Mini Normal 1989: A Perfectly Normal Day -- Game Over

[insanity018]

Votecount 1.9

Tchill13

(3): schadd_, Chickadee, profii

profii

(2): Jodaxq, Tchill13

Not Known 15

(2): Nero Cain, eth0s

Havo

(2): HeWhoSwims, Chumba

Chickadee

(1): osuka

HeWhoSwims

(1): Not Known 15

osuka

(1): sheepsaysmeep

Chumba

(1): Havo

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-02-15 17:30:00)

[insanity018]

replace me

Searching for a replacement for sheepsaysmeep.

[osuka]

Grammatical error lead to your "havo manipulation" push.

I don’t believe havo’s mistake was a grammatical one because when corrected he ignored it and continued his push on the wrong wording. That’s why I felt it was manipulative. If you make a mistake you admit it and apologize then move on. He didn’t do that.

IT WASN'T CORRECTED.

"You are Bad at being a town player"

If eth0s is scum here as havo already pushed then you make the assumption eth0s knows he's town and is telling him he's bad at being town. How would he know he's town? Because eth0s is scum from Havo's eyes.

ARE is present tense. You ARE playing this game right now.

You WERE is past. You WILL is future. You ARE is right now.

Not you ARE going to. It's literally you Are bad at being.

I'm not talking about grammar anymore.

i do wanna point out that saying "you're bad at X" doesn't even imply that they think you are X

so maybe all of you should work on your text comprehension

[osuka]

UNVOTE:
This game has just been really hard for me to get into, and therefor gets reads.

Tchill, you're going after semantics, but your semantics are wrong. "Bad at being a town player" is a general statement about someone's play style. The use of "are" is irrelevant here. It just means current play style.

VOTE: Tchill

chick's most sensible posts so far

VOTE: Tchill

For not understanding how "are" works or?

quickly followed by tchill's apparent inability to efficiently communicate with other people over text

[osuka]

but if Osuka read it perfectly, it wasn't that bad

kind of uncalled for

especially given that it really isn't me who's been having trouble reading the thread. oh well

[profii]

It was self deprecating if anything


I said I’d read Tchill reads based on who he’d look at when I flip town. He said maybe Havo, maybe eth0s, maybe a lurker. This is kinda loose but if I flip town there are no associations between me and anyone else, eth0s and havo didn’t ask me to get involved in that barney and I wasn’t particular motivated to initially. I don’t know how me town makes them scum because their play hasnt really been directed at me. I’m missing the link I have to say :-/

[Not Known 15]

Like help me understand your obsession with the very first person we wagoned and got to claim. Him claiming vt and not posting seems to go hand in hand. You have to convince people why something that is common on this site is scummy to you. I don’t think you can do that.

I still think that his relaxed reaction to a quickhammer threat was strange. It looked like scum trying to fake a townpost without having normal emotional reactions. Even a VT should be angry to be quickhammered on something that was, at that point, a RVS wagon. And because HWS is mainly lurking, there is not much more to assess... and if you have scummy actions on a lurker, they deserve to be strung up.
In this special case, lynching this lurker will definitely be a good idea also because they have claimed VT, which means they are no town power role, and with 2 VT claims already been made we cannot afford more claims this early, to protect our power roles we cannot keep putting people under claim pressure and then backing off.

[osuka]

Is this you advocating for a Havo policy lynch? I'm confused at this point of this post

no. I'm saying that any "Havo is scummy for hammering at L-1" will lead to a discussion about policy lynches.

Still about 10 pages behind but so far osuka, nk15 and sheep are my preferred lynches.

i'm still catching up (literally just read this post, haven't seen anything after it yet)

but assuming this is still the case, care to elaborate on the reasons for your lynchpool?

[osuka]

oh wait rip that was the end of the thread. sorry i'm stupid

[osuka]

Like help me understand your obsession with the very first person we wagoned and got to claim. Him claiming vt and not posting seems to go hand in hand. You have to convince people why something that is common on this site is scummy to you. I don’t think you can do that.

I still think that his relaxed reaction to a quickhammer threat was strange. It looked like scum trying to fake a townpost without having normal emotional reactions. Even a VT should be angry to be quickhammered on something that was, at that point, a RVS wagon. And because HWS is mainly lurking, there is not much more to assess... and if you have scummy actions on a lurker, they deserve to be strung up.
In this special case, lynching this lurker will definitely be a good idea also because they have claimed VT, which means they are no town power role, and with 2 VT claims already been made we cannot afford more claims this early, to protect our power roles we cannot keep putting people under claim pressure and then backing off.

please explain how being calm in that situation is AI

this is a shit reason for you to push him. if you're trying to get chumba lynched then by all means go ahead and push him but please, not for this reason. that just makes you look bad

[osuka]

ebwop: "get hws lynched", not chumba. sorry

read his name on the quote and mindlessly typed it on the post

[Chumba]

please explain how being calm in that situation is AI

[Not Known 15]

please explain how being calm in that situation is AI

Let's assess what type of mindset a player could have that could make them calm in this situation(near the start, quicklynch threat).
The player faked the post(scum mindset)
The player isnt actually really interested in the game(this can be town or scum, but that mindset is very anti-town)
The player isn't really angry because they know that their lynch is justified(scum mindset)
Two of these possibilities lead to scum.
The third does not, but it indicates a slot you don't want to have around at LYLO
None of these possibilities indicate that a lynch would be bad.
It is significantly likely that it is the first or the third option, which means that it is indicative for scum(makes it more likely that HWS is scum).

[profii]

not known - what’s your eth0s read ?

[Nero Cain]

but assuming this is still the case, care to elaborate on the reasons for your lynchpool?

it's mainly gut. I just feel you and sheep are a little different from our town games and I'm still liking the case on NK15. I guess add profi to that list too.

[eth0s]

ITT: my poor wording of something has turned into a meteor casting a shadow on the entire town

Once again.

Chumbas argument for havo being scum is a grammatical technicality lol.

This is stupid.

Chumba FINALLY came around on the fact that means and havo maybe scum together. Why did that take so long?

I've broken down chumba pretty clearly imo. I don't think he did a very good job at resisting it. More kicking and screaming.

Pretty clear where the manipulation is coming from but I'm gonna need the other half of the player list to get in here and help.

Imo chumba is playing a lot like derpy would be in this game so I can excuse his tunneling to a degree since we should be expecting it anyway. Idk I'm not trying to excuse either one of them but I definitely made my contribution to this shitshow. I still need to read like 5 pages to be caught up anyway

[osuka]

please explain how being calm in that situation is AI

Let's assess what type of mindset a player could have that could make them calm in this situation(near the start, quicklynch threat).
The player faked the post(scum mindset)
The player isnt actually really interested in the game(this can be town or scum, but that mindset is very anti-town)
The player isn't really angry because they know that their lynch is justified(scum mindset)
Two of these possibilities lead to scum.
The third does not, but it indicates a slot you don't want to have around at LYLO
None of these possibilities indicate that a lynch would be bad.
It is significantly likely that it is the first or the third option, which means that it is indicative for scum(makes it more likely that HWS is scum).

okay here's one:

maybe they just know that the probability of getting lynched off of an rvs wagon isn't all that high (and, that if they're town, whoever hammered and whoever pushed for it are obvious lynch candidates for d2)

[osuka]

but assuming this is still the case, care to elaborate on the reasons for your lynchpool?

it's mainly gut. I just feel you and sheep are a little different from our town games and I'm still liking the case on NK15. I guess add profi to that list too.

if you're talking about yoshi's large normal, i wouldn't use that particular game as meta for myself. i lurked because i didn't have enough time to play it and really probably should've replaced out

[Nero Cain]

I mean your still lurking a fair amount here but what I meant was that you seem way more focused and asking questions and I don't remember you really doing that.

[eth0s]

VOTE: profii

FoS: HWS

[insanity018]

brassherald replaces sheepsaysmeep. Please welcome him!

[Tchill13]

Osuka who's your scum reads?

[Tchill13]

Welcome brass Herald

[Chickadee]

Welcome, Brass, I look forward to actually getting content from your slot

[Tchill13]

This games odd.

Lots of useless arguing imo. Could be coming from mostly townplayers .

Too many lurkers. 2 scum could easily be lurking.