Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I was planning to come in here with a fake guilty on someone

Who?

-Smart

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

But would he also call out that he noticed the soft?

Possibly? I don't really see why not, if that's what he thought he'd do as town.

-Smart

[Auro]

Didn't decide, lol.

[acryon]

But would he also call out that he noticed the soft?

Possibly? I don't really see why not, if that's what he thought he'd do as town.

-Smart

Well because in this case we now

know

he spotted the soft and his actions were driven by it. Wouldn't scum rather not have the town know that he knew?

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I mean, are we suspecting him because we know that scum figured out the soft and we know that he figured out the soft? I don't really think revealing it would be detrimental to scum-him, since it's entirely possible that scum figured out the soft and didn't let on that they did.

-Smart

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

In other words, it's a big ball of WIFOM.

-Smart

[acryon]

I mean, are we suspecting him because we know that scum figured out the soft and we know that he figured out the soft? I don't really think revealing it would be detrimental to scum-him, since it's entirely possible that scum figured out the soft and didn't let on that they did.

-Smart

I guess I still feel like it is detrimental to scum him. There's just no reason to ever point it out as scum.

[acryon]

At least not commenting gives you the flexibility of acting like you either did or didn't notice it. Directly commenting on it just limits your options.

[Auro]

I mean, are we suspecting him because we know that scum figured out the soft and we know that he figured out the soft? I don't really think revealing it would be detrimental to scum-him, since it's entirely possible that scum figured out the soft and didn't let on that they did.

I think I'm going deeper than that? Specifically how his confidence can affect his dayplay and trajectory towards the lynch and willingness to be in the bloc, etc.
I don't think many scum confidently choose to NK Allomancer.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I mean, are we suspecting him because we know that scum figured out the soft and we know that he figured out the soft? I don't really think revealing it would be detrimental to scum-him, since it's entirely possible that scum figured out the soft and didn't let on that they did.

I think I'm going deeper than that? Specifically how his confidence can affect his dayplay and trajectory towards the lynch and willingness to be in the bloc, etc.
I don't think many scum confidently choose to NK Allomancer.

I think Smart’s post was @acryon who seems to be saying that scum!GL wouldn’t reveal that he knew it was a soft

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I mean, are we suspecting him because we know that scum figured out the soft and we know that he figured out the soft? I don't really think revealing it would be detrimental to scum-him, since it's entirely possible that scum figured out the soft and didn't let on that they did.

I think I'm going deeper than that? Specifically how his confidence can affect his dayplay and trajectory towards the lynch and willingness to be in the bloc, etc.

I think I agree with you here that GL has some confusing switches in his stance on being in the bloc but I’m not sure yet whether I think it’s ill-intentioned.

I don't think many scum confidently choose to NK Allomancer.

Why is that?

- Smarter

[Auro]

Remove the confidence in Allo being a TA, and suddenly he's a crappy option to NK, no? Given at least a few very vocal players (like me) were pushing him and fine with his lynch.
It doesn't look like the kind of kill that most people as scum would typically make.

[Eve]

the scumteam's probably quite competent if they correctly ascertained Allo was traffic guy and risked killing a highly mislynchable potential townie

VOTE: skitter

it's you isn't it

Excuse me?

-Smart

you are excused

[acryon]

Remove the confidence in Allo being a TA, and suddenly he's a crappy option to NK, no? Given at least a few very vocal players (like me) were pushing him and fine with his lynch.
It doesn't look like the kind of kill that most people as scum would typically make.

I agree with this, but I'm not sure how that helps us necessarily.

[acryon]

It was kind of me, but it was because I wanted more information before deciding on a lynch, not because I specifically didn’t want to lynch Allomancer.

Do you have

any

thoughts on this game and who might be scum/town? Thoughts on the interactions with the Allo wagon, etc?

The is the only post of even mild substance in basically two weeks.

@Auro, I think Allomancer towned up in his recent posts. Why is it that you still think he should be the lynch?

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

1. Whether there was something else that made it obvious. Skitter said GL "likely" saw it, when GL blatantly responded to it with "better not be what I think it is" after that statement - a little fishy

i'm not following, what do you think is fishy there?

[skitter30]

Uh I don’t think you’re understanding my question.

Wouldn’t scum who saw the soft just let the wagon go so they can use the NK? What need is there to force a claim?

i mean they could have made the reasoning for the nk obvious by forcing allo to get run up and then forcing him to claim
and also it would have been a pretty easy to substantiate the guess without much drawback to it, it's not like anybody would have questioned allo being forced to claim really

[skitter30]

Theory question: would scum always go for a NL over ML? Like, is it better for them to have town!nom lynched D1 or no lynch at all?

- Smarter

... always go for a mislynch, it doesn't really help scum to put themselves on evens

[skitter30]

1. Looks a little fake

ok, in what way is it fake?

[skitter30]

So @acryon, who out of those deflating the Allo wagon do you think did so the most suspiciously?

Cause I kinda think it’s you. You were the first one to back off the wagon but at deadline you were happy to divert attention from the nom wagon which was basically the only viable wagon at that point and you tried to lynch Allomancer instead.

- Smarter

that is a ... remarkably backwards way of looking at acryon's vote there

also have you two discussed the flip at all together?

[BBmolla]

Sorry y’all I can’t get to this till tomorrow

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

So @acryon, who out of those deflating the Allo wagon do you think did so the most suspiciously?

Cause I kinda think it’s you. You were the first one to back off the wagon but at deadline you were happy to divert attention from the nom wagon which was basically the only viable wagon at that point and you tried to lynch Allomancer instead.

- Smarter

that is a ... remarkably backwards way of looking at acryon's vote there

also have you two discussed the flip at all together?

A bit but not much.

What about it do you think is backwards? It seemed like acryon was getting cold feet about a nom wagon as we got close to deadline and he tried to restart an Allo wagon. It’s possible that at that point scum could have pushed a deadline Allo lynch without getting a hardclaim. Do you disagree?

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

It was kind of me, but it was because I wanted more information before deciding on a lynch, not because I specifically didn’t want to lynch Allomancer.

Do you have

any

thoughts on this game and who might be scum/town? Thoughts on the interactions with the Allo wagon, etc?

The is the only post of even mild substance in basically two weeks.

@Auro, I think Allomancer towned up in his recent posts. Why is it that you still think he should be the lynch?

UNVOTE:

Also yeah Sausasaurus hasn’t done anything and I’m gonna go dig up some questions I remember asking him

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

He didn’t even say what his thoughts were on nom when he voted her

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Sausasaurus you have yet to respond to my 417 and 437.

Also, what was your read on Allomancer when you voted him in 802?

- Smarter