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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:57 pm

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In post 749, Firebringer wrote:
In post 747, Maki Harukawa wrote:can I ask why people think Dunn is blatantly obv town
and if you don't think he's town what do you think on him.
He is Town cause ur scum
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Today is not that day.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:58 pm

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In post 732, Maki Harukawa wrote:Alisae knows for a fact I have talked this over with alisae personally and they're not bringing it up on purpose
my meta changes from game to game and even if we want to use the argument of meta
even if we want to use meta those games were 6 months ago and 2 years ago (holy I've been here long)
I don't remember what my thought going into those games were I'd be lying if I said I remember but Alisae acting like it is fact that I would have the same play over and over is fucking strange because my approach to this maybe I had a different mindset to other games I say maybe because I really don't remember how old me wanted to play the game
Well your play and approach here is extremely different.
In those past games, you weren't really worried about control.
Here you're a complete total control freak.

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In post 732, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm not trying to control the pairs
Um
I think your WHOLE approach to my slot and the pairs completely suggests otherwise.
If that's not controlling then I don't really know what IS controlling, so feel free to educate me there :]

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In post 732, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm giving my own suggestion and I think Alisae not wanting to go with the IC pair was a scumclaim because why wouldn't they want to be with conf town if they're under sus? Alisae clearly thinks they can beat me in a 1v1 so why are they so worried to go with the IC? It makes 0 sense with the thought process Alisae is trying to project here it randomly changes from time to time plus along with my own meta I brought up before I feel like scum alisae wants me out of this game because they think I'm an easy push perhaps? That's the best I can come up with because I don't really know why scum Ali pushes me here I just don't think there play was right and the ask of joey to dance seemed like an act of desperation to me part of me wants to call Alisae town because of that case on me because I don't know why Alisae would go after me or make that case on me as scum because they have so many players to go on but alisae is controlling the game to me and there acts of something scummy is something I can't let go on I geninely think alisae is trying to get tehre claws in this game and I'm willing to go guns blazing on it.
You're not trying to address my thought process here.
Which has been stated in thread.
Multiple times.
I'll restate it again.
The reason why you want me to pair up with the IC, is so you can continue to hold your scumread on me during dance 1, then during intermission shoot someone that isn't me and Anti, and then push me during dance 2 saying "HEY LOOK, ALISAE IS SCUM BECAUSE ANTI IS STILL ALIVE."

And if you were an easy push, there would be a LOT more support for you.
Right now you're trying to put yourself as the victim, and its scummy.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:59 pm

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single dudes:
beeboy
kokichi
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all da single ladies:
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:59 pm

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Kokichi shouldn’t get paired
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 pm

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Gamma > harambae
Kagami > anti
Sheep > beeboy
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 pm

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chess-eli
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 pm

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I think varner is town I need to re read the monkey because at first I was townreading them for the "I'm prob gonna get left out" it felt really genuine but then I figured that could come from both alignments
beeboy...ehhhhh I flip on this read really hard this was like one of my hidden sr's then I like forgot why I was sring beeboy
Kokichi I've already explained
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:01 pm

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In post 745, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 700, Alisae wrote:COMPLETELY false and in fact, its not the same approach at all. Keep in mind, Claire is comparing DRv3 Upick that she modded to this game. This isn't what I call aggro control. Aggro control is when I have complete control. I am trying to give control to Anti. And I'm not even pushing it that hard.
Keep in mind, Claire is comparing my play currently, to a play where I railroad lynch after lynch after lynch.
If this was the case why wouldn't you try to pair with anti why wouldn't you want to talk things over with them and get them to tr you so you can do it together if you're trying to do that I don't get why you'd pair like that and I never see you (correct me if I'm wrong) just kiss a conf'd town clears ass like you have been doing you're trying to take control of this game and now looking at this case it doesn't even seem like you're trying to sort me at all here it feels like you're just going "what are other reasons I can scumread claire"
Like my scumread on Kokichi isn't as strong as before because I don't think he'd take this angle and be flip floppy on me for reasons...It feels like he's trying to sort me when I compare this to you for example I don't get that same game solving arc I get someone who is trying to post a lot and have a grip in the game and when you got just the little bit of pressure on you you fought back
In post 751, Alisae wrote:You're not trying to address my thought process here.
Which has been stated in thread.
Multiple times.
I'll restate it again.
The reason why you want me to pair up with the IC, is so you can continue to hold your scumread on me during dance 1, then during intermission shoot someone that isn't me and Anti, and then push me during dance 2 saying "HEY LOOK, ALISAE IS SCUM BECAUSE ANTI IS STILL ALIVE."
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:01 pm

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In post 735, Alisae wrote:
In post 728, beeboy wrote:
In post 720, Alisae wrote:
In post 717, sheepsaysmeep wrote:ali's whiteknighyness around harambey is really bad tho
Really?
Because It feels like no one cares that he's a FUCKING NEWBIE

Like sure "that's a weak case" and "he isn't forming reads"
Shit like that has to do with being a newbie.

But the Reck case on Harambey is he essentially dismissed talking strategy and forming reads during the initial phase of the game which I don't think has anything to do with his experience level?
Oh it absolfuckingutely has everything to do with experience level.
In , I attempt to approach him on why what he is doing is bad and why he needs to be okay with letting the phase draw out some more.
Reading onwards to here, he continues to ignore my point completely like it flew over his head.

is his main approach to the mechanic. I don't think this is scummy, I think he genuinely believes that.
He's just not thinking about consquences on why what he's doing is bad.
Its fairly easy to see.
I think the bolded is just you attaching a meaning to his posts that isn't there and doesn't really address how he just dismissed the early game.
I also have 0 idea as to why you think wanting to pair up with a town read is a thought that is more likely to come from town when it is just a really basic thought process.
Also I don't think genuine opinions on mechanical play is ever alignment indicative and thats a very strong stance I have on this topic? How does me being scum have any impact on what I think optimal mechanics play is. Like 0 me being informed or uninformed does not impact how I read a setup spoiler.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:01 pm

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ehh i'd be fine leaving out gamma/harambey
kag/anti and me/beeboy works
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 753, Firebringer wrote:Kokichi shouldn’t get paired
i.... can't say i disagree
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 750, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 749, Firebringer wrote:
In post 747, Maki Harukawa wrote:can I ask why people think Dunn is blatantly obv town
and if you don't think he's town what do you think on him.
He is Town cause ur scum
one day I will learn how to read you.
Today is not that day.
So for now.
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I think u would post here that I don’t know how to read u as Town.
Not how u can’t read me.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:03 pm

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i think koki is townish for openly saying "yeah leave me out" but im susceptible to wifom
id rather leave out beeboy
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:04 pm

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Bee its because he's limiting himself to fairly basic thought processes that just makes me think he's innocent.
But hey, he'll flip town, I'll be like "I told you so."
and if he flips scum then I'm wrong and I made an ass out of myself lmao.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:04 pm

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or harambey

actually yeah either of them over koki
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:04 pm

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In post 754, Firebringer wrote:Gamma > harambae
Kagami > anti
Sheep > beeboy
I'd rather pair with Kokichi than Harambey, would rather pair with neither and if it comes down to us there a decent chance I just don't pair up, but I'd rather leave Harambey out to dry since I feel he's more contentious at this point and him being sorted will serve the town.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:05 pm

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In post 762, xRECKONERx wrote:i think koki is townish for openly saying "yeah leave me out" but im susceptible to wifom
id rather leave out beeboy
I honestly don’t think town really thinks this way


Like what real town actually wants to sacrifice themselves?
For what?

Not wanting to die isn’t scummy.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:05 pm

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In post 765, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 754, Firebringer wrote:Gamma > harambae
Kagami > anti
Sheep > beeboy
I'd rather pair with Kokichi than Harambey, would rather pair with neither and if it comes down to us there a decent chance I just don't pair up, but I'd rather leave Harambey out to dry since I feel he's more contentious at this point and him being sorted will serve the town.
I will vote Park ur pair all game if u pair with kokichi
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:05 pm

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what if someone pairs w/ anti and then we just leave everyone else out

p.edit: the sacrifice was due to koki's frustrations w/ my tone and style of play
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:06 pm

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Ok it's settled I am pairing up with Sheep let's go.

pedit: I am fucking dead null on Harambay, opinions on mechanics don't change game by game. This is coming from someone who used largely relied on talking about mechanics in his newbie days while throwing in a few names to get town read as scum. Like I am sorry I can't town read someone for my newbie scum strat.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:06 pm

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In post 751, Alisae wrote:Well your play and approach here is extremely different.
In those past games, you weren't really worried about control.
Here you're a complete total control freak.
I don't even understand how you can say this because I know when I am controlling and I'm not trying to CONTROL ANYTHING that's not even in my nature I hate "controlling" anything
In post 751, Alisae wrote:Um
I think your WHOLE approach to my slot and the pairs completely suggests otherwise.
If that's not controlling then I don't really know what IS controlling, so feel free to educate me there
See above I don't even know what you think I am trying to control.
Give suggestion on pairs and tell Joey to not pair with you because you're scum? Yes
Do you call that controlling?
In post 751, Alisae wrote:You're not trying to address my thought process here.
Which has been stated in thread.
Multiple times.
I'll restate it again.
The reason why you want me to pair up with the IC, is so you can continue to hold your scumread on me during dance 1, then during intermission shoot someone that isn't me and Anti, and then push me during dance 2 saying "HEY LOOK, ALISAE IS SCUM BECAUSE ANTI IS STILL ALIVE."

And if you were an easy push, there would be a LOT more support for you.
Right now you're trying to put yourself as the victim, and its scummy.
Of course I wouldn't push that the IC pair not dying or dying is a giant wifom fest anyone who's played this should know that if you were with anti and didn't die that's a stupid angle to push in fact I'd prob perk a brow at anyone trying to push that angle I think your paranoia on people just pushing that is strange what victim card am I playing because trust me

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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:06 pm

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used to largely rely on*. kek English

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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:07 pm

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I'm either paired with Kagami or no one. You guys aren't going to choose who I'm paired with.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:07 pm

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In post 761, Firebringer wrote:
In post 750, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 749, Firebringer wrote:
In post 747, Maki Harukawa wrote:can I ask why people think Dunn is blatantly obv town
and if you don't think he's town what do you think on him.
He is Town cause ur scum
one day I will learn how to read you.
Today is not that day.
So for now.
Bad puppy.
I think u would post here that I don’t know how to read u as Town.
Not how u can’t read me.
I mean I already knew that you had a hard time reading me because you've said you're paranoia levels of me are high before.
It's just hard to see if it's paranoia or you're scum taking advantage because your scum and town games feel the same to me
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:07 pm

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In post 772, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm either paired with Kagami or no one. You guys aren't going to choose who I'm paired with.
Kagami is pairing with antihero
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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