Mini 1725 - Game Over

[supercool898]

I'm here, just haven't really been clicking on the thread since I see other people aren't talking

[Maxous]

Where is everyone?

Bah, seriously I'm really sorry for my apathy.
Maybe it'll help if I i just talk to people.

What is your readlist right now firesong?

Which of nos or Mario is scumvoting you?

How long do we have left anyway.

[Maxous]

As for being passive, I have only been passive today. I attribute this to no longer scumreading firesong. I am still trying to figure out who is scum.

Gun to head, you have to pick, who are the scum?
If firesong is scum then one of nos or Mario is definitely scum

[supercool898]

Gun to head, you have to pick, who are the scum?
If firesong is scum then one of nos or Mario is definitely scum

Although I don't suspect firesong right now, I am putting my money on nos being scum.

[MarioManiac4]

ZzZzZzZzZzZz
Can we all just, you know, do a thing.
And read Firesong's ISO.
Because her D4 play was not town.
And nothing.
Nothing.
Could ever change that.

[Nosferatu]

Gun to head, you have to pick, who are the scum?
If firesong is scum then one of nos or Mario is definitely scum

Although I don't suspect firesong right now, I am putting my money on nos being scum.

If I were scum why would I kill RC N1 when he was one of the few players who didn't want me lynched D1?

[Soapbar]

I think Mario may be scum with Firesong, mostly because nobody else really pings my radar

[supercool898]

If I were scum why would I kill RC N1 when he was one of the few players who didn't want me lynched D1?

If you are scum, then you are part of a 3 scum team. At the beginning of N1, Aristo replaced into the game. Aristo has had past experience with RC and I think he must have saw RC as a threat and killed him because of that.

[Firesong]

Where is everyone?

Bah, seriously I'm really sorry for my apathy.
Maybe it'll help if I i just talk to people.

What is your readlist right now firesong?

Which of nos or Mario is scumvoting you?

How long do we have left anyway.

6 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes as of this post.

I can't tell scum from town at this moment. I'll have a reads list in a bit, though.

Something stands out to me from yesterday.

The voting was definitely between Aristophanes and Hinduragi yesterday, through 4 votecounts. Then Nosferatu puts a vote on me. Why? Why vote for anyone other than Aristophanes or Hinduragi? Where I come from that's always a scum move.

[Firesong]

From MarioManiac4, yesterday:

I've also had a townread on supercool all game and it's impossible for me, him and you [Hinduragi] to all be town.

My thoughts outside you/Ari? I don't really know until one of you flips, which is alright anyway.
If you are mafia, the other two are probably Soapbar and Maxous.
If it's Aristophanes, the other two are probably in supercool, Nosferatu and Firesong. I think scum would have had enough time to quickhammer if super, me and you[Hinduragi] are all town, so it would be within Nos/Fire.

There's this, dragged up from Day 1:

Also

VOTE: Firesong

Is there any real reason for this vote, or did we just go back into RVS?

And then I find this post

What about it stands out to you

Nosferatu appears really defensive about this Firesong vote.

Why didn't you say anything about it on Day1?

Soapbar put a naked vote on me after RVS ended. I had done nothing to warrant the vote, it literally came from nowhere.

There was speculation that Soap was trying to restart RVS.

He never did give a good reason for the vote, hence my keeping an eye on him. I'm still suspicious.

I'm just speculating here, but the vote might have seemed out of place to Nosferatu as well.

And you two are just now noticing all that?

Not a good look.

So you are accusing me of not noticing something earlier? And I'm scummy?
You know what, I'm fed up with you. You are, indeed, using moonlogic to justify logical reaches and it's not my fault if you end up flipping town. I plan to vote you on Day Five.
VOTE: Aristophanes

Do you think Scum would have had adequate time to hammer makara if me, super and Hind are all town?

I'm actually pretty sure Firesong doesn't buy her own moonlogic and is spreading WiFoM.
The third is probably Nosferatu or perhaps Supercool.

intent to vote firesong

Why announce intent to vote for someone? It wasn't anywhere near a hammer vote.

[Firesong]

Soapbar voteparks on Ari early on, with a valid argument.

In post 945 he asks Mario:
"Why do you feel the need to reiterate over and over again that your town? You've been doing it since the start of the game."

[Firesong]

knew a tracker claim wouldn't go well. Should've no lynched with no one claiming.

^ This sounds odd, like he's thinking out loud.

I think both makara and aristo are both town.

uhh, maybe scum no killed because of a fucking tracker claim

after thinking over it, if aristo was scum trying to deceive town, he'd probably claim cop over tracker, so I'll believe his claim over makara's.

After seeing that thing about the variants, I can believe that Aristo faked his claim. Doesn't make sense that two variants of basically the same role would exist simultaneously in the same game.

after quick meta, aristo doesn't give up as caught scum.

Here's where he places his vote on me, even though the lynch is between Ari and Hindu:

can we just lynch firesong and be done with it?

I don't think Aristo is scum. His play right now isn't how he acts as caught scum; he doesn't give up. But here, he's clearly abandoned the game. It's not something he does.

Pretty much everyone thinks fire is scum and some people still doubt Hindu. I'd rather decide between Hindu and Aristo when it isn't MyLo. Fire today, then decide between Hindu and Aristo, when there's a larger margin for error.

After thinking about it, my assertion of this not being how aristo plays as scum is flawed. In the games I read where aristo didn't give up, he was the last of the scum team. I'll look through his games to see if he was caught scum in a game where his partners where still alive.

^ This looks like someone busing

well found a game where he replaced in, was and was later lynched; first in his scum team, and he slowly tapered off in activity as his lynch became imminent. Seem familiar?

SO, I'm rather sure Aristo is scum. I'll PoE last scum from NKs tonight.

if the fire wagon won't happen, I'll jump back on to the aristo wagon.

^ This looks like someone busing

[Firesong]

My reads list:

Soapbar - Town
Supercool Probably Town
Maxous - Null, I can't read him one way or another
Nosferatu - Probable Scum
MarioManiac - Scum

[ChaosOmega]

Votecount 5.02

Firesong (2) - Nosferatu, MarioManiac4
supercool898 (1) - Maxous

Not Voting (3) - supercool898, Firesong, Soapbar

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-11-29 18:19:25)

[Maxous]

I think Mario may be scum with Firesong, mostly because nobody else really pings my radar

meh and do you think they are specifically running a hard double-bus on each-other?

[Maxous]

Gun to head, you have to pick, who are the scum?
If firesong is scum then one of nos or Mario is definitely scum

Although I don't suspect firesong right now, I am putting my money on nos being scum.

any reason you're not voting him?

[Maxous]

i'm still not comfortable throwing a vote on Firesong.
Certainly at this stage anyway

[supercool898]

any reason you're not voting him?

bruh, my read was a gut read. I don't feel comfortable enough voting him just yet.

[Soapbar]

I think Mario may be scum with Firesong, mostly because nobody else really pings my radar

meh and do you think they are specifically running a hard double-bus on each-other?

I could believe it, Firesong's play in general has been a whole bunch of "What the fuck are you going on about" and Firesong may be trying to preserve herself.

I'd also like to say that Nosferatu may be a scum candidate for D1 play alone.

[Nosferatu]

knew a tracker claim wouldn't go well. Should've no lynched with no one claiming.

^ This sounds odd, like he's thinking out loud.

I think both makara and aristo are both town.

uhh, maybe scum no killed because of a fucking tracker claim

after thinking over it, if aristo was scum trying to deceive town, he'd probably claim cop over tracker, so I'll believe his claim over makara's.

After seeing that thing about the variants, I can believe that Aristo faked his claim. Doesn't make sense that two variants of basically the same role would exist simultaneously in the same game.

after quick meta, aristo doesn't give up as caught scum.

Here's where he places his vote on me, even though the lynch is between Ari and Hindu:

can we just lynch firesong and be done with it?

I don't think Aristo is scum. His play right now isn't how he acts as caught scum; he doesn't give up. But here, he's clearly abandoned the game. It's not something he does.

Pretty much everyone thinks fire is scum and some people still doubt Hindu. I'd rather decide between Hindu and Aristo when it isn't MyLo. Fire today, then decide between Hindu and Aristo, when there's a larger margin for error.

After thinking about it, my assertion of this not being how aristo plays as scum is flawed. In the games I read where aristo didn't give up, he was the last of the scum team. I'll look through his games to see if he was caught scum in a game where his partners where still alive.

^ This looks like someone busing

well found a game where he replaced in, was and was later lynched; first in his scum team, and he slowly tapered off in activity as his lynch became imminent. Seem familiar?

SO, I'm rather sure Aristo is scum. I'll PoE last scum from NKs tonight.

if the fire wagon won't happen, I'll jump back on to the aristo wagon.

^ This looks like someone busing

I'm sure in the two whole games you've finished, that you are in expert in identifying bussing scum. I also don't bus as scum.

You also quoted a bunch of stuff that you didn't comment on. Why include it at all?

[Nosferatu]

knew a tracker claim wouldn't go well. Should've no lynched with no one claiming.

^ This sounds odd, like he's thinking out loud.

I think both makara and aristo are both town.

uhh, maybe scum no killed because of a fucking tracker claim

after thinking over it, if aristo was scum trying to deceive town, he'd probably claim cop over tracker, so I'll believe his claim over makara's.

After seeing that thing about the variants, I can believe that Aristo faked his claim. Doesn't make sense that two variants of basically the same role would exist simultaneously in the same game.

after quick meta, aristo doesn't give up as caught scum.

Here's where he places his vote on me, even though the lynch is between Ari and Hindu:

can we just lynch firesong and be done with it?

I don't think Aristo is scum. His play right now isn't how he acts as caught scum; he doesn't give up. But here, he's clearly abandoned the game. It's not something he does.

Pretty much everyone thinks fire is scum and some people still doubt Hindu. I'd rather decide between Hindu and Aristo when it isn't MyLo. Fire today, then decide between Hindu and Aristo, when there's a larger margin for error.

After thinking about it, my assertion of this not being how aristo plays as scum is flawed. In the games I read where aristo didn't give up, he was the last of the scum team. I'll look through his games to see if he was caught scum in a game where his partners where still alive.

^ This looks like someone busing

well found a game where he replaced in, was and was later lynched; first in his scum team, and he slowly tapered off in activity as his lynch became imminent. Seem familiar?

SO, I'm rather sure Aristo is scum. I'll PoE last scum from NKs tonight.

if the fire wagon won't happen, I'll jump back on to the aristo wagon.

^ This looks like someone busing

I'm sure in the

one

whole game you've finished, that you are

an

expert in identifying bussing scum. I also don't bus as scum.

You also quoted a bunch of stuff that you didn't comment on. Why include it at all?

fixed for accuracy.

[Firesong]

I'm sure in the two whole games you've finished, that you are in expert in identifying bussing scum. I also don't bus as scum.

You also quoted a bunch of stuff that you didn't comment on. Why include it at all?

I was showing what you posted during the Aristo/Hundu voting. It looked a lot like not busing/kinda busing/not busing/giving up and busing to me.

In the sig of a wise man: "Everybody lies." You might or might not bus as scum. I don't know that. (I know Aristo will if he has to.)

This isn't my first - or second - time at the rodeo. I've finished more than 2 whole games.

[Firesong]

VOTE: MarioManiac4

[Nosferatu]

I'm sure in the two whole games you've finished, that you are in expert in identifying bussing scum. I also don't bus as scum.

You also quoted a bunch of stuff that you didn't comment on. Why include it at all?

In the sig of a wise man: "Everybody lies." You might or might not bus as scum. I don't know that. (I know Aristo will if he has to.)

Uhh, simple, look at any game I've ever played and you will see I don't bus as scum.

[supercool898]

I'm sure in the two whole games you've finished, that you are in expert in identifying bussing scum. I also don't bus as scum.

You also quoted a bunch of stuff that you didn't comment on. Why include it at all?

In the sig of a wise man: "Everybody lies." You might or might not bus as scum. I don't know that. (I know Aristo will if he has to.)

Uhh, simple, look at any game I've ever played and you will see I don't bus as scum.

Is your only defense meta? Meta can't be solely relied on, but is more like supporting evidence.