Mini Normal 2197: Noraaland ~Endgame~

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VOTE: Titus

Hey all

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ITB have we played together?

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I'm E-2, fyi

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Yes. You can find my main easily enough if you search a little.

Hi friend

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Hey Murder.

Hey! Looking forward to playing with you again

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No one did anything wrong but I wanted to say that there will be ZERO negativity or toxicity in this game. This game is filled with my besties and you will all be kind and nice or else I'll kick you with my beary paw(Only I'm allowed to be a bully). I uh forgot to put this in the OP in bold so it gets a separate post.

Think of this game like chili. It has to be bell pepper level spice. If it ever comes close to jalapeño, everyone is getting kicked. On an unrelated note, jalapeños are yummy.

how are you alt slipping in a game you aren't even in lol

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Great, now you can be E-1!
VOTE: MURDERCAT

fair enough

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MURDERCAT: Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald, Titus, StatueSurfer, In the beginning [E-2]

Oh Flea switched, nevermind

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Oh, good catch Italiano. E-1 this early is a bit much.

I agree there is likely scum there, will take a look in a bit. Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?

Vote on Ari now srs.

VOTE: Ari

Murder do you have thoughts on your wagon

A couple yeah. I think Flea is ever so lean towny. You and Gamma get a pass. The vote I'd be most worried about is pikachu but I'd probably do that as town, so it's fine. ITB I am just going to sort later.

What do you make of Titus Infinity?

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the vote is now kinda serious

Current thoughts?

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Aw ok here is my current hero solve

{Ari, Infinity, Titus}

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There is no reason for you to be scum reading me.

I feel least confident about Titus, fwiw

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I was on my phone and didn't want to be killed

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I don't believe you

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I'm E-2, fyi

This post was scummy to me because it's like "hey make sure not to kill me" but you don't contribute anything.

I think this is the sort of thing that you would consider as a reason to SR someone as scum, but which as town you wouldn't actually put much weight on.
I don't see why as town you would do the whole fake strong read thing to me as I know you do it, but maybe you'd do it anyway.

What do you make of 42?

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Also it's not fake?

I'm talking about how you overstate read strength in the early game

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I don't believe that your read on me hasn't developed since my first 3 nothing posts.

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Flea come vote Ari with me please

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I don't believe that either

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It seems not to jive with what his perspective should be, namely that scum deliberately wagoned him to claim.

I am never claiming off an RVS wagon lol

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Do you want to vote infinity with me Titus?

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VOTE: Infinity

Flea change of plans

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Is agreeing scummy for Aristophanes? I’ve never played them.

It just reads as fake to me. Why wouldn't Ari look and decide who is scummy? I feel like those sorts of questions come from scum more often than not.
Also "good catch" reads as kinda fake when it comes directly after a VC lol

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Yeah, no.

VOTE: In the beginning

Toog this is weak :/
ITB isn't going to be that transparent as scum

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ok ok
I think you should reconsider Infinity though, I think he is too afraid to switch his read on me and I don't think town him would be SRing me

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Murdercat has a lot of initiative as town usually

You already quoted the reason why I'm town though

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You say I have a lot initiative as town and I am showing initiative which I wasn't when you first expressed your SR. Ergo, your read on me should shift towards town as I continue to show initiative.

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I was showing initiative well before that though

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(Which player is this referring to?)

StatueSurfer

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Explain.

This is a Titus rule that states that in any list of 3 or more players provided by scum, at least 1 of those players will be scum.

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Italiano corrected the mod VC which listed MurderCat at E-1 after MurderCat said they were at E-2 and got another vote.

Oh this makes more sense

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I'm also honestly having a soul connection with MC which is weird

Why is it weird?

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I'm not as big a fan of the omgus feel from Murder towards him.

Booo

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Flea the Magician: two people said Flea was definitely town? On the first day? Seriously?

Not definitely but I feel pretty good about it

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VOTE: Johnny

VOTE: johnny

ew

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Is MURDERCAT usually that calm in that situation?

I do sometimes have emotional reactions in games but not in a situation like that, no.

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Could you explain the reasonings behind this vote?

I did later, see 94

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especially when we have no idea who they are, well at least I have no idea who they are

I do know who they are

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Is this a general rejection of the wagon or of the sequential votes.

The wagon and I think the votes are weak

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This exactly

Why did you ask me about it then?
VOTE: Ari

I don't like the current wagon

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Do you have history with ari, murder? How do you usually read him?

uhhh this might actually be our first game? I feel like perhaps we had 1 together though, I will check.

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Amazingly, I have won all of my 4 my games with Ari, except Ari was town in all of them and I was scum in 3 of them
I will skim through them, should be fun. Hopefully Ari hasn't changed too much since 2016

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Am I not? I have posted a lot about you.
I am ok with my reads at the moment I think. I know I definitely don't like the current wagon.

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you transparently are less energetic than usual

I flat out disagree with this, I feel like I have more energy for this game than I have had for quite a while

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In student council you had way more energy than this, same with haunted village

Or at least, an attention to nuance

Or something is different idk

I mean see my sig, I only joined this game because I preinned a long time ago and I knew it would have a good plist

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Where's your head at right now, Gato de Muerto?

Honestly, I'm ok with an early flip, this is probably going to be a kinda memey game given it was gypyx designed so I'm not going to take it too seriously. But I don't think this is the right wagon.

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And you're not thinking "hmm why would infinity do something like this as scum" , even if you have a good answer

Or questioning me

Like, you know me well enough that you have so many tools available for you to sort me that you're not using

I think as town you are unlikely to gut scum read me given it hasn't happened before. I think as scum, there is motivation to try to do it as I think you think that I would be suspicious of you soul TRing me or weakly SRing me.

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How? I feel like this isn’t your worst game energy-wise but it doesn’t feel on par with like, mini 2170
There was also probably a bit more energy in your play in Student Council D1

Ok if you think this then maybe I will back off Infinity a little.

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Alrighty then
Murdercat who do you think is the scum?

I'm voting Ari still

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Beginning pls

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Why don’t you join us on Statue?

Statue seems fine to me too so far tbh

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I'll have to look back and find what post you're talking about to fully understand, I forget

42

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And by all means defend them for TSTBS if you know who they are and know it's NAI or Town!AI, but you cannot say the argument is weak when someone who doesn't know them says that they're scummy for it.

I think it is weak logic for anyone who has played more than 3 games on site, which beginning has

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VOTE: Statue, more confident this will flip scum over Johnny.

Baa

VOTE: Statue

I like the analysis, still not sure if it's scum or just new player but at least I think I'm voting with town

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You seem particularly focused on MURDERCAT; unusually so in my opinion. I think it would be better if you didn't spend all your time tunneling a single player.

Infinity always tries to sort me

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Dont remember them being this aggressive on you tho :/

To be fair, I don't think Infinity has ever had a gut Sr on me

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Infinity you should look through statue's iso real quick. It looked ok in context but if you look at the posts in the iso they do not look good.

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It just seems more devoid of content when you look at it all together imo

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I am suspecting Statute was quickly run up as a way of saving Johnny.

I don't like this take

VOTE: Titus

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Oh, good catch Italiano. E-1 this early is a bit much.

I agree there is likely scum there, will take a look in a bit. Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?

Gamma or Titus. Mayyyyybe statue

This is probably the worst of these posts yet
This is like quintessential rule of three I’d say

So Johnny Statute then? I could see that.

On a more serious note, I am fine with Johnny or Statue.

VOTE: Statue

I don't like the disappearing act after the wagon formed on him.

L minus 1

It is revisionist for Titus to claim that the Statue wagon was counter to Johnny scum considering she was clearly willing to go either way. It's a very convenient shift in light of what should be *conflicting* evidence for Titus's theories on D1.

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Because Titus is smarter than that

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Also Johnny has looked better over time as you have pointed out.

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Certainly not worse though, right?

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I'm gonna move MC up to my strongest townlean.

woo

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Yesterday's lim was clearly a town flip, and no one even bothered to ask for a claim.

Same issue with Momrangal, it's easy to say this in retrospect

Not trying to do anything to survive is often kinda towny but honestly who wants to let that slot live to later in the game anyway.

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If my theory is correct that scum jumped onto Statute to save Johnny, then scum would be in the early voters, particularly those who didn't vote Statute. The bussers would be towards the later part of the statute wagon. The names are purely different but for Jackson and myself, which suggests scum refused to bus.

Major Fos: Johnny and Jackson

VOTE: Johnny

UNVOTE:

I don't buy this but it makes me feel a bit better about Titus

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And yeah I'm sheeping Titus. Don't care what anyone says.

Italiano feels towny to me (for this whole post, not just the quoted bit)

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Also MURDERCAT you have been somewhat quiet imo even though you have the most posts in the game. I don't know I've played two games with you I believe, and you just seemed more involved in those games; like a more lasting effect in your posts and movements. This game it feels like you are on the outside looking in instead of inside trying to figure things out.

Maybe, I'm here though

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Well you had my eyes on my early SR on murder for a very similar reason, why didn't you point it out at the time?

VOTE: italiano you didn't scumslip but I still like this

Can you say more about this vote

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VOTE: Italiano

Infinity seems to be a dead wagon, and days are apparently 7 days now, so we should strive to get more done.

This worries me, infinity let's both be town are you worried about beginning? Also I assume you know who this is?

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ItalianoVD has requested replacement

guys the spice is simmering a little. less spice. less spice. thank you.

Yeah, though I think the replace-out post is +town, but I wanna see what the replacement says

hard disagree

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considering mom/italiano team?

VOTE: Italiano slot

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I liked Italiano too, but that replace out is sus

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The towny part is not replacing out under pressure, but making a post calling the people voting him idiots before doing so

Disagree, that is like super easy to fake. He had like 3 votes, town doesn't get worried/annoyed about that number of votes

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I don't know who it is though

Ok I won't say anything more about it, but I'd look into it

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: infinity

Doing a 180 on italiano

Is this a vote for infinity because infinity did a 180 or are you doing the 180?

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Welcome welcome

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Hi I've been skimming recent posts as they've been made but I'm here to post now.

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Is this because you townread Johnny or already scumread Titus or ???
The vote seems a little rash here and I'm not understanding the immediate jump here. What makes this take scummy, Murder?

I think I explained it a bit later, I thought Titus should be reevaluating

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This is a meh reason and I'm really not a fan of BoP reads.

This is not what this is

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k that might be all the backreading for tn but I think I have solid reads now.

Can you post a read list?

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SHEEEEEEEP and why does this feel like you're aiming at Mom when Gamma actually claimed intent - the usual point for a claim to happen, and Jonny hammered?

This really feels like you are twisting this in an attempt to find something scummy in it.

I'M MR TOWNSEEKS LOOK AT MEEEEE.

Once more, you don't appear to be reading me in good faith here. The wall posting is a style of posting, not an attempt to attract (or detract attention).

Aight my spicy solve rn is in Jonny, Beginning and Catto.

It's definitely spicy.

Mine happens to be Jackson, Infinity, and you rn.
VOTE: Jackson

This pings me

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Murdercat, do you like Ari's answer there?

I don't find anything AI in that particular strong of posts, but I'll say I want the lim to be in {Ari, Flea} today

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Caught up

VOTE: Ari

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From who? I've been pushing infinity since d1 and no one has paid attention to it

I did

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Yeah, Ari is town here. Look elsewhere please people.

I think you could be scum with Ari though..

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I think there has been enough requests for me to extend that I will just add one day.
(expired on 2021-03-09 20:56:03)

If that is still not enough time, I'm willing to give one more one day extension nearing deadline

Sorry I didn't realize we were close to deadline. For reference for curious people I was playing survivor which is why I've been lower energy for the last 2 months or so

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Ari strikes me as town.

I saw infinity in the pedit, I could see it? I already said we are town together

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MC I’m mixed on

Scum is more likely to either null read me or town lock me with little reasoning I've found

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[3] Infinity 324: Momrangal, Flea the Magician, In the beginning

my opinion is that these votes should move to ari or flea

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Why is flea scum?

fae isn't I just think your wagon isn't going through so we should consolidate into that 1v1

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Murdercat, do you like Ari's answer there?

I don't find anything AI in that particular strong of posts, but I'll say I want the lim to be in {Ari, Flea} today

This isn't a new thought for what it's worth

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I think if I am right that Flea is town and fae is the elim I have good arguments I can make on who the scum are off it.

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Dann would probably be in the poe later but wouldn't be in my top 3

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Well, I'll rephrase, I feel like I have a top 2 and I'm not sure who would be 3rd. Dann isn't in the top 2 and there's a lot of potential 3rds.

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Vote ari with me then

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The deadline is in 1 day, 3 hours, 49 minutes

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Boo no let's just lim someone we don't deserve another extension, it's not fair to scum team

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Infinity why are you voting Flea who is face up town?

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Flea has a very good scumgame

What is this a reference to? This is not my experience (no offense Flea)

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The first one is responding to the mod suggesting another extension, which I think is unreasonable for the scum team. It's not advocating for anything we should do "in game" it's an appeal to the mod (or rather, what we should do to prevent putting the mod in that position). The second is "in game" content, where I suggest that I don't want a Flea elim in particular.

Of your options I would prefer Dann, but right now my preferred lim has more votes than yours.

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Infinity why are you voting Flea who is face up town?

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Could've sworn ITB was crumbing an inno, oops

VOTE: dann

Can you quote it. Also what is your read on me

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I hopefully will look through the VCs later tonight. Instead I was looking at Italiano's and HC's ISO trying to get a lead on their target, since Italiano likely stopped the kill and is loyal. Double clear. Unfortunately, my read on that is that they checked me sooo...

quote it?

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No, vote Titus. Or disagree with me and tell me why. It's a short iso

I disagree. I believe there are better slots to go for. I don’t know what you saw/felt from Titus, but I can’t say I felt the same thing you did regarding the Day 1 wagons.

this?

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VOTE: Beginning

I'm amazed you don't know I'm town yet

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booo

Based on a skim of Ari's iso I would be surprised if there isn't at least 1 scum in {Beginning, Infinity}

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Also Titus is conf town to me

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Vote this please infinity, let's lim in here today

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I would like a summary of the game so far from JohnnyFarrar and Titus.

More saved Titus evidence, makes sense because Titus is probably the most obv kill N1

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Why should I not have townread Ari?

All the reasons I had pointed out?

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Preliminary reads:

MURDERCAT is probably town here.
Flea, Titus, and Ari are scum here. Maybe Toogeloo with that surface level vote.
VOTE: Titus

Si ce I've been asked a bunch now...Italiano corrected the mod VC which listed MurderCat at E-1 after MurderCat said they were at E-2 and got another vote. I was glad Italiano caught that error as E-1 seemed premature and a little close for comfort to me since lolhammers are always a possibility and early ones are hard to read.

Italiano also said there was definite scum on MurderCat so I asked wh ok they suspected lol

I know you have since moved your vote, Mom (is there a better nickname for you? Iunno if I like calling you mom ) but I am curious what made it more serious after I made 42.

Okay, Ari can be town. Toogeloo replaces Ari in my scum team guess.

What about this post made you change your mind?

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Titus come vote beginning for rule of 3

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{JohnnyFarrar, Momrangal, Titus} - these 3 are basically conf town and we should never lim them. I think us 4 can town block?

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You said you were 77% sure

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In my experience, that is a highish number for you. What is your current readlist?

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Dannflor scummyish

Why?

Which of us is scum?

No Titus read?

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Who do you think the protect was on if not Titus?

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Italiano said he didn't like Titus votes and Haschel specifically asked Titus for a summary upon replacing in and Titus is the obvious N1 kill who wasn't likely to get cop checked or anything

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I wish you were town in your other game

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I'm leaning town on Toog fwiw. Toog what do you think about Beginning?

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Gut read? I feel like I know Toog pretty well. I'm not sure how well I can express it in words, but Toog has no agenda as town and that seems to track here as well.

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openly voting with town reads instead of their own scum reads

How is this having an agenda? FYPOV you are town so what motivation is there for Toog to not vote you?

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Mom and Johnny please come vote with me

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4 will do for now

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I'm not sure either of you are town or scum tbh so I'm willing to consider it, but so far I don't really see it. Toog was pretty high on Ari, I think that's the strongest argument you have.

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Infinity did you ever quote what you thought was the crumb by the way?

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Also I'm just going to put this out there because I was thinking about it earlier, this is a gypyx game so don't 100% trust an unCC'd gunsmith claim.

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I don't think there has been a gunsmith claim, I think it's possibly a designed fake claim for scum.

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What part of it isn't normal? I think it's possible that backup gunsmith was in the game with no real gunsmith or even mafia gunsmith is possible. I believe both of those scenarios are normal.

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Neither does ari's push on flea

Flea is elimmed?

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Heat check: Beginning flips mafia gunsmith

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lmao, well I was right before faer flipped

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The deadline is in 5 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes

If you all don't want to read just sheep me please

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yeah, you in?

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Well I'll take it anyway if you are scum

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oops?

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And probably vote Infinity

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wrong game?

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Hi Titus, hope you and math had good birthdays

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aww

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The deadline is in 3 days, 7 hours, 24 minutes

We are waiting 2 more days and then elimming in {infinity, beginning} it seems

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I think you are correct. Want to try to case beginning?

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Why do you think beginning is scummy?

This is basically my reasoning as well, also meta

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Infinity was also pretty high on Ari town

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I mean I'm not voting infinity so

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Beginning, so we are on the same page. There were some things that make me think they are anti aligned, but I wouldn't be surprised if those things were planted and they are both scum.

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Beginning I'm like 80% sure is scum, it's infinity I'm not sure about

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my read list looks like this

What about Dann?

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Hi, vote beginning?

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<3

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Beginning what is your solve? Who is infinity's partner?

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The deadline is in 2 days, 7 hours, 42 minutes.

Infinity, I think it's on you to try to do something, I prefer beginning here, but I will make you claim at 24 hours left

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{JohnnyFarrar, Momrangal, Titus} - these 3 are basically conf town and we should never lim them. I think us 4 can town block?

I'm still good with this list. I feel like Beginning/Dann is making sense as a solve?

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Though I guess I don't get why scum Dann isn't hammering town Infinity, maybe he is hoping it just goes though without him?

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I guess I should be less sure Titus is town now given your claim

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VOTE: My friend JohnnyFarrar

Because fuck you, that's why <3

Votecount 1.7

[6] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes, Titus, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, StatueSurfer

[E-1]

[2] StatueSurfer:

ItalianoVD, Flea the Magician

[1] In the beginning:

Toogeloo

[1] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

[1] Titus:

In the beginning

[1] Aristophanes:

MURDERCAT

[2] Gamma Emerald:

JohnnyFarrar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to banish a tsunami to hell.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-03-02 21:22:35).

I feel like Johnny is very likely town given Ari let this vote sit while this wagon developed.

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And yeah anyone who voted Ari with me is good for now

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I guess I should be less sure Titus is town now given your claim

Actually though, I wonder if the fact that Haschel died means that Titus actually

was

the N1 target, not Mom

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@MURDERCAT, Why is Johnny on your locktown list? Sorry I have been working 12 hour days and struggling to keep up.

Ari voted Johnny and was fine with that wagon, johnny voted Ari instead of town Flea

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That's not very occam's razor-y, scum wouldn't take your babysitter claim seriously, and I'm just not sure why you would be killed n1?

We don't know why I would be the n1 kill. It's a conclusion we're drawing based on HC and Italiano's ISO.

This. But also the fact that scum killed Haschel suggests they may have been looking for someone who protected Titus versus someone who protected Mom (otherwise it's more likely you would be dead infinity)

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Infinity, what made you target mom?

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Actually wait, Infinity + Haschel makes a lot of sense for why there were 0 kills on N1

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I'm not sure we should talk about this too much

agreed

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I guess I'm just surprised you went for a town read and not a scum read, but things are starting to click a bit so I won't think too much about it right now

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Why would scum kill me? I'm probably gonna be mislimmed at some point

Yeah, but I also think there was not a great reason to kill Haschel unless they saw him as a PR

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Fair enough

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Gypyx roles are kinda nutty, that's the only reason I think it's possible. e.g.: viewtopic.php?p=12361666#p12361666

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I feel like a normal with a town loyal alien is already gypyx thing lol

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Because Infinity, the person you are voting, is at E-1 and nothing has happened in the game for like 3 days.
She claimed n1/n3 jailkeeper with you as the n1 target
I'd prefer to lim beginning if you are interested

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I believe that is possible

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I don't really expect scum to wait to claim like that though

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If you have a good case

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The deadline is in 1 day, 7 hours, 18 minutes.

I agree and given I was right on Ari and no one seems to care about the game, I don't really get the resistance to going with beginning? I'll hammer infinity if I need to but like, I'm pretty sure begging is just scum here.

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thanks!

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oops?

Sorry friend

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4 to yeet, we are at 5:2 in all likelihood so let's be careful. Don't want to let this game slip away.

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Vig is just even night I guess? I wonder when it is worth claims

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Yeah I don't think we will see a quick hammer but still. I'd like dann to claim at least I think? Kinda don't see how the poe works out without dann scum

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Can you case dann for me when you get a chance infinity?
Also would like some Titus vca
Also if dann could make a read list

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Sure can you quote some? I am checking if I'm willing to town bin you too

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Not necessarily, setup could help

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Of the 7 alive the only ones I'm willing to vote are dann, toogs, and salsa. Any objections there?

Probably those are my top 3

[MURDERCAT]

Will catch up later but dann needs to claim next now

[MURDERCAT]

Thanks Infinity

Dann needs to claim

[MURDERCAT]

wait for replacement

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This game has felt very slow for whatever reason

[MURDERCAT]

I think we should wait until everyone has claimed

[MURDERCAT]

Well let's hear the other claims to be sure.

Salsabil I think you are the only one left besides me, correct?

[MURDERCAT]

Oh also Johnny and Titus?

I think we go Salsabil then Titus then Johnny then me?

[MURDERCAT]

claim now

[MURDERCAT]

Titus now

[MURDERCAT]

The deadline is in 3 days, 6 hours, 4 minutes.

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I am a 1-shot novice vig, I set up Mom to take the kill for me because I knew I'd be conf town. Obviously one of Toog/Dann is scum, happy to do Dann first. I believe the infinity claim but I'm not 100% they are town.

Titus can you do some VCA assuming Dann is scum? I want to solve the game before I die tonight if possible.

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Mom was the N1 JK target, I pointed out that was an explanation as to no N1 kill. It means scum believes the infinity claim probably, for whatever that's worth

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I think mafia have a gunsmith, so I wouldn't underestimate that. I can't really see a way Dann is town here, but then who is the last scum?

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Spoiler: Votes

Votecount 1.1

[6]

MURDERCAT

:

Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil), Titus,

StatueSurfer

,

In the beginning

[E-2]

[2]

In the beginning

:

ItalianoVD

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

[1] Titus:

MURDERCAT

[1] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

[1]

Aristophanes

:

Momrangal

[1]

StatueSurfer

:

Flea The Magician

[2] Not Voting:

Toogeloo, JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.2

[5]

MURDERCAT

:

Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil), Titus,

StatueSurfer

,

In the beginning

[E-2]

[2]

In the beginning

:

ItalianoVD

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

[2]

Aristophanes

:

Momrangal

,

MURDERCAT

[1] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

[1]

StatueSurfer

:

Flea The Magician

[2] Not Voting:

Toogeloo, JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.3

[4]

MURDERCAT

:

Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil),

StatueSurfer

,

In the beginning

[E-3]

[3] Infinity 324:

Titus,

MURDERCAT

,

Momrangal

[2]

In the beginning

:

ItalianoVD

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

[1] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

[1]

StatueSurfer

:

Flea The Magician

[2] Not Voting:

Toogeloo, JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.4

[4]

In the beginning

:

ItalianoVD

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

Flea The Magician

, Toogeloo

[E-3]

[3]

MURDERCAT

:

Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil),

StatueSurfer

[3] Infinity 324:

Titus,

MURDERCAT

,

Momrangal

[1] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

[1] No Elim:

In the beginning

[1] Not Voting:

JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.5

[3]

In the beginning

:

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

Flea The Magician

, Toogeloo

[3] Infinity 324:

Titus,

MURDERCAT

,

Momrangal

[2]

MURDERCAT

:

Infinity 324,

StatueSurfer

[1] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

[1] Titus:

In the beginning

[1]

Aristophanes

:

Gamma Emerald (Salsabil)

[1]

StatueSurfer

:

ItalianoVD

[1] Not Voting:

JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.6

[4] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

, Titus, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil)

[E-3]

[3]

In the beginning

:

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

Flea The Magician

, Toogeloo

[2] Infinity 324:

MURDERCAT

,

Momrangal

[1] Titus:

In the beginning

[1]

StatueSurfer

:

ItalianoVD

[2] Not Voting:

JohnnyFarrar,

StatueSurfer

Votecount 1.7

[6] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

, Titus, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil),

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

StatueSurfer

[E-1]

[2]

StatueSurfer

:

ItalianoVD

,

Flea The Magician

[1]

In the beginning

:

Toogeloo

[1] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

[1] Titus:

In the beginning

[1]

Aristophanes

:

MURDERCAT

[2] Gamma Emerald (Salsabil):

JohnnyFarrar

Votecount 1.9

[6]

StatueSurfer

:

ItalianoVD

,

Flea The Magician

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

MURDERCAT

, Toogeloo, Titus

[E-1]

[3] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil),

StatueSurfer

[2] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

,

In the beginning

[1] Gamma Emerald (Salsabil):

JohnnyFarrar

[1] Not Voting:

Infinity

Votecount 1.10

[7]

StatueSurfer

:

ItalianoVD

,

Flea The Magician

,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

MURDERCAT

, Toogeloo, Titus, JohnnyFarrar

BANISHED

[3] JohnnyFarrar:

Aristophanes

, Gamma Emerald (Salsabil),

StatueSurfer

[2] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

,

In the beginning

[1] Not Voting:

Infinity

Votecount 2.1

[2] Titus:

JohnnyFarrar,

MURDERCAT

[2] JohnnyFarrar:

Titus,

ItalianoVD

[2]

ItalianoVD

:

Momrangal

, Infinity 324

[1] Infinity 324:

In the beginning

[5] Not Voting:

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

Aristophanes

,

Flea The Magician

, Toogeloo, Salsabil Faria

Votecount 2.2

[2] Titus:

JohnnyFarrar, Toogeloo

[2] JohnnyFarrar:

Titus,

Haschel Cedricson

[1]

Haschel Cedricson

:

In the beginning

[1] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

[1]

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

:

Infinity 324

[5] Not Voting:

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

,

Aristophanes

,

Flea The Magician

, Salsabil Faria,

MURDERCAT

Votecount 2.3

[4]

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

:

Infinity 324, Titus,

In the beginning

,

Flea The Magician

[E-3]

[2] Titus:

JohnnyFarrar,

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

[2]

Flea The Magician

:

Aristophanes

, Toogeloo

[2]

Aristophanes

:

MURDERCAT

,

Haschel Cedricson

[1] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

[1] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria

Votecount 2.4

[3]

Flea The Magician

:

Aristophanes

, Toogeloo,

Dannflor

[3]

Aristophanes

:

MURDERCAT

,

Haschel Cedricson

, JohnnyFarrar

[3] Infinity 324:

Momrangal

,

Flea The Magician

,

In the beginning

[2]

Jacksonvirgo (Dannflor)

:

Infinity 324, Titus

[1] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria

Votecount 2.5

[4]

Flea The Magician

:

Aristophanes

,

Dannflor

, Titus, Infinity 324

[E-3]

[3]

Aristophanes

:

MURDERCAT

, JohnnyFarrar,

Momrangal

[2] Toogeloo:

Dannflor

,

Haschel Cedricson

[1] Infinity 324:

In the beginning

[1]

Momrangal

:

Toogeloo

[1]

In the beginning

:

Flea The Magician

[1] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria

Votecount 3.1

[3] Infinity324:

Titus,

In the beginning

, Toogeloo

[E-2]

[2]

In the beginning

:

MURDERCAT

, Infinity 324

[E-3]

[1] Toogeloo:

Dannflor

[3] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria, JohnnyFarrar,

Momrangal

Votecount 3.2

[4] Infinity324:

Titus,

In the beginning

, Toogeloo,

Momrangal

[E-1]

[3]

In the beginning

:

MURDERCAT

, Infinity 324, JohnnyFarrar

[E-2]

[1] Toogeloo:

Dannflor

[1] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria

Votecount 3.3

[5]

In the beginning

:

MURDERCAT

, Infinity 324, JohnnyFarrar, Titus, Toogeloo

BANISHED

[2] Infinity324:

In the beginning

,

Momrangal

[1] Toogeloo:

Dannflor

[1] Not Voting:

Salsabil Faria

Need to think more on this, all colors are confirmed except me and Dann, but I think both will be confirmed tomorrow so /shrug