Mini 1815: Game of Thrones S1E1 GAME OVER

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Gorkington
Alts are scummy :^)

[SirCakez]

I might be slightly more troll-ish than usual, but never apathetic. ^_^

for real though. every game ive been in with an early-revealed ic, the ic does nothing because theres no more pressure on them. dont be useless please.

Cakez has pulled it off before.

That game was so fun for the like two days I was alive

VOTE: Gorkington
Alts are scummy :^)

you're scummy

Good

vote: cakez

lets dance funny guy.

Ready for the 1v1?

[SirCakez]

Ya that would be bad I don't want to lynch you....yet

[SirCakez]

Oh hey cakez is here. I have a bone to pick with you after you tricked me as scum in DC mafia

Heheheheheh

Ya that would be bad I don't want to lynch you....yet

bummer that you might actually be scum this game

Don't worry, I'm not

[SirCakez]

Tonal reads are disgusting

[SirCakez]

VOTE: frozen angel
Serious vote

[SirCakez]

You're flipping your shit over a RVS wagon three pages into the game.

[SirCakez]

Tonal reads are disgusting

ur face is disgusting

RVS wagon with 4 votes

and its the best place to start huantting scum

whats your problem with that?

You can hunt scum with votes on you. The way you're trying to get votes off of you is scummy af.

[SirCakez]

I always try to get the votes of me regardless of my alignment cuase thats according to my wincon

like I can't see your point.

I'm town and this wagon is misleaded. are you saying should I let it happen ?

I'm not telling you how to play
If you were town I doubt you would have made such a fuss over the votes essentially

[SirCakez]

Don't cannibalize me Glork, your tonal read is bad and you should feel bad
BBT's random vote is weaksauce

[SirCakez]

OK
Wat do you think of FA's "tone" then?

[SirCakez]

I meant your vote on Random BBT

[SirCakez]

i dont want to think about it right now and i dont find the pressure on her useful right now.

y not?
P-edit: oh

that

ok

[SirCakez]

LOL

[SirCakez]

I meant your vote on Random BBT

I know

I didn't like Random's Gork vote.

Why?

[SirCakez]

Square World prob FA's buddy

[SirCakez]

I'm not tunneled on you, BBT is also a suspect for me ATM

[SirCakez]

That's okay, I'm not concerned about being scumread by scum

[SirCakez]

I'm a new man

[SirCakez]

Square World prob FA's buddy

so you have three person scumteam figured out?

Two, not three
Third slot is still wide open

[SirCakez]

yes, he's independent of my FA/square world reads

[SirCakez]

Don't cannibalize me Glork, your tonal read is bad and you should feel bad
BBT's random vote is weaksauce

I meant your vote on Random BBT

I meant your vote on Random BBT

I know

I didn't like Random's Gork vote.

Why?

[SirCakez]

You should explain that read SC.

I already did

my gut says this is scum!Cakez game

scummmmmmmmmmm

What about his random vote was scummy?

It was a terrible vote that wasn't going to go anywhere useful

[SirCakez]

Gorky do you scumread me for anything besides "tone"?

[SirCakez]

hi wat do you wish to discuss?
fa and square world lookin like super scum buddies right now
gorky and random are prob just misguided townies

what's your opinion?

[SirCakez]

Gorky do you scumread me for anything besides "tone"?

yup!

[SirCakez]

im so coy ohohoho. isnt it frustrating.

also to add on to my comments above
kuroi is looking lynchbaity like usual and I would not lynch there today
no read on wisdom or dwlee yet

everyone else hasn't done anything notable enough for me to remember

[SirCakez]

I am trying to keep other options in case some of my reads are wrong lol
P-edit: the fact that he gets mislynched constantly and that nothing here looks like stuff that Kuroi wouldn't usually post

[SirCakez]

I have the extra game information of having played in multiple games where Kuroi was mislynched, yes

[SirCakez]

Oh I know who Square World is now

[SirCakez]

I am trying to keep other options in case some of my reads are wrong lol
P-edit: the fact that he gets mislynched constantly and that nothing here looks like stuff that Kuroi wouldn't usually post

haha

no I'm not falling for that for even one second

what about him

in this game

looked lynchbaity ?

the fact he started getting voted immediately like 3 pages into the game

can you tell me too. alts are stupid.

if you tell me why you're scumreading me besides tone so I can help you see the light :^)

[SirCakez]

the fact he started getting voted immediately like 3 pages into the game

you believe the whole scumteam went after him?

no but I don't think he deserved the votes he got
this is a loaded question anyway

the fact he started getting voted immediately like 3 pages into the game

tth got voted immediately for a post she made

is she lynchbait?

nope, she doesn't get mislynched constantly

[SirCakez]

[the reason the question is nonsensical is that lynchbait doesn't correlate w/ alignment]

This is true

- scum reading 2/3 wagoners on his wagon
- trying to buddy with gork
- call kuroi lynchbait for being voted three times

i don't think town!cakez acts like that

-this isn't AI
-I'm not buddying Gork lol, I'm trying to figure out why he's scumreading me
-this isn't AI

gtfo

[SirCakez]

-this isn't AI
-I'm not buddying Gork lol, I'm trying to figure out why he's scumreading me
-this isn't AI

hey scum ; your not going to choose whats AI and whats not

your reads are fake.
and yes I can sense your try for buddying him , its sparking in the thread atm

<3

I'm not choosing what's AI
Scumreading people on your wagon and calling someone lynchbait aren't AI, it's not rocket science

[SirCakez]

Scumreading people on your wagon and calling someone lynchbait aren't AI, it's not rocket science

so why you LOL'ed at me when I started scumreading you and you got more sure about your scumread on me?

oh w8 your not scumreading me. its just absolute shitshow <3

@Kuroi I always tell people I'm town. whats your point?

I LOLed because it was blatantly an attempt at discrediting
I'm not sure why I'm arguing with scum

[SirCakez]

sircakez is true, she studied years how to become an absolute scum hunting god and know exactly what are all divine scum tells

lol

FA. i will unvote cakez if you make another post posturing about how hes confirmed scum.

you should also move your vote to fa while you're at it

[SirCakez]

I've seen her towngame b4 in a lot of games (bloodborne, song of ice and fire upick, sage frontier, etc)

[SirCakez]

I've seen her towngame b4 in a lot of games (bloodborne, song of ice and fire upick, sage frontier, etc)

How is this different from those games. I've seen FA freak over RVS wagons before

I haven't
Normal wagons ya but not in rvs

I've seen her towngame b4 in a lot of games (bloodborne,

song of ice and fire upick

, sage frontier, etc)

if this is elyse's game youre referencing then youre out to lunch.

It is
The RVS wagon that caused chaos in that game was on Silverwolf iirc, not FA

VOTE: shaddowez

let's see if this wagon will get the same resistance as cakez's.

there was no resistance to my wagon

I'm not sure why I'm arguing with scum

FA isnt scum. Dont make me change my mind on you

:/

[SirCakez]

fine
VOTE: Square World

[SirCakez]

The RVS wagon that caused chaos in that game was on Silverwolf iirc, not FA

recalled incorrectly.
FA was absurdly prickly in response to pressure in ASOIAF.
read again the RVS again.
push as reasoning for FAscum at your peril.

ok I went and reread yea she got pissed off but it wasn't from RVS, it was from a push from Wisdom

[SirCakez]

Most of the people in this game including Wisdom have played multiple games with me FA, not sure what your point is there.

is cake the spiffeh of this game Wis?

what reference is this?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: bbt
I want this
read their iso, it is bad
They're scum

just seriously, lynch bbt please.

So I'm not the only one seeing this

In other news Shadow's posts on page 11 were awful and I'd also vote there now

[SirCakez]

In other news Shadow's posts on page 11 were awful and I'd also vote there now

do

VOTE: shadow
Square needs rope too though

ScumCakez, why you aren't voting your scumread?

Because I have more then one ding dong

[SirCakez]

Yes he does, his posts are garbage
I'm 99% sure who's behind the alt and they would never post like this as town

[SirCakez]

that's the point of the alt

It doesn't just give them a clear to scum post because they're on an alt

Yes he does, his posts are garbage
I'm 99% sure who's behind the alt and they would never post like this as town

This is sad because I was initially town-reading Cakez, but this post seems like someone trying to argue himself out of being lynched, as opposed to finding scum.

Wtf? That post has no relation to me being lynched.

[SirCakez]

Can I make my guess then Square?

[SirCakez]

go ahead miss scumslip

K I think you're Creature because I've never seen anyone else on the site besides him make posts like 167 with the bolded header then making a note underneath

It doesn't just give them a clear to scum post because they're on an alt

Except he's not scumposting. Especially when you think it's scumposting because of meta.

Depends if my meta guess is correct or not

I was speaking more about the first sentence than the second.
Have you seen the vote count?

The first sentence had no relation either
Yes, what about it?

P-edit: dammit wisdom

[SirCakez]

There's a fake bravado that comes across in some of his posts that don't feel like they're coming from an uniformed mindset. (50,52,55 for example).
He's latching onto singular points as reasons for scum reading people (examples: your reaction to the wagon, BBT's vote on Random)
A lot of busy posts/posts about meta with not much game content. (218,237,341 as examples).
There's not any one particular thing that's sticking out to me like "HEY, HE'S SCUM!!", which is why I'm not voting him just yet. His posts in general, however, seem antitown, which is why he's a scum read.

ew
The second line in particular is completely false

[SirCakez]

so was my guess correct?

[SirCakez]

nope
I take that as a yes

[SirCakez]

If Third Wheels doesn't do anything by the end of the day then prob scum

[SirCakez]

nvm third wheels is scum regardless

[SirCakez]

nvm third wheels is scum regardless

OMGUS

LOL

Scumteam = Gorky/Cakez/ rando

no town could have this view of the gamestate right now

calling the shadow wagon meh is even worse

[SirCakez]

hey cakez articulate why I'm scum plz and thx u look real good today ow so foxy

you're throwing out shitty scumreads and scumteam ideas that obviously aren't legit
for example your gorkington + me + random scumteam theory

[SirCakez]

i was wrong about square world I think

[SirCakez]

shadow scumflip = murder mhsmith next
Square World is Creature BBT

[SirCakez]

third wheels should be vigged if we have one

[SirCakez]

Why are you being wagoned SC?

because FA threw a temper tantrum at me scumreading her, Random is misguided and third wheels is scum

[SirCakez]

lie sc is scum for the way he applied the pressure on me and the way he progressed his reads , the way he acted like he is tunneled and backed of as soon as he got called for it.

there's no lying there, you wouldn't have scumread me if I didn't push you lol
P-edit: yes you are, look at your iso

[SirCakez]

@wisdom I gave our my other reads as soon as I got them

if you can't read them in my posts your not paying attention

@cake I said why I'm scumreading you and I'm pushing you for it. if your town prove it and make a better case for me. till then I will assume I'm on the right track - I am usually.

There has plenty of good reasoning put out on shadow. What do you think of him?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: KuroiXHF

This is what the dog and I agree on right now so that's where the vote goes.

Come on you two can come up with something better then this :/

[SirCakez]

People should probably start voting Dwlee.

why?

like seriously. this playerlist is becoming really frustrating. which is fucking super disappointing because it looked good from the outside. if this is going to be the standard of play for the game, then lynch me sooner rather than later please.

I mean I think you're town but you're still scumreading me for "tone"

VOTE: KuroiXHF

This is what the dog and I agree on right now so that's where the vote goes.

Come on you two can come up with something better then this :/

Apologies. Being tethered to the toilet and not being able to keep anything solid down all day didn't really put me in an expository mood.

Getting dismissed before I even have a chance to explain really sucks and I'd rather that not happen pretty please.

*hug*

[SirCakez]

-_-

[SirCakez]

Dwlee's vote on Gork was opportunistic.

????

[SirCakez]

I am always down for shadow/third wheels wagon

[SirCakez]

and dwlee was lynchbait as hell in borderlands mafia lol

[SirCakez]

The second is because they have to push mislynches obviously
Square World is Creature

[SirCakez]

will catch up here manana

[SirCakez]

gladiate MHSMITH

He dies today/ VOTE: smith

dwlee/mhsmith? does that make sense?

investigating

scumscumscum

hey has anyone gotten around to telling me why kuroi's town?

I talked about this a bit ago, you should check it out.

mhsmith0, Third Wheels, shaddowez, Dwlee99, SirCakez, maybe randomidget, the others are town

For Square World, I get that he seems to have adopted a minimalist playstyle of sorts here. But I think he goes after soft targets. This post that I'm quoting feels like "here are the lynches I think I could get away with."

Square World, would you care to give these reads a little meat?
Would anyone care to defend a townread they have on Square World?

Creature always plays like this, the minimalist shit is NAI

i never had a townread on you.

p-edit: you would get lynched over random here. lol.

no he wouldn't

why do i people apparently like playing mafia with me.
i dont get it.

you're fun to play with!

are you pregnant?

what the hell?

So how close are we to lynching hiplop?

good good we are making progress on that front

Where did Cakey go?

plane flight + installing new graphics card in computer

shadow is still scum and I have no clue why that wagon has collapsed
square world is back to being a scumread for his pot stirring but is not a preferred lynch for me over shadow, bbt or third wheels

[SirCakez]

Creature always plays like this, the minimalist shit is NAI

I never said otherwise. I said I think he's pushing mislynches. Do you disagree?

nope, I agree with that

[SirCakez]

pushing scummy people =/= pushing mislynch

when they're town it does!

I also am scum reading Cakez because FA usually doesn't have bad reads.

disgusting!

[SirCakez]

Upon reading posts in context I have a town read on Third Wheel's. Waiting on those magical posts they promised though!

WTF?

[SirCakez]

I am being pretty chill lol

[SirCakez]

prove it

[SirCakez]

Town: Third Wheels, Wisdom, KuroiXHF, beeboy, Heartless
Null: Dwlee99, Square World, Gorkington, BlueBloodedToffee
Scum: SirCakez, Shadow, mhsmith0, randomidget

this readslist is saddening

[SirCakez]

I think Cakez has been defensive this game I don't like his meta based push on my slot that he apparently opted to drop. I also felt as though he has been lurking out of his pressure.

I dropped it because I realized I was wrong about FA, yes
Lurking out the pressure is just complete bs though

[SirCakez]

thanks radja <3
I'm so conflicted on beeboy, I think FA was definitely town at the end but beeboy's posting has just been awful

[SirCakez]

I'm so conflicted on beeboy, I think FA was definitely town at the end but beeboy's posting has just been awful

Take FA's AtE with a grain of salt.

it looks so real though gah

where did this wagon come from

more votes on Square, leave beeboy alone

I would move here but I have the feeling someone would lolhammer

[SirCakez]

no I don't want the day to end yet

[SirCakez]

Anyway FA was telling the truth I can be confirmed later in the game so lynching me now is a horrible idea.

lynching beeboy today is stupid

[SirCakez]

what's the point of making someone with a confirmable role claim?
if he claims later and it's not confirmable we hang his ass

[SirCakez]

Heartless, I already towned it up. HARD.

What more do you want from me?

since when?

[SirCakez]

I'm assuming he means confirmable as town, not just confirmable

[SirCakez]

since when?

Not to you. But to people who have played a few games with me it should be pretty easy to tell I'm town. I'm mainly talking about Heartless, Bee and Wisdom.

@heartless/bee/wis can you confirm?

I'm assuming he means confirmable as town, not just confirmable

He already denied being a friendly neighbor.

I'm pretty sure that's not the only role confirmable as tow
depends what Radja cooked up for this setup

[SirCakez]

wis can you confirm?

I cant tell you're town BBT

rip reading comprehension

@heartless/bee/wis can you confirm?

Nothing made me feel strongly either way but I have been mainly waiting for more people to appear while I am present before I got strong reads.
#worstreplacementever

but you have a strong scumread on me?

so there goes BBT's "obvtown" posting

[SirCakez]

Reading his ISO I don't think BBT is wrong in believing I should be town reading him right now.

what is this supposed to mean?

Happy birthday Cakez!
Reading up atm

thanks!

[SirCakez]

what is this supposed to mean?

It was in response to you saying so much for BBT being obv town or something.

no what does the "I don't think BBT is wrong in believing you should be townreading him" mean?

[SirCakez]

what is this supposed to mean?

It was in response to you saying so much for BBT being obv town or something.

no what does the "I don't think BBT is wrong in believing you should be townreading him" mean?

It means that he is scum hunting and shit. Just nothing screams town to me.

So is pretty much everyone in the game
"scumhunting and shit" =/= should be townreading him imo

vote: cakez

i like this one best.

aw gorky I thought we were past this

also happy birthday cakez.

thanks tho!

[SirCakez]

my posts aren't really doing that much yes
i could alternatively just not post but I would like to play the game!

[SirCakez]

is that aimed at me?

[SirCakez]

So the main beef I (and mostly everyone else) have with Square is his shitty post stirring when FA was having a meltdown earlier with the "pregnant" comment
He's been opportunistic as hell all game and has voted like 8 different slots already today.
It doesn't match his town meta at all either.

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]

because it literally contributes nothing other then causing more FA-drama

[SirCakez]

*fa is having a meltdown and screaming at people for no reason*
*"hey are you pregnant?"
*more screaming ensues*

[SirCakez]

and there's literally no reason for town to make a comment like that

[SirCakez]

okay lets play a game.
its called.
why does that cause more screaming.
unless youre taking that as him asking it in a rhetorical mocking manner.
because i didnt.

I feel like this should be extremely obvious and I'm just struggling to explain it for some reason
Ok when someone is having a meltdown in thread and feels like they're being belittled or whatever, someone asking them if they're pregnant is not how to calm them down, it's just going to stir up more garbage.

hey cakez, you forgot an important detail, how did you get the assumption i wanted to cause drama rather than just being curious?

ba dum tss

VOTE: cakez

because it's the obvious assumption to make from a comment like that

[SirCakez]

how did you get the assumption i wanted to cause drama? were you planning to do that?

because it's the obvious fucking assumption to make from a comment like that
it's not rocket science

so, you think that scum would think thats a viable way to stir the pot?

yes

[SirCakez]

VOTE: cakez

oh piss off you're scumreading him for the same thing

[SirCakez]

why wouldn't it be just curiosity?

Who gets curious in the middle of a screaming fest if someone in it is pregnant?

no I'm not, but it's certainly me you're parroting

I am echoing you
Your point?

[SirCakez]

then you should not ask stupid questions like that and should instead try to focus on lynching scum?

[SirCakez]

Who gets curious in the middle of a screaming fest if someone in it is pregnant?

*post before it*
"i am dealing with pregnancy mood swings"
"are you pregnant?"

i dont think its an unreasonable jump of a question at all if hed missed that context beforehand.
i certainly cant imagine any scum ever thinking thats some kind of viable strategy for derailing the game.

if hes scum, it was an empty comment.
if hes town, it was either a question to gain context or an empty comment.

i seriously dont understand how you can believe your stance right now and you hunkering down behind it so strongly is wonky.

if you don't get it now you're not going to ever probably

I am echoing you
Your point?

You thought it was a good argument to push
It's not

why not?

*fa is having a meltdown and screaming at people for no reason*
*"hey are you pregnant?"
*more screaming ensues*

What's weird is FA explicitly said she was pregnant during the meltdown, and 3 min later creature asks her if she's pregnant. Like, it seems most indicative of a sloppy engagement w the situation, as opposed to some kind of master plan. So, since you say you have meta there, why is this sloppiness AI?

the meta is irrelevant to this.

so i am not allowed to go out of context for a bit?

not when it's a dumb fucking question like the one you made

[SirCakez]

its an indication that ceature didn't read her post

town more likely to skip a post like that @mhsmith

i've heard scum are more likely to skim then town though?

[SirCakez]

if you don't get it now you're not going to ever probably

yeah because just saying i dont get it is going to assuage me here real good.
:/

not like I've just spent the last three or so pages talking about it

its an indication that ceature didn't read her post

town more likely to skip a post like that @mhsmith

It's sloppy either way. Cakez claims creature meta; doubtless he can give an opinion on how or if sloppiness is AI for creature in particular.

THE META IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS
I just said this read the fucking thread

[SirCakez]

like, you cant possibly be so confident in the point when so many people are making it clear that its a bad point.

you say this but then this happened earlier

are you pregnant?

Given that she just said she was, what's the point of re-asking?

He wants the drama to continue because it's good for scum

Wisdom gets a read right!

Then let's roll on this
VOTE: Square World

VOTE: square world

UNVOTE:
VOTE: square world

VOTE: Square World

So I'm really fucking confused

[SirCakez]

Like it's not like I'm the only one who stood behind this, half the game was agreeing with this earlier and now they all decided not to apparently

[SirCakez]

yeah.
its a fine surface level casual wagon point.

but when holes are poked in it, everyone else re-evaluated their confidence in it.
and your confidence only got stronger?
youre not even really engaging me on any level, youre just telling me im wrong and not giving any further detail.
i feel like you have nothing to stand behind on this square world vote [and you really easily could].
i feel like youre defending the POINT more than trying to figure anything out here.

ok even if I drop the POINT
I'd still think he's scum

So the main beef I (and mostly everyone else) have with Square is his shitty post stirring when FA was having a meltdown earlier with the "pregnant" comment
He's been opportunistic as hell all game and has voted like 8 different slots already today.
It doesn't match his town meta at all either.

Talk through creatures normal town meta then. What does it normally look like? Which games has he been much steadier w his vote in as town? Any scum games where's he's been like this?

As town creature is much more analytical and engaged, as scum he is opportunistic and skimmy like he's been here.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=66318 - example of his scum game

[SirCakez]

town game here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=65971

compare that to the scum game I linked above

[SirCakez]

and please give apparent confidence level that hes never skimmy in his towngame.

go read his ISOs in both games and it will be transparently obvious
I'm not going to grab quotes because it will be cherry picking, so it's better to let others see for themselves

[SirCakez]

i never said it solved everything, they asked for meta and they got it

[SirCakez]

it's not a waste of time lol

[SirCakez]

I mean I could grab a LOT of games but I don't see the point when those two games sum up what I'm saying

[SirCakez]

okay so, i agree that square is probably creature for reason you gave.

need more time to parse these two games.
you have to know that if i dont see the apparent scumgame difference in his play and if your play this game looks like any scumgame that i find on metadive, im going to see you dead.
youre okay with this, yes?

p-edit: right.

sure

[SirCakez]

you two are the snarkiest people I've ever played mafia with

[SirCakez]

Sooo Gorky hows your meta dive going?

[SirCakez]

Ya there was some drama kind of

[SirCakez]

its not happening tonight.
i only have so much attention span.

Disappointing

[SirCakez]

Your snark is scary

[SirCakez]

Your snark is scary

yeah.
trying to work on it.

You're not mean or anything, don't worry about it

phew... this beeboy posting is SUPER stilted and weird

Ya but his softing is prob town

[SirCakez]

I thought he meant confirmable as town <.<

[SirCakez]

HA

[SirCakez]

That's intentional, he's scum

[SirCakez]

<3

[SirCakez]

Like I said earlier, if he doesn't confirm himself as town we lynch him.

[SirCakez]

Oh k
I think that's a possibility yeah

[SirCakez]

ugh not back to this

[SirCakez]

after Square flips scum we're taking a pitchfork to everyone on the Kuroi counterwagon (except Heartless obviously).

[SirCakez]

Why the fuck would you say something I agree with Cakez? Are you town here?

after Square flips scum we're taking a pitchfork to everyone on the Kuroi counterwagon (except Heartless obviously).

And me.

Obviously.

You're not confirmed town, silly BBT

[SirCakez]

i'm here, he's obviously trolling scum

[SirCakez]

now that my meta on square world was proven correct, you have no excuse for your bad read on me Gork/wis

[SirCakez]

High likelihood of scum inside third wheels/bbt

[SirCakez]

you can cut the scum theatre now, both of you

you really think I would have stood on that "drama causing question" point so long if I was scum?

[SirCakez]

ehh you'll come around wis
I have faith this will finally be the game where you stomp the scumteam and we're both town

[SirCakez]

heartless pls don't feed the trolling scum

[SirCakez]

q.q