In post 473, Archwing wrote:And instead of responding to my argument, you attacked my character (calling me scummy), which is essentially the definition of an Ad-Hom argument.
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In post 473, Archwing wrote:And instead of responding to my argument, you attacked my character (calling me scummy), which is essentially the definition of an Ad-Hom argument.
So you know I’m town?In post 473, Archwing wrote:Keep your mind on your town game
I’ve attacked and disproven all of your arguments. I even showed how your arguments make you more likely to be scum.In post 473, Archwing wrote:instead of actually attacking the argument itself.
... what?In post 478, Chumba wrote:That isn’t ad hominem though. I’m not saying you in real life are scummy. I’m saying you in this game are scummy.
Please read this - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... the_PersonIn post 481, Archwing wrote:what?
in real life i am human, and belong to no mafia, werewolf, or any other "scum".
Ad-Hom refers to disregarding, or bypassing the argument on hand, and discrediting that said argument by "taking a stab" at the person making the argument. this has nothing to do with me being a serial killer in my spare time friend.
That wasn’t a misrep. If that wasn’t what you were saying, why not clarify?In post 481, Archwing wrote:nice misrep btw on the town game. maybe if you knew your town game better, you could be more deceptive as scum?
someone else mentioned this, i think?In post 317, Sephiroth wrote:unvote, vote: TIAM
Its absolutely absurd to claim that nothing interesting or worth commenting on has happened...
thats -3 I think, in case anyone was wondering.
Can people comment on this; particularly prism and moz sincr day ended before you guys responded? Were you townreading paradox, prism? If so why, and more importantly why did you vote him? Also what do you think of him now?In post 401, BuJaber wrote:Prism what do you think of Roy? If you didn't like TIAM'S wagon you could have voted for someone who actually had enough votes for them to be a realistic lynch.
Also it sounds like you're townreading both TIAM AND paradox. So your paradox vote looks fucking weird.
Nero's frustration feels fake to me. But also golden looks very shady so it's hard to argue with Nero.
Maybe I'm biased because I voted for him but I really don't like that the roy wagon seemed to be ignored and the focus shifted solely on TIAM. This began when they had about equal votes on them so it isn't just a case of TIAM has to go or we risk no lynch.
@moz - what do you mean by anti-buddying and how does the quote show that?
do you mean: "there was scum on TIAM lynch"?In post 416, Nero Cain wrote:Do you agree with that Moz?In post 408, Nero Cain wrote:Anyways, I think its near impossible that all the players town reading TIAM are town.
ummm ok? But sure, I'll buy one scum on the wagon. but that's not what I asked and I don't understand why you didn't really respond to the question that I asked. I guess though since you are pushing a "1 scum on, 2 scum off" thing then youIn post 488, mozamis wrote:do you mean: "there was scum on TIAM lynch"?In post 416, Nero Cain wrote:Do you agree with that Moz?In post 408, Nero Cain wrote:Anyways, I think its near impossible that all the players town reading TIAM are town.
Maybe. Wouldnt be surprised if just oen though, scum like to avoid mislynch if pos, and it did go quickly, so "scum hesitation" - all the hallmarks of a hasty town mislynch -ok, my vote didny count, but i was up for it as much as anyone else. the guy did nothing town...
tldr: guess is one scummer on wagon.
Right. It's arguably just scum WIFOM. That's obvious. The point is that I knew it would be perceived in this way, acknowledged it, and did it anyway.In post 454, Archwing wrote:I read that paragraph a few times TBH. I was never really sold on the intention behind it. And the fact that you had that in your pocket, ready to defend the town-cred attack, makes me suspicious, as if you had the next 5 steps planned out, like scum should do.
I touched on this a bit earlier in the day:In post 486, BuJaber wrote:Can people comment on this; particularly prism and moz sincr day ended before you guys responded? Were you townreading paradox, prism? If so why, and more importantly why did you vote him? Also what do you think of him now?
Re: Paradox I liked the one big post Paradox made initially but the second pass wasn't as good. The "thanks for scumclaiming" line was atrocious. Of the lurkers he was a better move for sure.In post 417, Prism wrote:Someone asked why I didn't vote Roy yesterday-to be blunt I thought most votes had already shifted off of him at the time of the Golden vote. Shortly after I made it I realized that was no longer the case but I saw he had a deluge of content I could sort through later. All of the following is after-the-fact justification because honestly I didn't think too much about it [Edited clarification: Voting Roy] at the time. It's not great but a Roy-townflip was a lot worse than a TIAM-townflip. Golden flipping town over TIAM would probably be a horizontal move in contrast, with either equal or better odds to flipping scum as Roy.
This is a lie. I never said anything about Luca's interactions with you, or even his read on you; I don't think they meant much at all. I explicitly described an entirely different reason for why I thought his flip made you more likely scum that had nothing to do with your interactions, but all about the kind of players scum would be aiming to shoot.In post 456, Chumba wrote:So my 2 scum reads think scum killed Luca because he suspected me but he didn’t actually suspect me. He said I could be sorted later.
Man if you guys tried to frame me you are going to be recked.
I’m sorry you don’t like it. Despite the arguments, I’m still most certain on roy.In post 486, BuJaber wrote:But for the record I don't like your reluctance to vote for him
it's not a lie because you specifically said luca's flip points to me being more likely scum.In post 492, Prism wrote:This is a lie. I never said anything about Luca's interactions with you, or even his read on you
257 is just him misrepping me, i don't really consider that valid suspicion, just shit play and given he flipped town I can confirm he played like shit this game.In post 493, Prism wrote:#257, 259, #267. All of these are clear statements of suspicion.
Lolno.In post 498, Lalendra wrote:I feel like Arch is a more experienced player than I am