m down for a tacos/profli/fykus lynch.

The deal with tacos is he isn’t playing the game. He’s definitely not being proactive. He’s instead being reactive. Saying he doesn’t like my posts because they say I find him scummy. He doesn’t really provide anything else. I get he plays scummy as town, but I’ve played with him myself and he’s never played like this. So while I’m not a fan of meta, meta suggests he’s playing different. Ignoring meta his play is scummy.

Now I don’t want to get stuck in a death tunnel which is why I’ll gladly vote any of the other 2. Fykus probably deserves to be lynched just as much as tacos does. So if one of those wagons get going I’m down for it.

That’s all I got for now. Probably won’t be able to designate serious time until Monday or Tuesday.

[Chumba]

What's your read on Dunker?

Scummy but he’s always scummy. Pretty sure I’ve tried to get him lynched every time we’ve played

[Chumba]

Sup bitches

Sup.

Have you caught up yet?

[Chumba]

VOTE: taco

Stupid boon trying to distract me from lynching scum

chumba why did you vote tacos here instead of fykus? he cherry picked what morality said versus tacos just known for being scummy.

Cause I was already scum reading tacos still wanted him lynched. I was giving fykus the benefit of the doubt of misreading.

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

the issue with this is if scum have any competent players with taco i doubt they allow that kill. Then again simplest solution could be true.

Why? My last 2 scum games I killed people scum reading me.

[Chumba]

Like I don’t want to strong arm any lynches because people hate when I do it but I just don’t really see how tacos or fykus for that matter are town.

[Chumba]

sorry, been sick, will try to catch up tomorrow, saturday and sunday.

How about trying to doing this. Or are you unable to actually scum hunt?

[Chumba]

VOTE: mulch

The chance to take scum mulch out twice is too much to pass up

[Chumba]

Meta is garbage. First on my other accounts I play scum and town identically

This was an account I was trying to keep hidden and as such I am experimenting on a new playstyle.

So your meta argument is garbage but you are scum so this is a non issue.

[Chumba]

Like I don’t want to strong arm any lynches because people hate when I do it but I just don’t really see how tacos or fykus for that matter are town.

Lol

BULLSHIT

YOU DONT WANT TO STRONGARM THE LYNCHES BECAUSE YOU KNOW I AM TOWN YOU SCUMFUCK

I’m voting you and have been telling people they should lynch you so clearly your theory is wrong.

I’m not strong arming lynches on this account. I strong arm lynches as scum and town as Derpy so clearly you don’t know as much as you think you do.

[Chumba]

tchill is scum.

Mindmeld

lol that isn’t how mindmelds work

[Chumba]

VOTE: Chumba

You were already voting me.

[Chumba]

Name one town game you haen't tunneled someone

on this game you've just been being reasonable

And why the fuck are you scumreading Serg

And why are you scumreading me

And why aren't you going after my slot like you did when I replaced into LAST game when I was scum and you were SK (town)?

Last game you scumread my slot, you tunneled my ass and shot me and I flipped scum. This game you aren't even tunneling me and I'm town this time

1. No because games on my other accounts don’t matter on this one.
2. Why is being reasonable such a bad thing? I’m trying something different.
3. Already explained. I believe you have read my posts and even quoted one or 2 where I explain. if I’m misremembering I’m sure you can find it in my iso
4. Because you replaced tacos
5. Because I’m not playing like that on this account. I already explained this.

[Chumba]

Ok. Say there is a world in which you are town. do you blame me for scumreading you when you are drastically different than your scum game and you are "trying a new style?"

How am I supposed to know you just aren't scum and not "trying a new style"

1. I am town
2. In some alternative universe, if you were town this game yes I would blame you for scum reading me because you have nothing to scum read me for THIS game that doesn’t involve me and meta. You clearly don’t know me or my meta enough anyway because anyone who knows me knows I try to mirror my town game when I’m scum.
3. If you were town I’d expect you to ignore meta completely and judge me based on my play. You were town reading me based on my play and did a 180 after learning I was Derpy.

And please stop posting so much or I’ll just have to ignore your posts which I don’t want to do.

[Chumba]

they are pushing on me using incorrect meta (wrongly).

Why do you have an issue with this? That is what you are doing also.

It would be much easier if people just ignore meta and focus on play this game.

Ok guys. See y’all sometime tomorrow evening.

[Chumba]

Bragging isn’t overrated.

[Chumba]

*is overrated

[Chumba]

Are you on drugs

[Chumba]

Fykus hammered himself. LMAO!

that is usually what caught scum will do.

[Chumba]

I'm assuming mulch told fykus to hammer himself so mulch could do something with it.

wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Chumba]

Why not?

Idk I just thought we would be a bit more methodical. If you all want to wagon him then go ahead but I would like to be a little more sure before I vote. Another mislynch+NK means our scum lynch yesterday won't mean nearly as much.

If anyone wants to actually make a case against him then I'm all ears.

mulch/dunker/profii have most of my attention currently.

He’s not posting or playing. The last person we flipped who did that flipped scum. Doesn’t hurt to pressure him to post.

I’m fine with lynching those 3 also but we need lots of posts from him.

[Chumba]

I think all 3 of them have a better likelihood of being town than them being scum at this point. Why don't you?

You think mulch/profli/dunkers could all be town?

[Chumba]

I’m pushing my theory that the Mulch/Taco slot was framed by the Nero kill to see if it stands up.

[Chumba]

remember the discussion about Occam’s razor? I just don’t see how you are town pushing a scenario that is least likely.

VOTE: profli

[Chumba]

Well technically it is disproven

[Chumba]

but mulch/tacos has done nothing that looks town. how can you still be defending them? maybe you figure you had to double down now you lost fykus ?

[Chumba]

Meta is garbage. First on my other accounts I play scum and town identically

This was an account I was trying to keep hidden and as such I am experimenting on a new playstyle.

So your meta argument is garbage but you are scum so this is a non issue.

[Chumba]

Damn that RC.

[Chumba]

Mulch I'll compromise on notmafia. Don't like how you're so eager to get off him. You keep attacking chumba for changing his play style ON AN ALTERNATE ACCOUNT lol. Seems like he's playing to his town meta enough. I could see him being scum I just think notmafia is the drection we should go now.

Can you explain your town reads on mulch, profli, and dunkers.

[Chumba]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

[Chumba]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

Ethos could be for sure IMO.

I like Lycan so far.

Why?

[Chumba]

Mulch I'll compromise on notmafia. Don't like how you're so eager to get off him. You keep attacking chumba for changing his play style ON AN ALTERNATE ACCOUNT lol. Seems like he's playing to his town meta enough. I could see him being scum I just think notmafia is the drection we should go now.

Can you explain your town reads on mulch, profli, and dunkers.

Since when has derpy ever been concerned with other people’s opinions

Derpy isn’t playing.

[Chumba]

Tchill did you know you are the most town read player?

Is there a reason for this post?

Because it’s eye catchingly out of place.

My thoughts also but his entire play seems out of place to me.

[Chumba]

Yes. I understand basic mafia.

can you teach mulch?

[Chumba]

I can tell you right now if Not Mafia isn’t going to contribute any more than what he has. I’m good with lancing that slot.

[Chumba]

That’s the secret. Mulch knows.

based on every game I have read or personally played with him, as either alignment he is a detriment to his factions win condition so I don't think he does.

[Chumba]

VOTE: Why Mafia

[Chumba]

VOTE: Why Mafia

VOTE: Not mafia

[Chumba]

I was okay with wagoning tacos but Mulch is actually bringing some new perspective to the table and seems to be genuinely scumhunting. As of now I see no reason to wagon him anymore.

UNVOTE: profii , VOTE: mulch

scummy/annoying play.

Hey ethos, this vote switch is weird to me. You said you saw mulch was genuinely scum hunting (if you could find these examples for me that would be awesome) but later vote him for being scummy/annoying.

I don't really see how you make the 180 so can you walk me through it please?

[Chumba]

ok whatever
if you're wrong im parking my vote tmr
VOTE: chumba

He is wrong. He also fucking trampled over a great scum hunting post. He confirmed he’s not town.

VOTE: mulch

[Chumba]

That’s the secret. Mulch knows.

based on every game I have read or personally played with him, as either alignment he is a detriment to his factions win condition so I don't think he does.

This post slightly concerns me. You are casting shade over scum!mulch or town!mulch

It says to me you don’t know his alignment and want his dead anyway

Great, town slip, but tunneling

No. If he’s town I want him to start acting like it. But he isn’t but he isn’t. His reaction to my question to somebody else wasn’t town. If his read changed because he changed his read he should be allowed to explain himself. Answering for somebody else is always scummy and 100% anti town.

[Chumba]

chumba how are you reading tchill/havo/lycan

Can you please answer my question

[Chumba]

I have no clue who the remaining scum are. Tried to look at the vote counts and unless the last 2 scum are in the pool of tchill/havo/not mafia i'm completely lost.

I won't even fight my lynch because that is how 1 v 1s work but i am town.

[Chumba]

VOTE: havo

[Chumba]

oh and I am officially never playing with mulch again acrosss all my accounts. he is clearly a troll account and doesn't care about winning or losing.

and scratch that havo vote, i forgot about ethos

VOTE: ethos

i forgot about his weird 180 on mulch and I don't think he ever responded to my question about it.

[Chumba]

I am against mass claims

[Chumba]

chumba, you're the only one on mulch and boon, but not fykus

so? I wasn't online for the fykus wagon unfortunately. I wish I was

ethos actually looks like scum on the fykus wagon

[Chumba]

oh my bad, he wasn't on but he was going to hammer and fykus did it instead. his reactions to me look like scum/scum

[Chumba]

I'm a bit confused why Mulch looked at my ISO, decided I was town for a bit then randomly went back to calling me scum.

Apart from that, with Mulch not presenting anything scummy, I can still see my Taco Frame Job at least being possible

VOTE: Fykus

That's L-1. Stating intent to hammer in approximately 19 hours if he doesn't repond. Fykus: any role claim?

This was his post.

we don't even know 100% if scum have day talk or not since we don't know if encryptor is in the game so he probably didn't know he was going to hammer. his response the next day seemed off to me also.

he could have been hoping fykus was going to come in and fake claim something.

[Chumba]

anyways. I want ethos to answer my original question that I have asked him twice already, now this is a 3rd.

i want to know what posts mulch made that he thought were good scum hunting posts (or whatever terminology he originally used) and why mulch being annoying justified a 180 on him.

[Chumba]

chumba is on all the town lynches but avoided the scum one

why the blatant misrep here?

[Chumba]

chumba is on all the town lynches but avoided the scum one

why the blatant misrep here?

how is that a misrep?

avoided imo is a deliberate attempt to stay off or not join.

I had no knowledge the wagon was even happening. there is a big difference

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i really want ethos to answer my question. tbh I am not even sure how he ignored it considering mulch kept talking about it.

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Why have you been so quiet?

What’s the case on tchill?

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Well can’t blame anyone for scum reading you. You aren’t playing the game

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Somebody familiar with my meta

[Chumba]

could last 2 scum be tchill/ethos?

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tchill/havo scum would be hilarious also

[Chumba]

oh btw chumba!! my taco theory i think has moved from unproven, to unlikely and now quite probable :p we just have to work out who sent us there

Somebody familiar with my meta

[Chumba]

Tchill is more familiar with my meta on this site than havo is. But havo claims to be town reading me off some meta thing.

I honestly have no clue who is scum

[Chumba]

Yeah he could be.

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I wish I had time to really look over their ISOs to see if their reads and trajectory make sense. do they do anything on their own to push scum reads.

[Chumba]

I don't have any town reads atm. While we aren't at lylo yet, if we mislynch today and mafia kill successfully we will so I have abandoned all biases and put everyone back at null.

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tomorrow or wednesday I should have time to sit down and read things. hopefully others do as well.

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The weird 180 on mulch? Weird how you're still focusing on that when the last thing I said about you and mulch was that I thought your 1v1 was TvT and that we shoudn't be lynching him. My gut wants to read you as town but your behavior is reading kinda scummy to me now.

Oh this should be good. Please tell what’s scummy about making you answer a question that I asked you twice to answer.

I’d love to hear your explanation

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Okay. Mulch came into the game and seemingly put in a shit ton of effort. I had never played with him before so I gutread him as town. I know that effort =/= town, but I know personally that when I replace into games, I am likely to talk my head off a lot when I'm town, because I need people to quickly be able to develop a town read on me. I guessed that mulch was doing what I would do. I also had no reason to scumread tacos, I never did scumread tacos, and therefore I had not been scumreading mulch's slot all game.

Then at some point mulch scumread me. I think this was during his phase of spamming the thread with single-lined responses. Then Tchill posted 688. I felt compelled to agree with Tchill's line of thinking for some reason.

You said mulch was doing some genuine scum hunting. Tchill’s post contradicts that statement yet you find yourself agreeing with him and the only thing I can see that changed was that mulch started scum reading you.

So if still love to see some examples of this genuine scum hunting. I don’t really understand how you can do a 180 on somebody who was scum hunting just for being annoying or how you can agree with tchill who basically says the opposite, that mulch isn’t realy scum hunting.

It doesn’t make sense to me.

[Chumba]

Is it time to bring up Havo's d1 hammer yet?

Looking back twice bringing up havo’s hammer is bad.

Your omgus to tchill’s post was also bad.

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What's scummy is the fact that I tried to stop him from being lynched yet you contributed to killing a VT and somehow I am still supposed to look more suspicious than you because "he didnt answer mah question hurr durr"

You know if you are scum you can stay off wagons and criticize others. If you are town i don’t see how you can be so wishy washy on mulch and then act heroic for being off the wagon.

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What's scummy is the fact that I tried to stop him from being lynched yet you contributed to killing a VT and somehow I am still supposed to look more suspicious than you because "he didnt answer mah question hurr durr"

You know if you are scum you can stay off wagons and criticize others. If you are town i don’t see how you can be so wishy washy on mulch and then act heroic for being off the wagon.

I'm just saying if you want to keep hounding me about mulch when you voted on him and I didn't, that's sketchy. Sure, scum can do exactly what you just said, but I had first vote on mulch. Why would I remove it if I were scum? That's right where scum wants their vote to be..

Idk man. But I also don’t know why you ignored my question and then got all weird

[Chumba]

Why are we mass claiming?

[Chumba]

Chumba, am I on the right lines there?

That was definitely more in-depth searching but I’ll look that post when I get to a computer

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Whats the argument against it?

I just laid down an argument for it.

Town still has at least 1 good PR left. Scum keep hitting VTs except n1.

Setup spec usually fails (see my game)

So I don’t really see a point.

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Possibly. So why put them?

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Like for mass claim to happen everyone needs to vote for it. A majority is needed. I already said I was against it. So since that step was bypassed I’m not claiming.

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It's worth sacrificing a PR to catch scum at this point.

I guess? I don’t really know. I’m just never been a fan of mass claims.

Not mafia not playing is really pissing me off if he is town. Unfortunately we can’t tell.

VOTE: not mafia

[Chumba]

Fine whatever.

[Chumba]

Chumba was initially questioning me on why I scumread mulch in the first place. Which has been blown out of proportion anyways because I didn't even want to lynch him!

But you voted him. Why did you vote him if you didn’t want to lynch him?

Also where are these genuine scum hunting posts?

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Smh. All I’m trying to do is figure out how you can town read somebody for genuinely scum hunting to thinking they are scum for being annoying and you can’t even answer the damn question.

Agreeing with tchill was your original response but tchill basically said he wasn’t scum hunting.
Next you say it was his “spray and pray” style of posting which doesn’t qualify as genuine scum hunting
And now you are harping at the fact that you didn’t end up on his wagon.

So great you are ending your conversation with me because you can’t even give me a straight answer.

At this point I’ll just say scum is ethos/not mafia and call it a day

[Chumba]

eth0s you're a pr right?

I won’t be believing any pr claim he makes.

[Chumba]

At this point you'd be wrong

Well that would be your own fault if I am.

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Why am I scum Dunk? You know lurking isn't a reason

Not scum hunting is though

[Chumba]

You aren’t doing anything

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You aren’t doing anything

Disagree

You are playing a worse game than fykus. He flipped scum. Unfortunately this game relies heavily on trust. You have to trust others are town. I can’t trust somebody who has chosen to lurk and be unhelpful.

[Chumba]

I’m only voting not mafia or ethos today.

Good Night

[Chumba]

tchill

you numpty

How can you blame him? Blame yourself

[Chumba]

How anyone tr’d ethos was beyond me.

[Chumba]

Can we now confirm mulch is a troll account? I’ve seen him intentionally play against his win condition as both alignments.

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Like can we report him and have him banned?

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It’s not my fault tchill tunneled me on “meta”

No it’s your fault you called me scum and trampled over an awesome question I asked to scum.

You didn’t even try to find scum. You never do. You intentionally shit post and do nothing that makes logical sense.

You do it as both alignments which is why I’m sure you are a troll account. I can’t ever seeing you play a game where you took it seriously and actually was useful

[Chumba]

Boon is a terrible player early on. He’s only good late game but if he’s alive late game he’s probably scum

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TBF chumba, Mulch likes to play as scum more than he does town. Players like him hare intentionally blending their town/scum play to make themselves hard to read. I don't really blame Mulch or Boon for this game but I wouldn't say either were real helpful.

People on this site have been doing it for years. I’ve definitely called it out. I’ll just be avoiding those people.

I’m actually more mad at not mafia. Mulch I knew what I was getting. NM flat out didn’t play the game

[Chumba]

Are you an alt, chumba?

Robbnva. Jake from State Farm. Derpy hooves

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Hey I'm happy to take the blame for this loss I don't really care what's said about me to be quite frank lol.

Nah you basically had it figured out. Profli went crazy a little

[Chumba]

Everything pointed to ethos

[Chumba]

I’ll never trust a boon read again

And I’ll. Ever trust Dunk again. Lol

Never trust anyone but yourself

[Chumba]

Or we don't blame a single person and everyone looks at where they went wrong and why

Ok. Tell me why you didn’t play?