Team Mafia 2018: White Flag — Day Six

[Dunnstral]

not entirely sure, but i don't think he actually believed in the eddie wagon in the first place. could be to avoid pressure for a poor vote on the wagon, could be to muddy up associatives. either way i think it's scummy play. the eddie wagon certainly seemed as if it was happening anyways. is there something specific about the people that changes something about this read, to you?

I'm still willing to vote/hammer that wagon, btw

[LicketyQuickety]

Ran, I'd like you to post a recent Scum game you were in.

[northsidegal]

don't believe that his rationale for voting marquis comes from a genuine place of conviction.

What does this mean?

Because what I described actually happened

marquis hadn't made a real post in about 6 real life days and in about 300 posts when you changed your vote. i find it hard to believe that it just struck you how marquis' posting earlier in the game was appealing to emotion and such, causing you to switch your vote there because it's somewhere you actually wanted to go back to. i just can't see any reason for that voting pattern outside of not really caring where you're voting at all, and i think that that mindset makes you scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

North, I know you haven't read much, but what's your read on me?

[Dunnstral]

don't believe that his rationale for voting marquis comes from a genuine place of conviction.

What does this mean?

Because what I described actually happened

marquis hadn't made a real post in about 6 real life days and in about 300 posts when you changed your vote. i find it hard to believe that it just struck you how marquis' posting earlier in the game was appealing to emotion and such, causing you to switch your vote there because it's somewhere you actually wanted to go back to. i just can't see any reason for that voting pattern outside of not really caring where you're voting at all, and i think that that mindset makes you scum.

It doesn't

I feel like you don't really care what I say, though

[Ranmaru]

Shea

:

ran, the concise version of my response to your 1631 is that your pool is

very

good, we disagree about your mastina point, and in general you had it right when it came to the scum preferences.

i think i'm less okay with an eddie lynch today, just because i'd like to lynch elsewhere.

@postie, if you're interested i was townreading eddie earlier on for this:

by the way, anyone else feel like 179 is a really weird thought? it's hard to put into words – it kind of feels like a pointless thing to say / comment on, maybe.

I was wondering who else was going to pick up on that.

the fact that he noticed this, didn't make a post about it and then made this comment about it just instinctually doesn't feel like the kind of thing scum would even think to fake. granted, there's always the chance that it wasn't faked and eddie could still be scum – scum still notice inconsistencies or a really weird tone even if they know that someone is town (and perhaps especially if they know that it's coming from their buddy). there's also the chance that i'm underselling eddie's scumgame, which i'm unfamiliar with.

on a reread of his iso perhaps this is too minor to justify more than a slight townlean, but i'm still not convinced on him being scum and i still think there are far more likely scum candidates.

I think it shows that she wasn't willing to commit to it without a genuine reason. She's been saying that she doesn't want Eddie because she's interested in other directions, but she doesn't vote, nor does she actually seem that interested in other directions to really disagree with the Eddie wagon. Note that in early game she gave Eddie a town read for a simple thing, and states she thinks he is less likely to be scum but doesn't re-evaluate this read on him. I think it implicates Scum NSG upon Scum Eddie.

[Ranmaru]

LQ

:

The Thing Mafia
Flavorless Mafia

[northsidegal]

marquis hadn't made a real post in about 6 real life days and in about 300 posts when you changed your vote. i find it hard to believe that it just struck you how marquis' posting earlier in the game was appealing to emotion and such, causing you to switch your vote there because it's somewhere you actually wanted to go back to. i just can't see any reason for that voting pattern outside of not really caring where you're voting at all, and i think that that mindset makes you scum.

It doesn't

I feel like you don't really care what I say, though

are you admitting that you

do

have that mindset?

@ran – not being willing to commit to something without a genuine reason makes me ... scum?

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ

:

The Thing Mafia
Flavorless Mafia

Those are horrible examples. Show me a game you got to endgame.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not very invested in the game right now, that doesn't make me scum, and I intend to complete this game, and it jsut struck me that maybe marquis was a better vote than eddie when I really considered it

What do you think of that, by the way? About the eddie/marquis wagons? Lynching me won't make those go away so

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm not very invested in the game right now, that doesn't make me scum, and I intend to complete this game, and it jsut struck me that maybe marquis was a better vote than eddie when I really considered it

What do you think of that, by the way? About the eddie/marquis wagons? Lynching me won't make those go away so

You've barely lifted a finger this game, why?

[Ranmaru]

LQ

: That's the most recent. Third most recent before that. Mafia on the Run You can see them all on my Wiki.

NSG

: Yes, especially if Eddie flips scum. You said you had Eddie as a town read earlier, when and why did that change to you not actually having a read on him?

[northsidegal]

that changed to a nullread when people pointed out that my reason for townreading him (way back at around post 552) wasn't actually that good and started wagoning him. you're really pulling something from a good while ago here.

[Ranmaru]

Did you ever state this? Also can you go more into me pulling something from a long time ago, what is the purpose of you saying that?

[northsidegal]

Did you ever state this? Also can you go more into me pulling something from a long time ago, what is the purpose of you saying that?

not really, i think that came right at the time that i started to fall behind. i brought it up because if you're trying to point out some kind of inconsistency then i'm saying i don't think it's valid because you're pulling something from a long while ago.

[Ranmaru]

Around here is #1365 that I want your thoughts on since you town read me.

[northsidegal]

i don't really understand the question. are you asking for my thoughts on eddie's 1365?

[Ranmaru]

Yes. I asked you oringally to tell me your thoughts on Eddie's push on me since you town read me.

[northsidegal]

the entire thing is pretty much a reach, especially the parts about sauce.

[Ranmaru]

How does that affect your read on Eddie?

[Ranmaru]

Votecount 2.14

EddieFenix(6)

~ Postie, Thestatusquo, Davsto, Cogito Ergo Sum, Lycanfire, LicketyQuickety

Dunnstral(3)

~ ActionDan, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal

Marquis(2)

~ EddieFenix, Dunnstral

northsidegal(1)

~ Ranmaru

LicketyQuickety(1)

~ Marquis


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[northsidegal]

in isolation? a bit more of a scumlean, but not much honestly. it seems like a scum desperation case, but i think reachy cases can come from town as well, and i have to wonder how much he really believes that he can get you lynched.

[Ranmaru]

What's your read on Marquis? Also since #1365 gives you a slight scum lean, would you be comfortable voting Eddie or no?

[northsidegal]

i mean, i'd be willing to vote eddie, i'm just more confident in dunnstral being scum. i have marquis as a townlean.

[Ranmaru]

Since when were you willing to vote eddie? Also, can you go into why you town lean Marquis?