Mini Theme 2008: Role Design Committee [Game Over]

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I want my rooolllleeee

And to submit my second rooollleeee

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I made a masonizer

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V/LA until Monday

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The game should start soon nico

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Cant wait!

Hopefully we can finally do the townblock thing we never got thr chance to do!

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Who says we can't vote just because it's pregame? We got our alignments so let's get the ball rolling

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I don't think I have ever seen TGP this active before

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I would have liked a little more reactions to my supposed scummy way of trying to townblock you.

I think chick and TGP are likely town off that (though I think TGP is a little shallow) and

I'm probably gonna go here

VOTE: Not known 15

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I'm also kinda interested in Nico for placing a vote on me considering how pregame went. Almost like she was just wanting to be on that easy wagon

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Oh also. I did not add any hidden mechs to any of my roles but even if I did, I wouldn't claim them because that defeats the purpose

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VOTE: stefan

This is scum guys

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1. Scum submitted that role Round 1.

Why does it specifically have to be a scum submission if it's the first round? No one had an alignment then, so why is it impossible for the person who made it draw town and said person hasnt posted yet, or opts to not claim it for their own reasons?

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Whos TIAM?

Also no i am not defending myself because ducky is alreasy doing it for me.

Stefan is playing opportunistically at best. I find it hard pressed to beleive that hes town here

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I will wait with a serious vote until we get the role.
VOTE: Snarky_Snowman, because there is only place for one snowman in this town.
Ducky, Snarky, Twoinamillion, Kokichi and Alonso, why didn't you post in the time between getting your aligment and the time to send your second role?

and i love how you just ignore everything above that


scumteam mom nico snarky confirmed
i'm only half joking

Yeah I ignored the Momrangeltownbockthing. A townblock between 2 persons formed in earlygame didn't look that scummy to me. It also deppends on pre-history between The Worst and Momrangel.

I also did think that a vote for a serious reason at that time would not be that helpful, since it helps scum to argue against it and not be that much in danger.

I mean this post shows that he can be logical and level headed but then he pushes two fallacious pushes on me and Koki?

Duck already explained why claiming hidden roles is against the spirit of the game. If the person wanted hidden mechanics to not be hidden they wouldnt have made it hidden to begin with.

Also the push on koki and the reason is fallacious as all fuck

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Also saying im scum for not claimimg DV is lulzy as fuck considering that its going to be obvious one way or another. Its nothing for me to hide

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At the top of my head I know of at last one post from Mom towards you (townbloc) that speaks strongly against you beeing a scumbuddy of hers.

You literally just said...

That this was NAI pending history between me and duck so WTF is it

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Regarding chick...

My stance towards her reaction to backing Paradox instantly pings scum but she's the type of player (I've learned ) that just naturally does that. She would be null based off that alone but the rest of her posts lean towards a town mindset

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Whos TIAM?

Also no i am not defending myself because ducky is alreasy doing it for me.

Stefan is playing opportunistically at best. I find it hard pressed to beleive that hes town here

TIAM= TwoInAMillion

Why would you not at least question TW standing up for you? If he defended or answered questions for someone else, would you ask him about it?

And I just did a quick ISO of Stefan, and I'd like you to point out what you think is opportunistic. The only thing I could maybe construe as opportunistic is his vote on you, but I still think it has some good motivation.

Because answering him kills reactions and responses and those are gold in any kind of game.

Ducky is getting more and more transparent with each game I play with him.

Also I wouldn't. I would probably wait for something you was looking for regarding the buddiee questioning the buddier

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I also already explained it. The vote was oppotunistic. At the end of the day, I as a player never play transparently unless my emotions get ran up. I keep things ambiguous on purpose because it helps me generate reads and ultimately, he decided that one unclear action is harmless compared to another one, and the timing of when he decided to push me was interesting considering it was obvious when he started that I may be a somewhat easy lynch.

He doesn't know me, he doesn't know that I'm not a push over and can disable a wagon building on me. All he saw this game was a probable easy lynch.

I also already explained how he is able to reason though things so...

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we know nico stefan and mom are all scum

So.

You think me and Stefan immediately cross bus?

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Whos TIAM?

Also no i am not defending myself because ducky is alreasy doing it for me.

what the actual hell is this post
VOTE: mom

Its a statement

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V/LA to the 25th

- noted

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Also, chick, why would you make me back up the opposite team

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So who's here?

I read up to page 31 and I don't feel like reading any more so someone tldr what happened after Nico conftowned herself

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Also, I'm permanently V/LA over the weekends so erm...

V/LA extended till Monday morning

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So the 28th

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Hey duck!

Why is Nico still being wagoned

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Also who all was on your wagon? I'm pretty sure scum was on it. You never should have been pushed to lynch in any scenario

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did you read the full thing around my wagon? I became conftown by it, I feel holy

I kinda skimmed it. I know the results though!

I feel like the people who initially pushed you as scum though and decided to test your claim out was kinda... Odd. I dont feel like it was to neccesary of a thing and it was a wasted push

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Also if we could hold off on another day ending while im on vaycay i would much appreciate

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Mom: Why would you have not tested the claim?

Why would I? Without the actions that had literally just happened, I would have assumed that the day would have ended in a no lynch.

Besides that, what can scum ever hope to gain from what the duck has claimed? Like... There's absolutely zero scum motivation about it. As far as being infected, though it was clear that somebody made the role and could call duck on his bullshit if he was adding extra stuff to help him survive

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Also I'm well aware of my role and what it does

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Ehhh...

Still didn't fully read some of the stuff around ducky lynch but well caught up other wise.

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I don't explicitly read TGP but I am confused about where his wagon is coming from.

Currently I think at least one of Alonzo and Snarky may be scum, and chick, Stefan, duck and Nico are pretty solidly town

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I think im more willing to put my bets on Alonzo, have some free time so gonna do a few isos

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I think it is a towndrivenwaggon, the weakest read I have on Ankamius, but the rest I think is town.

Why do you townread Alonzo?

Why the bold? I just do. Main reason is I know where he is coming from, like I sometimes can see into his head.
It would be a bit of work to make it clear why, but this one is a strong read.

This is intriguing. Not entirely sure I agree. I don't really see much content really coming from him

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And OK, regarding your theory of chick/stefan being scum theatre, I do find it a bit of a stretch but I would be inclined to listen taking zombies into consideration. It isn't something that crossed my mind. The mod confirmed chicks action. (

I also just realized through a read through that that's information that I'm not supposed to have seen but I did see it

) but, even without that info that would be a venue I would look into when the pool is smaller.

Furthermore, I'm inclined to believe that Stefan's role is town

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Taking Zombies into consideration?
I think the fact that the mod confirmed Chick action is not a secret. If you saw more, than talk to the mod.

Necromancer game

Also all I know is devel confirmed it, but I no longer see the confirmation

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Also I did! Interested in pines catch up.

Do not like this ank wagon

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Why are there so many duckd

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Landed like, four hours ago yey! Still super deds.

Ank wagon is bad.

This new Chika wagon is bad.

Where's 15 at? We can go and wagon him

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It didn't

change

the read, it

affirmed

the read.

THEN WHAT ABOUT IT AFFIRMED THE READ?

We are going to run in circles over this....

You came in and immediately scum read the most town player in the game. Your reasons are ridiculous. Theres no scum motivation in wasting shots. And then to say it was all a reaction test is even more ridiculous.

This is also ridiculous

Here

VOTE: NK15

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Pretty sure he said he needed to wait till n3

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Also, this is great and all but I really don't want to hammer ank so...

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Snarkster

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Or NK. both are pretty close in reads

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Egodontprodmeplz

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Before:

Odd phase beloved princess even phase energizer.

Energizer being the exact opposite of BP and role activating upon lynch or kill

Second was a simple day 1shot masonizer

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Fuck this shit. This was meant to be easy.

Ok. What is the likelihood of a death miller and we are in lylo?

If we had a death Miller scum would have already won. We're in Mylo ATM regardless.

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Also chick I have your role. I thought you already knew that?

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I don't think I can be scum mechanically

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I also don't understand why you're cleared exactly.

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Im sorry when? Tgp confirmed two, and they are both dead with him

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And like I said, mechanically I can autowin in Lylo as scum considering I have a double vote

Pedit I confused Stefan with tgp.

Still he only confirmed everyone but you

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Not only did Stefan claim just two masons, but Alonzo is only has two shots. You clearly don't have my mason role and no one has claimed to even have made or alluded to have made whatever role you have

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Nico claimed to have made tgps role

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If theres one thing I hate, it's waking up to being hammered. I personally think it's rude to not even wait for me to appear.

In any case, congrats guys! If we lynched wrong today espionage would have gotten blocked and kill go elsewhere

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Im reading the dead thread and GUYS I AM A GIRL GODDAMMIT.

also, I made it a masonizer because ynaut. As much as I love to win, I love playing with psychology and my role more or less gave town that sliver of hope that there will be all these conf. Town around the next day only to see them all dead in one night.


TLDR:
I got more pleasure seeing those deaths today than I would have if I had made it a neigborizer

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Also NK

I made a hidden weak clause so, even if I made it a neigborizer, if said neigborizer targeted town then scum, neigborizer and the other town would die instead of Recruiting the targeted scum.

In essence, the role would be extremely proscum and because they aren't technically confirmed to each other, it would mean nothing for town.