Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[SirCakez]

clidd what do you gain from my flip?

I can verify if my 1310 is correct or not.

Ok I hate that kind of logic/playstyle from that post but I understand it. And it's wrong. I don't understand how you're getting Ame!Town.

[Zulfy]

Yeah u do

[clidd]

I believe Scum!Cakez is competent enough to create the bus narrative in Hajimari/Brass.

[clidd]

clidd what do you gain from my flip?

I can verify if my 1310 is correct or not.

Ok I hate that kind of logic/playstyle from that post but I understand it. And it's wrong. I don't understand how you're getting Ame!Town.

I recently played as Ame's scum partner in a finished game, so I understand the way she plans as scum and I can say that she is very likely town due to the lack of an agenda here. I'll only see my PoE as wrong when I see your flip.

[SirCakez]

So after I flip town, where are you going next?
Trying to get in your mind here.

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #8

Blatant Scum (0):
Umlaut (1): Ame (1594)
clidd (0):
Hoctac (0):
Ame (2) (L-3): SirCakez (1286), Looker (1504)
Looker (1): Umlaut (1577)

SirCakez (3) (L-2): clidd (1470), Zulfy (1512), Blatant Scum (1656)

Not Voting (2): Auro, Hoctac (1295)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 23, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-23 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2. This game will use a combination of manual and automated votecounts. (The automated ones are made using MathBlade's Vote Scrubber.) I will mainly start by posting an automated votecount and then edit in a manual one later. This allows me to spot errors in the automated votecount as well as build the voting history for the game.
3.

Please note the prod timers. You will be prodded after 32 hours on Tuesday-Friday.

[clidd]

So after I flip town, where are you going next?
Trying to get in your mind here.

If you flip town, I will discard what I have inferred so far on my PoE/solve and individually reevaluate each slot depending on the NK.

[clidd]

But for that I need confirmation of your flip. People lie, mechanics don't.

[Ame]

Ame, did you crumb the result you had on Brass?

I did not. The day ended before I had a chance to do anything.

[Ame]

Cake, can you point me to some of your scum games?

[Ame]

Thanks for the links!
The point I'm getting at is that scum players who are conscious of being logically coherent also devote energy into maintaining that logical flow before they make a move. It would be odd for such scum to lazily sit somewhere, and then say "whoops, I guess I was wrong then" and shift gears suddenly without justifying their earlier move. Hence, I'd say that this inconsistent-ish behavior from "logic-conscious" scum would actually be a mild towntell!

Hmmm

[Ame]

Maybe you're right. I wouldn't put much weight into my reads. I tend to have a lower accuracy than rand.

[Auro]

I actually townread Cakez, unless Umlaut+Cakez is exactly the scumteam - but I think individually by play he's also town for now. I'll be here tomorrow.

[SirCakez]

So after I flip town, where are you going next?
Trying to get in your mind here.

If you flip town, I will discard what I have inferred so far on my PoE/solve and individually reevaluate each slot depending on the NK.

But for that I need confirmation of your flip. People lie, mechanics don't.

Kinda hate this response. It's basically just handwaving away the question when I was obviously looking for something more concrete than "I'll reevaluate"

Cake, can you point me to some of your scum games?

My only recent scum game is as 3p in this game - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=82341

Much older: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68256
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67645
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=65649
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=65280
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=69095
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=65700
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=66305
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=66274

[clidd]

Do you think I'm scum trying to mislynch you, Cakez ?

[SirCakez]

It's more likely after that response

[Umlaut]

Prodge. But also

So after I flip town, where are you going next?
Trying to get in your mind here.

If you flip town, I will discard what I have inferred so far on my PoE/solve and individually reevaluate each slot depending on the NK.

If Cakez is town this looks like an excuse to move pretty much anywhere tomorrow.

[Zulfy]

yes

[clidd]

It's more likely after that response

Nothing you have told me so far has given me the impression that I am wrong.

[Blatant Scum]

1 day, 17 hours, 43 minutes

Can we get a claim before 1 day mark, please?

[clidd]

Prodge. But also

So after I flip town, where are you going next?
Trying to get in your mind here.

If you flip town, I will discard what I have inferred so far on my PoE/solve and individually reevaluate each slot depending on the NK.

If Cakez is town this looks like an excuse to move pretty much anywhere tomorrow.

Yes, that is my plan. Hardtunnel on D3 after losing a partner on D2 is the best strategy nowadays.

[Blatant Scum]

I mean, there are roles like friendly neighboard or vigilante which actually should be spared and moving to another wagon in few hours is complicated.

[clidd]

I need someone to put him at L-1. Unless he wants to claim at L-2.

[Hoctac]

I think it's very likely 1 or even both scum were bussing brass, the lynch happened way to quickly and brass was happy to end the day to prevent further discussion.

[Hoctac]

Day 2 VC #4 (FINAL)

Hoctac (0):

brassherald (6) (HAMMER @ 1251): SirCakez (1190), Hoctac (1192), valoneast (1195), Zulfy (1209), Looker (1250), brassherald (1251)

SirCakez (2): Ame (1189), farside22 (1191)
Not Voting (3): clidd, Reundo, Umlaut

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 23, 2020 11:00 AM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-23 11:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2. This game will use a combination of manual and automated votecounts. (The automated ones are made using MathBlade's Vote Scrubber.) I will mainly start by posting an automated votecount and then edit in a manual one later. This allows me to spot errors in the automated votecount as well as build the voting history for the game.
3.

Please note the prod timers. You will be prodded after 32 hours on Tuesday-Friday.

4. Ame is V/LA until Friday, May 15, 2020.

Actually, it's either:

• Brass was bussed, 1 or both scum hopped on and pushed him. brass self-hammered to cut discussion short.
  
• Town were correct in scumreading brass, so brass had very little to no chance of getting out of the lynch and wanted to cut discussion short, so hammered.