Eddie: A50 kill makes sense with Math being town (shocker). Broke up a solid townbloc. Bins looks worse. Bulba looks a little worse. Nothing groundbreaking.
Eddie:T-Bone kill is ... odd. Maybe scum caught a crumb we didn't? T-Bone was unlikely to ever get lynched, after Titus expressed our team's desire not to pursue T-Bone anymore and went more towards the scum!Radja camp. Makes CK and Radja look wrose.
Titus: I see where Eddie is coming from, but I'd see us as a more likely kill in that scenario. We've been repeatedly angle pushed for consistently vetoing town lynches while tunnelling Radja. So I can't say Radja looks worse from the TBone kill and TBone didn't have the desire to go after Chesskid.
Note: We're not commenting on the circumstances but only that we know he's town.
Eddie: Mathdino mindmelded with me a shit ton this game. If you expect me to ignore his thoughts now that he's dead, fuck you. In 2968 he lamented a lynch order of Elena > Bins > T-Bone > Titus > Bulbazak > Radja/chesskid. Now, this is Bins > Titus > Bulba > Radja / CK. Again, looks worse on Bins/Radja/CK as well as (tit)Us and Bulba. 2977 is also good as a defense to our slot (lol) but his reads are pretty off from mine and Math's. :shrug: GL a good player so something to keep in mind.
Titus: Well, I'll take a more reserved approach. Mathdino was never a scum target but universally townread. So he was likely wrong somewhere. Still, I love the general approach of listening to townreads. Remind me to set a time with you to go through all the reads to see if they were killed or if scum pushed a lynch for being correct. I want to see if that holds for Elena.
Eddie feels that Smociane vote parked LLD. If chesskid could relay the teams thoughts at that point, that would be awesome as it might explain what Eddie feels is a votepark.
Maria lives matter! Having Bins / Dunker / Titus / T-Bone as a town core is really good of Maria because I have Dunker as strong town. Does throw a wrench in scum!Bins though :d. Wanting to lynch Key and Math is annoying because it hurts my impression that Key is incredibly obvious town and town!key means Maria was flat out wrong. Actually, read further, Bulba and Xyzzy top 2 s cumreads is alright. Not great, but alright.
If Elena was lynched because town disagreed with her and scum coasted, then the accuracy of her reads does not mean much. Yet, if scum drummed up the Elena wagon and sat back then that would be beneficial. It's worth another read through of the Elena wagon knowing she's town.
So, fun stuff, reads time! There's 7 townies and 2 scummies to sort, so those aren't bad odds. I will say, my reads are a lot weaker in this game than they usually are, but dunno. Still feel alright with where I'm at. Most of my strong townreads are dying (Math / A50) which is awesome [/sarcasm]
Key is town from play imo. Regardless, Fire flipping scum in the other game makes Key a lot more likely town. I am accounting for Chara / Elena, along with Titus, but still think this slot is hard town. <-- I'm agreeing to respect this for now. I just hate RC's basic inattention or discussing to this game and sudden "my bad/reaction test" and then leaving.
Dunker is still quite town. Pushing against Elena looks good. <-- Agreed here
It is bad I could see anyone after this being scum very easily, but that makes me feel better about these two reads at least.
Bulba still seems quite townie. Don't understand the points against him really. Requesting Mastina and Thor to give this game time, it is needed if you (bulba) are town.
CDB still pretty townie but really needs to participate more. Singer is one of the best people in TM18, get her to read this game pretty please. Fench / Pat / CES are also all good, you have one of the strongest teams so I think it is really important you get them to participate here as the second game came to a close and TM is winding down. Tell Patrick particularly Eddie requests he reads this.
After this, it gets a lot harder. {Archwing / Xyzzy / CK / Radja / Bins} hopefully contains both scum, making {Titus / Keychain / Bulba / CDB / Dunker} the townbloc. Unfortunately, not confident enough to lock that off , but it is a starting place. Isn't Bins supposed to be an easy read? :shrug:
It is sad, because I am not confident calling anyone in this group town. The thing that makes Radja the towniest is that I would think every one of his teammates except Cheet takes scum over him; Reck / Hip flipped town and both have particularly good scum games supposedly. I think he's probably town cause of that. The problem is, that Titus case was really bad and Cheet / TSQ / Reck / Hip are all good players; this is another one of the top teams, and the slot has been completely useless. I want in depth stuff from Reck and Cheet at least who are dead and done; Hip and TSQ would be nice too. Solve the game, you have the capability. Case CK for me. And, most importantly, explain what changed your mind about our slot and why you were so sure we were scum.
Radja does have a lot of individual scum equity, so I'm happy looking there today. Radja v CK as the wagons today would be awesome. I want to see them 1v1 and tryhard. CK has a lot of town points, so he can be the towniest in this pool until Radja shows me otherwise
Archwing should be town, but UCV refusing to swap with Creature, awful supposed reads from Creature on the rare chance they come up, and UCV's very weird Fitz stuff... dunno. Can be 3rd. Creature, do more. Sort the game as if I'm town, tell me what you think. We need your stream of consciousness to sort you.
Then, there's Xyzzy and Bins. I need someone else to show me why Bins is town, because the reads on that slot are the most bipolar things in the game. I see lock town and lock scum everywhere. I just can't see it right now, scum!Mariar was the nail in the coffin for me. Xyzzy has been useless all game and has trash reads.
All in all,
{Key / Dunker}
{CDB / Bulba}
{Archwing / CK / Radja}
{Bins / Xyzzy}
And what's worst is I can see Bulba scum argument too, which is really bad because it shows just how bad my reads could be. Urgh. Slots, stop being scummY!! ):
Titus's reads
Dunker/Mina (formerly CDB)/chesskid
Bulba
Bins
Archwing ZZYZ Radja