Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[Beefster]

Official Vote Count 1-17

Guy_Named_Riggs

(5): Luca Blight, Havo, Awoo, Lexa, Cedrick

(L-2)

Cedrick

(4): rb, Alexcellent, Papa Zito, Mumble

Lexa

(1): havingfitz

Not Voting

(3): Guy_Named_Riggs, Eddie Cane, northsidegal

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-02-23 09:00:00)

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Looking for a replacement for Guy_Named_Riggs

If he posts before I find one, he can stay in the game.

[Luca Blight]

Like I don't really give a shit if someone scum reads me or cases me of that post gives me an indication of what alignment they are. If I can sort them as town I don't need to think about the post beyond that, if I call them out on it something is catching my eye or needs to be clarified

So you're basically saying you never respond to anyone's suspicion/points made against you?

It just seems peculiar to praise a strong townread's reasoning for suspecting you without any sort of explanation on your part.

Cane seems to know your meta like the back of his hand so I guess he can answer if this is normal for you.

[Luca Blight]

@Mod

- I trust Alex will be getting a prod soon? (I hate to keep pointing these things out but this inactivity really sets the game back)

You're all good. I regularly check the activity overview for obvious prods, so it's a little unnecessary, but I'm not bothered by you pointing this out.

[Lexa]

Like I don't really give a shit if someone scum reads me or cases me of that post gives me an indication of what alignment they are. If I can sort them as town I don't need to think about the post beyond that, if I call them out on it something is catching my eye or needs to be clarified

So you're basically saying you never respond to anyone's suspicion/points made against you?

It just seems peculiar to praise a strong townread's reasoning for suspecting you without any sort of explanation on your part.

Cane seems to know your meta like the back of his hand so I guess he can answer if this is normal for you.

That's not what I said no, I'll put it like this:

Luca makes a case against me where he comes to the conclusion that I'm scummy

Situation A: I find his thought process and reasoning to be strong and I think it's reflective of a town mindset. I know him to be wrong (or right!) but I don't feel the need to respond because I can sort his alignment from it which I may or may not comment on

Situation B: same as above except I don't follow his thought process and I'm not sure where he's coming from. I'll respond and engage with him, get him to explain further where he's coming from and try and use that understanding to sort him

Situation C: same as above except I find his reasoning to be garbage and scum indicative. I will respond and challenge him on it, defend myself and refute arguments as necessary until I've either determined he's scum or just town making a bad case

With Alex it was always less about the reasoning itself and more about the mindset that led to his reasoning

[Lexa]

Now that can obviously change if I'm close to a Lynch but in general I'm not really fussed by scum reads because I expect their read will change on me as the game progresses

[Lexa]

Oh also just a general heads up I start my new job on Tuesday so activity might be spotty while I get settled

[Luca Blight]

Thoughts on Alex's Cedrick vote?

[Alexcellent]

Sorry all, im around, dont mean to keep neglecting this game
At work at the moment but free to post after that

[Lexa]

Thoughts on Alex's Cedrick vote?

Nothing specific other than a general dislike of it. Can see where his mindset gets him to that though, weak reasoning but not uncommon. Could call it opportunistic maybe but honestly just feels lazy.

Off to bed

[Beefster]

Fissure replaces Guy_Named_Riggs

Play nice. Play fair. Have fun.

Wow. You joined today. Ballsy jumping into a 43-page game like that.

[Fissure]

Villager rand

I’ll be getting to reading the game shortly and giving my reads

In the meantime I would suggest unvoting me unless you would like to lynch a townie day 1

Let’s solve this thing

[northsidegal]

hello mulch

[northsidegal]

@eddie, caught up now.

[Fissure]

hello mulch

Isn’t mulch some type of dirt

[Fissure]

Cedrick, why do you want to hammer havo? You know this implies the final vote of a lynch correct? Is this a misunderstanding or do you actually want to lynch him? provide reasoning.

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I don't know what to make of Q's reaction to my vote. Made me say "wtf". Here's why I'm voting Q:

- Don't like his tone
- Asking a lot of unnecessary questions 34, seems like the only purpose of that is to """be town""" or show concern for the game
- 43 wtf
- What north said too
- Doesnt understand that im going to win the game 31
- 71 [talking about self voting] [Also, why are we arguing the merits of self-voting?] more useless posts why??
- 72 @Q ok what do you make of this? is it AI? because there are votes on lexa, so what do you think of that?
-74 - doing it again "look at me ive been asking those questions and analyzing" - you shouldnt have to bring this up. your ""townyness"" is being shoved in my face so much that I am forced to question your motivations!

oops sorry if i just made a case on the third page x-D

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PEDIT:
Hey north!! see my opener, im taking it easy now. this should have good results ))))))))

Well this seems bullshit

Towny bullshit or wolfy bullshit?

[Luca Blight]

NSG - can you post a reads list so we can see where you're at.

[northsidegal]

yeah, was just a little in joke – your name reminded me of another player on site named mulch. welcome

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i looked back over the whole fitz interaction. i think his reasoning here is a lot better than the forced reasoning he was using to justify his confidence in his scumread in the game i played with him as scum, but it's still notable.

Self meta alert!!! Not my scumplay style at all.

could you talk a little more about this? because i feel like the overconfidence was definitely there in c9++ and that's a large part of where my scumread on you was coming from. do you feel like that game isn't representative of your scumgame or what?

[Fissure]

rb, why are you townreading awoo?

hes got dat town swagger

This is probably enough to townread RB at this point I think

[Awoo]

am I really that scary that everyone I scumread replaces out?

Hey fissure, why would you call my post bullshit then not take a stance on it? Hint: if you're mafia here don't fuck around with me I'm not mislynchable

[Fissure]

I’m getting towny vibes from north


(This is just first reactions from reading the game, more in depth analysis and reasons will folllow)

[Fissure]

am I really that scary that everyone I scumread replaces out?

Hey fissure, why would you call my post bullshit then not take a stance on it? Hint: if you're mafia here don't fuck around with me I'm not mislynchable

Calling your post bullshit means I’m taking a stance

I haven’t figured out whether your post is town that thinks they are hot shit and aren’t, or scum trying to appear towny

I’ll own your soul soon enough. If you are town you don’t have anything to worry about

[northsidegal]

NSG - can you post a reads list so we can see where you're at.

i was going to say "no" because i didn't feel like my reads were solid enough to confidently order people, but i tried my hand at it and made it kind of broad.

{luca, mumble, eddie}
{alex, fissure, havo, zito, rb}
{fitz, awoo, cedrick, lexa}
{}

[Awoo]

i dont like the whole soul thing but ok good night xD X(

[northsidegal]

wait, awoo, did you ever answer my question about still scumreading numberq / eddie?

[Fissure]

Texas my eyes glaze over when I read your posts. That happens when you're scum. When you're town, you gamesolve and I nod my head and go along with it because we think similarily. this has been true in... every game i've seen you play on our home site? here, we've played together twice.

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=71319 - game with lexa on site. svs. he subbed d1... not a lot to say

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353 - game with lexa on site. t me v s him. vigged n1, not a lot to say. did that garbage wallpost, though it's a /little/ different from here, wrapped around a bunch of sparse comments.

i will give lexa credit: his play here is different than those games. and, on our home site, i think i've seen 6 or 7 of his game... and all were town except 1. in that 1, it was similar to here, very glossy and just in general weak thoughts. texas has a pretty shitty scum game, and a pretty damn good town game. he's not playing pretty damn good here, and that means he's very likely scum.

This is probably the best post I’ve seen so far