Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.4

Target	Wagon
Karnage (2)	skitter30 (1312), GuiltyLion (1313)
Titus (2)	acryon (1427), BBmolla (1447)
skitter30 (1)	Eve (1317)
Not Voting (4)	Titus, The Limit Does Not Exist, Karnage, Auro

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

[Titus]

If GuiltyLion is scum, his partner is not likely skitter or acryon. It would only be BBMolla if scum desperately felt scared and needed to control the wagons today, and I don't see that happening.

That leaves Eve, TLDNE, Karnage and Auro. I don't see scum!GL bussing Karnage here. So remove Karnage.

So if GL is scum, then Eve, TLDNE, or Auro is likely his partner.

[Titus]

Wait this is a three scum left game, so that means two out of those three are likely scum.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

SETUP
The setup is City That Never Sleeps.
2 Mafia Goons
1 Traffic Analyst
8 City Planners

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

If GuiltyLion is scum, his partner is not likely skitter or acryon. It would only be BBMolla if scum desperately felt scared and needed to control the wagons today, and I don't see that happening.

That leaves Eve, TLDNE, Karnage and Auro. I don't see scum!GL bussing Karnage here. So remove Karnage.

So if GL is scum, then Eve, TLDNE, or Auro is likely his partner.

Can you answer my question?

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Oops I didn’t mean to quote that

[Titus]

Now I'm going to run the numbers if GL is town.

Very little wagon participation suggests Karnage is town. Scum are likely off the wagon as well. I would tenatively put BBMolla as scum in that setup because of scum wanting to get wagons going. That's weak though. I just don't like all the scum off the major town wagons in a T v T.

That still leaves two scum in Eve, TLDNE, and Auro.

If we suppose Karnage is scum, then we can safely put skitter and GL as town. BBMolla scum equity increases. Then you'd look at one off the wagons to ensure that they could swing a wagon if need be.

Pedit: Which post? Sorry I got a bit eggheady this morning.

[Titus]

Why do you consider GL to be voteparking but not skitter?

- Smarter

I think this is it.

I consider GL's votepark more of a scummy votepark. Skitter looks more like a tunnel than a lazy votepark if that makes sense from just eyeballing the VCA.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Why do you consider GL to be voteparking but not skitter?

- Smarter

I think this is it.

I consider GL's votepark more of a scummy votepark. Skitter looks more like a tunnel than a lazy votepark if that makes sense from just eyeballing the VCA.

Thanks. Can you explain what about the VCA makes them seem different to you?

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Also I know VCA is your thing - we had a lot of movement around wagon composition, so people who would normally be on the wagon (ie they were advocating for it) were off the wagon in order to be coppable, so I’m guessing that probably impacts your VCA.

- Smarter

[Auro]

Hm I think Titus is town for the slip

Let's lynch Skitter?

[Auro]

Auro and GL I love your hydra avatar

Aww, thanks ^_^ I love it too.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Quotes

Votecount 1.3

Target	Wagon
GuiltyLion (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (5), acryon (15)
The Limit Does Not Exist (2)	SausasaurusRex (6), Auro (42)
nomnomnom (2)	Karnage (26), Eve (118)
acryon (2)	skitter30 (104), GuiltyLion (106)
Eve (1)	Allomancer (14)
Karnage (1)	BBmolla (7)
Not Voting (1)	nomnomnom (179)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.4

Target	Wagon
acryon (3)	skitter30 (104), GuiltyLion (106), Allomancer (215)
nomnomnom (2)	Karnage (26), Eve (118)
Allomancer (2)	nomnomnom (211), The Limit Does Not Exist (213)
The Limit Does Not Exist (1)	Auro (42)
GuiltyLion (1)	acryon (15)
Karnage (1)	BBmolla (7)
Not Voting (1)	SausasaurusRex (219)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Btw @mod, when will sarusuarus rex or however you spell it be prodded?

I prod players after 48 hours of inactivity.

Votecount 1.5

Target	Wagon
Allomancer (4)	nomnomnom (211), The Limit Does Not Exist (213), GuiltyLion (229), Eve (241)
acryon (2)	Allomancer (215), BBmolla (243)
nomnomnom (1)	Karnage (26)
The Limit Does Not Exist (1)	Auro (42)
GuiltyLion (1)	acryon (15)
Not Voting (2)	SausasaurusRex (219), skitter30 (231)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.12

Target	Wagon
Allomancer (3)	nomnomnom (211), The Limit Does Not Exist (213), GuiltyLion (229)
Eve (3)	Auro (330), BBmolla (354), acryon (378)
acryon (1)	Allomancer (215)
BBmolla (1)	Eve (361)
Not Voting (3)	SausasaurusRex (219), skitter30 (231), Karnage (299)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.18

Target	Wagon
Allomancer (4)	nomnomnom (211), Eve (533), acryon (711), The Limit Does Not Exist (713)
Eve (2)	Auro (330), BBmolla (354)
acryon (1)	Allomancer (215)
GuiltyLion (1)	skitter30 (612)
Not Voting (3)	SausasaurusRex (219), Karnage (299), GuiltyLion (717)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.20

Target	Wagon
Eve (3)	nomnomnom (963), acryon (1036), The Limit Does Not Exist (1039)
nomnomnom (3)	Eve (868), skitter30 (1055), GuiltyLion (1076)
Allomancer (1)	SausasaurusRex (802)
Karnage (1)	Allomancer (850)
Not Voting (4)	BBmolla (786), Karnage (1028), Auro (1041)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Apologies for my absence. It will not happen again.

Votecount 1.26

Target	Wagon
nomnomnom (3)	GuiltyLion (1076), The Limit Does Not Exist (1116), Eve (1189)
Karnage (1)	Allomancer (850)
Eve (1)	nomnomnom (1238)
Not Voting (6)	BBmolla (786), Karnage (1028), Auro (1041), SausasaurusRex (1157), acryon (1163), skitter30 (1192)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.27

Target	Wagon
Karnage (3)	Allomancer (850), GuiltyLion (1256), nomnomnom (1271)
nomnomnom (3)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1116), Eve (1189), BBmolla (1272)
Allomancer (1)	acryon (1252)
Not Voting (4)	Karnage (1028), Auro (1041), SausasaurusRex (1157), skitter30 (1192)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

Votecount 1.Final

Target	Wagon
nomnomnom (6)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1116), Eve (1189), BBmolla (1272), acryon (1286), SausasaurusRex (1289), nomnomnom (1300)
Karnage (2)	Allomancer (850), GuiltyLion (1256)
Not Voting (3)	Karnage (1028), Auro (1041), skitter30 (1192)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. nomnomnom has been lynched.

When I look at these VCs, I see a very sheepish, survivalist and static GuiltyLion. He is more about voting the counter when he's wagoned early, and then just lurks on the popular wagons. That's exactly where someone would want to be avoiding the cop.

Pedit: I inferred the Allomancer wagon derailed because he claimed Traffic Analyst. Is this not the case?

[Auro]

Wait, Titus, where did you read that he claimed TA?

[Titus]

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Titus]

Wait, Titus, where did you read that he claimed TA?

I didn't. I inferred that's why his wagon dissolved and he was the N1 nightkill. I haven't read on subbing in. It's not what I do.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Hm I think Titus is town for the slip

Let's lynch Skitter?

Slip? As in not realizing we did the stuff related to wagon comp? I don’t think that’s AI, why do you?

I could be down to lynch skitter but I want a replacement for karnage first. And more content from Titus.

- Smarter

[Auro]

@TLDNE: That there are 3 scum.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

@Titus: Allo softclaimed when he was at L-1. Acryon unvoted on the basis that he thought allo was following town meta (I think), GL unvoted because we saw the soft, that deflated the wagon.

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

because he saw the soft* although I did see it too

- Smarter

[Titus]

@Titus: Allo softclaimed when he was at L-1. Acryon unvoted on the basis that he thought allo was following town meta (I think), GL unvoted because we saw the soft, that deflated the wagon.

- Smarter

because he saw the soft* although I did see it too

- Smarter

Ok that's good enough for me. Scum presumably saw the soft then making it a hard claim. My analysis should still remain intact.

[Titus]

@TLDNE: That there are 3 scum.

Don't TR me for this alone. I've forgotten who my scumbuddies are as scum before. I'm an absent minded professor. You are right I am town, but slips just aren't things people should use IMO.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

When I look at these VCs, I see a very sheepish, survivalist and static GuiltyLion. He is more about voting the counter when he's wagoned early, and then just lurks on the popular wagons. That's exactly where someone would want to be avoiding the cop.

I don’t think GL was wagoned early - our vote and acryon’s vote on him were both from RVS, then we voted elsewhere and GL voted acryon and acryon said “my GL vote is now serious.” Afaik no one else was on a GL wagon? Is there some other wagon you’re referring to?

I also wouldn’t say he was lurking on popular wagons, I think to some extent this is muddled by the wagon comp stuff. Iirc he was the first one pushing karnage and nom D1 (which led to nom lynch).

- Smarter

[Auro]

Okay then, help lynch scum today and I'll TR you

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I guess mislynching nom isn’t really a point in his favor, but at that point I think most people were townreading nom, and I think he was one of the first people to push her so I definitely wouldn’t have called that static or survivalistic.

- Smarter