In post 349, Jingle wrote:The case started as a meta observation, but your reaction was decidedly not town. It's noted that you're about to try to convince me you're not scum.
No, I'm trying to tell you your read on me is shit, and because it's shit I think you're scum.
In post 339, goodmorning wrote:See, the problem I have with that is that your points boil down to:
1. effort
2. effort
3. untrue assertion.
Effort isn't really indicative of alignment, and he obviously has tried to read people or what the fuck was p13?
I know that part of me is only resisting the lynch because I feel forced into it but more of it is because I genuinely don't think Xay is Scum.
1. Effort is sometimes indicative of alignment. Some players put more work in as certain alignments. Live with it.
2. No. No it isn't. The backbone of the case is that he isn't reading the thread. Xay is more careful than that as town. He reads critically and he doesn't miss things that have had multiple posts dedicated to them in an 8 page game. That's just not town him behavior.
3. P13 was Xayscum looking at me, who caught him, and going "Oh shit, I better shut him up. I better make sure no one listens to that." What better way to do so than to call me scum? Given that every mention of another player on that page by him was somehow tied to me, it reads a lot like survivalistic scum trying to minimize my reads whenever possible.
1. Maybe so, but I'm not convinced that Xay is one of them.
2. If this is about the deadline thing, that's a really dumb argument. I once read a setup, replaced into the (Open) game, and immediately said someone was a Serial Killer when there wasn't one in the game. People forget things like that, things that aren't relevant to their player-based trains of thought, all the time.
3. Or maybe, it's giving-up Town who wants to clarify his top scumread for the dithering IC.
OH LOOK
Conveniently, now you don't like his reactions. THIS IS NEW.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 339, goodmorning wrote:See, the problem I have with that is that your points boil down to:
1. effort
2. effort
3. untrue assertion.
Effort isn't really indicative of alignment, and he obviously has tried to read people or what the fuck was p13?
I know that part of me is only resisting the lynch because I feel forced into it but more of it is because I genuinely don't think Xay is Scum.
1. Effort is sometimes indicative of alignment. Some players put more work in as certain alignments. Live with it.
2. No. No it isn't. The backbone of the case is that he isn't reading the thread. Xay is more careful than that as town. He reads critically and he doesn't miss things that have had multiple posts dedicated to them in an 8 page game. That's just not town him behavior.
3. P13 was Xayscum looking at me, who caught him, and going "Oh shit, I better shut him up. I better make sure no one listens to that." What better way to do so than to call me scum? Given that every mention of another player on that page by him was somehow tied to me, it reads a lot like survivalistic scum trying to minimize my reads whenever possible.
1. Maybe so, but I'm not convinced that Xay is one of them.
2. If this is about the deadline thing, that's a really dumb argument. I once read a setup, replaced into the (Open) game, and immediately said someone was a Serial Killer when there wasn't one in the game. People forget things like that, things that aren't relevant to their player-based trains of thought, all the time.
3. Or maybe, it's giving-up Town who wants to clarify his top scumread for the dithering IC.
OH LOOK
Conveniently, now you don't like his reactions. THIS IS NEW.
In post 304, Jingle wrote:Right, and your OMGUS is totally convincing. Have you considered logical arguments describing behavior? No? Maybe because you can't. Somebody hammer him, he's caught scum, and he's not even putting in effort at this point.
In post 309, Jingle wrote:I'm calling you scum because as a logical, careful person, I don't see how it's possible that you missed a core mechanic of the game, and I see why youscum was doing it. But sure, argue how I'm scum. It'll only make me look better when we see your flip.
Do I actually need to restate my reasoning? It's fucking obvious. Town Xay pays more attention to the thread than that. He doesn't give a shit about the game and he's making no attempt to read anyone. He's goddamn scum. Now help me lynch him.
Meta is weak, effort is even weaker as an argument. Well done though, your posts continuously increase my confidence in Xay being TOWN.
In post 343, pisskop wrote:I read and I want to lynch Pine. Xay would be for information or progress, but he's not screaming town either.
The Dry-fit tradition of not explaining anything is continued by the replacement.
++--, why are you not voting? don't you have scumreads?
In post 356, ++-- wrote:The Dry-fit tradition of not explaining anything is continued by the replacement.
Pine is lurky, uninteresting, and likely a buddy of any actually active scum. Xay has weak play thus far; I'd imagine even for a micro (which this is my first, but I assume it goes faster). But Xay is still here and Pine is not.
When he is here, this awkward and agonistic posting is all we get?
In post 7, Pine wrote:2-shot daycop. Reck and TTH are totes scum
In post 322, Pine wrote:I'm here, I've been really busy. I'll catch up this evening
In post 354, Pine wrote:Prodded again. Street Racers is over, so I'm paying attention now
More once I've finished reading up. An hour? Two?
If I was playing a blitz game, this is the first thing I would lynch. The content is lackluster, the reads are forced, and the commitment is nonexistent.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
Because, afaic his 'scumreads' were pulled from one post and were weak enough that I had to use my imagination to see them.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 16, Dry-fit wrote:I'm going to be following the wishes of the innocent children this game, and everyone else should do the same.
Pine probably is scum but I'm not going to vote him right now.
Yeah no
This is the scum, here. Disavowing responsibility and hedging his bets
We've all had a fun RVS, but it's time to play for reals now
This an all subsequent posts about his DF read are
him
playing obtuse about his 'read'. He saw what he wanted early and entered DeathTunnel mode.
His case on ++-- is nonexistent, and I'm townreading Huntress.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
304 - Because I have never OMGUS'd as town? Pretty damn sure that was how I used to catch scum about a year+ ago
309 - Where exactly did I give you the impression I was careful as town, and careless as scum? Anyway I thought that scum would choose a NK target during the day, and kill inbetween the dayphases, but I was mistaken, so that was why I wanted to lynch before the night.
I can see where TTH is coming from there, but it's the wrong conclusion. Pine and ++-- being scum doesn't depend on Xay's status. Or if it does then Xay must be scum.
It's the third one I'm not sure about though. Dry-fit's voting pattern seems to show that he only voted Pine when it was safe to do so then switched to Xay to get a lynch. Pk did the same. I'm leaning in that direction but if Xay is town then why didn't one of Pine and ++-- vote him when he was at L-1?
@ Xayzeck:
Jingle's not going to be lynched toDay. Can you switch to Pine please? Or ++-- is good too.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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