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We shouldn't be voting today. It's mylo.
Scum will kill either me or ThinkBig. Me, if they fear my result. ThinkBig, if they want to eliminate conftown.
If any in the three suspects wish to discuss things, they can. But I think we're done here.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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shhIn post 1927, ThinkBig wrote:I disagree. We should absolutely lynch today“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Not sure how this makes sense. I've been wanting Lexa lynched since the start of the day, and even when people have gone whacko with crap VCA that ignores literally the entire game (are we playing mafia, or is this some bullshit algebra type problem? Either way Titus has led you barking up the wrong tree).In post 1913, ThinkBig wrote:With Garmr's flip, I'm feeling confident about Lexa/Devil as a team
Stop being led by the nut sack by Titus? She's ignored everything to do with the actual game in favour of just looking at VCA, actually play the game, and think about things.In post 1918, ThinkBig wrote:1. shannon
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I'm 80% sure Shannon is town. He claim checks out and makes sense from a town perspective. However, my paranoia comes from her throwing shades at Gin. My other paranoia is that throughout the game, I've had a fairly strong town read on Devil. What to do about that?
In MyLo we No Lynch and let scum reduce our pool for us, then we can actually lynch tomorrow. We get more information as town (though we already know Gin or TB are being targeted by scum, but there's information in who they hit as long as we don't discuss that shite prior to it), and then we have less chance of a mislynch.In post 1918, ThinkBig wrote:In this position, is it best for us to lynch or no lynch for Titus to get some results?
Hearing from everyone is a good move, and attempting to do anything at this stage without that is important, so yeah, lets hear from everyone first.In post 1920, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Thinkbig, it's important that you do the same until all the opinions of Lexa, Prana, and Shannon are given. I don't want you posting until you've received a prod/Input from all 3 have been given.
Erm... Gin isn't confirmed town now? That's an interesting thing to come to...In post 1926, Titus wrote:We shouldn't be voting today. It's mylo.
Scum will kill either me or ThinkBig. Me, if they fear my result. ThinkBig, if they want to eliminate conftown.
If any in the three suspects wish to discuss things, they can. But I think we're done here.
Also, top marks on the wifom as to why you wont die. The fact there are four claimed JOAT roles is all kinds of bullshit still, one of those roles is lying, and I believe Gin, so on that front, shannon or Titus are lying, and I really don't like how Titus got the lynch off Lexa (especially as now she's apparently all for Lexa being lynched (ignoring the MyLo stuff thanks to Garmr being a complete tit), but is more focused on me... so get people off Lexa and focused on me, and now accuse the very person who was already being pressured, now there's no pressure and attention in elsewhere, just in case they are lynched...)
So for today we No Lynch, tomorrow we can lynch Lexa, and I'm more than happy to get Titus lynched too considering the obvious derailing of the Lexa wagon despite somehow thinking Lexa is scum... you don't derail a wagon of someone you believe is scum.
Also, Garmr may have been a complete moron in his exit of the game (and I'm refusing to be a part of any game he's in, and will replace out instantly on any game he enters from on out, anything said during a game shouldn't be taken personally in the first place, as everyone is arguing from the position of their role, so to do what he did, and then attempt to ruin the entire game the way he did, just means he can easily do it again, I refuse to spend ages playing a game and have it ruined at the end just because he doesn't know how to play the game), however, some of his stuff was still right, ignoring his stupidity, and the LQ lynch, he seemed to be on the money a lot of the time, he was right with karnos, he was right with Alisae, and his stuff about how Titus was very hypocritical with her posts has been overlooked on the basis of just playing follow the leader, somehow because she's buddied up to people, and I couldn't give a toss if you like my play, my aim is to get town to win, and the legit only reason ANYONE outside of Titus is questioning me is my refusal to claim (I'll point out now, too, that I never once claimed, I made a light nod towards something, but fucked if I claimed), so if the only reason I'm suddenly suspect number one is because of Titus' posting, I advise you do some re-reading once we No Lynch so if I'm still around (be a shock if I wasn't, considering at the moment I'm mislynch number 1, 2 and 3 for scum, and that's game over for them) you actually have more to work off than a really shitty VCA that ignores a good 90% of the game.-
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Discuss this more if there is more that can be said about itIn post 1930, PranaDevil wrote:So for today we No Lynch, tomorrow we can lynch Lexa, and I'm more than happy to get Titus lynched too considering the obvious derailing of the Lexa wagon despite somehow thinking Lexa is scum... you don't derail a wagon of someone you believe is scum.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Without wanting to sound dismissive, I shall look properly at it tomorrow, it's literally hit midnight, and I've been gaming since Friday night (lots of Magic, and lots of Ankh Morpork take it out of you, and I have a game of the Doom boardgame to DM tomorrow night too), so as said before, I've not been giving this the attention it really needs, so rather than do a piss poor job of this tonight, I'd rather do so properly in the morning. A shit job doesn't help us after all.In post 1932, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Discuss this more if there is more that can be said about itIn post 1930, PranaDevil wrote:So for today we No Lynch, tomorrow we can lynch Lexa, and I'm more than happy to get Titus lynched too considering the obvious derailing of the Lexa wagon despite somehow thinking Lexa is scum... you don't derail a wagon of someone you believe is scum.
Though I have noticed that almost everyone bar myself seems to be in America (or that timezone at least), so while at times it may seem like I'm not posting, that's because I'm sleeping, then when I wake up and post, no bugger is around, and by the time things go crazy with posting again, I'm asleep. In the past I would stay up stupid hours playing games online, these days... bollocks to it, I refuse to be tied to a computer constantly, and so I'll always favour real life stuff over gaming, so while I may not post much, I aim to make it decent where I can. So sorry when I post longish posts, but don't do two tons of back and forth, but considering I had a huge breakdown a few years back, and found that my mental health got a lot better when my life wasn't revolving around the computer, I think it better to not let myself get into that position again. Not aiming for AtE, but explaining why I won't be around every hour of the day.
I have no clue what to make of the claim, what I "do" know is that the derailing of the Lexa wagon seemed to come out of left field. We pretty much had the game sewn up, we were easily going to win it seemed, with the only "uncertainty" being the Pep slot, then it gets filled and suddenly Lexa is ignored outright, only for late on her to be a sudden top suspect again, but "below" the previous obv. town player (your words here, not mine). It just seems like the only change has been Titus.In post 1933, ThinkBig wrote:@Devil - Why don't you believe Titus' claim? Also, what do you make of AA's fruit vendor role?
Fruit Vendor role... not sure, I'll agree it does work for a Watcher/Tracker, but only if someone really knows how to use it (I remember being around when it first was cropping up in PYP games... bloody great fun incidentally), otherwise it's a cracking role to just say to someone "hi, I'm town". Because no scum is getting Fruit Vendor in a normal. Thus it doesn't actively need another role to work with. Plus a one shot Fruit Vendor, on the off chance of being watched/tracked by another one shot ability... seems a bit far fetched. Not saying it's impossible, but that's late game "here, let me prove it for you" stuff, and if we're to assume Titus is town, then had Pep not been MIA all game, those shots would have been used and the late game means nothing.
No CC.In post 1934, ThinkBig wrote:Also if there is a CC, it should be done now.
Also, for clarities sake, I claim if there's a legitimate reason to do so, this was not a legitimate reason to do so. What's more, Titus' reason does nothing for it. If Titus is scum, she could wait until I claim to decide what to claim, makes no odds there. Scum need to know what our roles are to know who to hit, as it stands the only person I can say is town, 100%, is myself. Much as I view TB and Gin and confirmed town, I'll happily state that's a 99% feeling there, nobody is every confirmed town unless, in said game, I have a role that confirms them as town (say I was cop and got an innocent result), otherwise I can use theory and probability to decide in my head who is town and who is scum, but the long and short of it is, I can be wrong (see: Alisae), and so can anyone else (see: LQ).
Therefore I'll always have a lean that means I don't reveal things that help the scum without an honest to god solid reason to do so. Titus making demands, when I not only have no actual knowledge of the slot, nor feel she's on town's side with the way she's doing it, lead me to being more adamant about not doing it.
Then, much as I believe (or believed... I've no fucking clue at the moment, and should give things a solid re-read) shannon was talking out of her ass in regards to Gin being scum, can I say for sure she wasn't on to something? Of course not. Even my posting was stating I was using probability, and the fact Gin would be unlikely to do that as scum as he could get caught out, but I could be wrong as well... so again, with that tiny thing nibbling at my mind, the "we win regardless" made me even more wary of it... Why do we win regardless? What IF shannon is onto something? Not necessarily a TB/Gin scum team, but even just Gin (thinking as I type here, so bear with me), he would know TB is town anyway, catches a buddy, and suddenly he uses his other stuff (in theory, just because he says he has X powers, doesn't mean he has, could be scum sided stuff but he gives town leaning roles in their place, who knows?) to give legitimate answer. So now, if that is correct, me claiming aids scum and leads us down the wrong way.
Ergo, a mass claim was a bloody terrible idea, and I refused to do it, and I stand by the fact I refused to do it, and will do the same in future games unless there is a good, solid, reason for doing so. There were no solid reasons here, just people blurting out their roles needlessly.
I still feel TB/Gin is likely town, because based on probability they shouldn't be scum.
By the same token, based on probability myself/Lexa should be one scum, and shannon/Garmr should have been the other (meaning shannon is the scum there), but now I'm questioning that thanks to the very fact Titus got us away from Lexa.
And christ TB, let people actually type their sodding posts.-
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If Titus' theory is correct about Karnos being hard bussed, the only two people left that could be the bussers are Devil and shannon.In post 813, mastina wrote:karnos- 7 (Garmr, XnadrojX, BlueBloodedToffee, PranaDevil,All Alone, shannon,ThinkBig)I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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I'm so sigging this after the game. The second part too if you're scum.In post 1930, PranaDevil wrote:are we playing mafia, or is this some bullshit algebra type problem? Either way Titus has led you barking up the wrong tree).ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Prana, if you had to rate the two suspects and suppose I'm town, how would you rate them? I cannot believe the wall of non-commital of crap I got today. Basically, you have to lynch Lexa or shannon, who do you pick and why?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Me read, puhleeze.In post 1939, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Titus, have you read the thread yet?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 233, mastina wrote:<<< nydushermain requested replacement. And conveniently enough, we've got a replacement! TheRealGin-N-Tonic replaces nydushermain effective upon their posting. >>>
In post 277, mastina wrote:Hey, know how I said that I am v/LA over weekends? Yeah, well doubly so now. Lost internet and am phoneposting. Be back soonish. I hope.
VOTE: Lexa
I think this is our best play today. I'd rather lynch scum than let scum live for another day.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Good oIn post 1916, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'll be waiting on input from Lexa, Prana, and Shannon before carrying on.
I don't trust Titus' results. Here is what I've seen so far, and stop me if I'm wrong.In post 1918, ThinkBig wrote:1. shannon
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I'm 80% sure Shannon is town. He claim checks out and makes sense from a town perspective. However, my paranoia comes from her throwing shades at Gin. My other paranoia is that throughout the game, I've had a fairly strong town read on Devil. What to do about that?
In this position, is it best for us to lynch or no lynch for Titus to get some results?
Titus subs in to the game. Everyone is like OMG Titus, you'll save us through VCA! Which is great if Titus is town (even though I've seen her VCA be wrong as town) but terrible if she's scum. She starts out on her VCA exercise, and everyone follows along. If she makes a misstep, never mind, she hasn't read the thread, it's OK someone will tell her and she'll adjust.
Around the time where that all started, I'd claimed a JOAT role and Lexa had revised her claim. People are thinking hang on, no way are there three JOATs in play, surely Shannon is faking it. Surely Lexa is faking her claim, why not claim properly right at the start? Then Titus claims JOAT, and suddenly ... that's plausible? It's not rendering town completely OP to have her as JOAT #3, but it is to have me? And there's totally no way there could be four of us, so I must be lying? (Look back at when I claimed my role - why would I even fake claim there, as town or scum? Why not simply say nothing and continue to play? Now ask yourself the same question about Titus).
In this light, I can see why Prana didn't want to claim. I think he's wrong in his analysis of me/Garmr vs Prana/Lexa, not least because Garmr has flipped town and I'm town too. All-town wagons do happen. They happen often enough that even newbie me has seen a few.
I accept that my stuff about Gin came out of left field. I hope we can at least see, on principle, that it's possible for scum with enough info to fake claim a plausible town role. I trusted Gin's claim until people started going after me for fake claiming, it raised my heckles and I thought hang on, someone is playing me here. And that's what I think titus has done, with greater success. She's used her information and her reputation as a VCA-solver to take a position of authority that she doesn't deserve. It's very easy for her to claim three unused JOAT shots when her predecessor lurked out all game.
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No. We have one confirmed town.In post 1947, ThinkBig wrote:If we are confident that someone is scum, we should lynch them today and not allow them to live until tomorrow's LyLo. We have two confirmed town right now which will almost certainly be reduced to one tomorrow.
Stop voting.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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