Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

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I'm physically ill and still have to work so bare with me please.

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I don't know why I townread jjh's brand of shitposting but I do.

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Titus what if i told u im gonna call u town all game

I'd worry given my posts match my health, barely not vomiting.

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Titus what if i told u im gonna call u town all game

I'd worry given my posts match my health, barely not vomiting.

Okay then i will do so =)

Fire why you wanna townread me?

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Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

*gets into pocket*

*starts looking for the paranoia button but gets blinded by fluff*

*falls asleep/writes novel/plays lol*

*will look for paranoia button when I return*

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If anyone wants to suggest the best uses for my abilities, I'm all ears.

you have an investigation and can check if players are lying. call out liars.

or you could just claim all invests immediately and make sure your role has zero utility, while outing the HP of other random players and making them easier to kill? i suppose.

from what i gathered theres no reason people would lie about SP abilities so don't think that will be really useful "invest"
unless im misunderstanding role.

I have reason to think they might.

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VOTE: NotMafia

kill all robot alien monster goats

VOTE: anya

My vca is part robot this game.

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reads:
titus town
morph the cat very likely town
toog likely town
chara scum

anyways going back to work cya laterzs

these reads are awful

Why? What's your anya read?

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Joining this game was a bad idea.

This is probably the best built game that will be run this year so if you miss out you're just gonna have a bad case of FOMO

Based on what are you saying that this is the best game built? Do you have knowledge of more me hanics or roles than us?

This is yucky.

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This is yucky.

How so? It seems rather insightful to me.

Rolefishing is insightful? We all can tell this game has unique mechanics. We all must have discord.

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G, what's your anya read?

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Anya, SS, G

My sick mind's theory as to who scum are. SS is the weakest

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G, why should anyone townread you?

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Bell is so flipping dead hahahahahahaha

You're an alt aren't you. You read fake but tonally town

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You can't townread someone who's insane

Sure I can. Insane people are only people who live in a different reality than we do. As long as we know that difference, they're as readable as anyone else.

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I find your opinion on Fark to be window dressing Murdercat.

oh hell yes lace into him

UNLEASH AVENGERBELL

Stop with the melodrama. It ain't legit.

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Meanwhile we have Anya and G who are good targets

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VLA until Sunday

There isn't really an I am sick as fuck option. I'm doing the best I can right now. I strongly feel Anya and G are teamed. I can't prove it but G's reaction is OMGUS for omgus sake. I could buy a certain amount of bias after our last game, but this just feels like they're hiding instead. There's no hunting, just whining.

When I asked G to give a read on Anya (who I had gut pings on at the time), they tried to pass the buck.

When Anya votes G, there's no interaction there.

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Mastina situation is unfortunate, I was hoping to get to play with them.

Read through the thread, struggling to process stuff to make reads off of.

Morph townread - Thought this from early on, primarily on tone. It's continued to be consistent.
Dunn scumread - Specifically the mastina vote didn't make sense from a logical standpoint and 402 is a poor reaction.
Titus scumread - their scumreads on both guillo & anya are over play style things and so seem lazy.

Why are you automatically assuming the reason for my reads? Why didn't you ask?

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Ndmath is scum. I can't analyze depth but i can analyze them skipping right over my reply to them.

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@G, Your reasoning for your scumreads is all people who have disagreed/had conflict with you on some level.

There's a whole game not centered on you. LLD Murdercat bingle fire

I feel these slots are town. You have zero comment.

You can sort outside of you. I have been hoping you do. Despite your volume, you aren't my largest scumread. I've been praying for you to give an overview of outside events so I could sort you as either petty or scummy. Your hesitation pushes the needle towards scum.

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You're missing three layups from your reads, Titus. And that's excluding myself, even.

Morph, I know you mentioned my real life voice but I am not recognizing you at the moment.

@G, You have time. I don't expect you to be right or wrong but I expect something beyond these people FoS me so scum. I am not even voting you despite you having a large wagon for awhile. I can plead with you and give you an opportunity but I can't give you the answers.

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You're missing three layups from your reads, Titus. And that's excluding myself, even.

Morph, I know you mentioned my real life voice but I am not recognizing you at the moment.

@G, You have time. I don't expect you to be right or wrong but I expect something beyond these people FoS me so scum. I am not even voting you despite you having a large wagon for awhile. I can plead with you and give you an opportunity but I can't give you the answers.

Yep. We got pulled over in your car on the way from the train station that one time!~

Ahh the wonders of Titus meet.

I'm wanting to do it again, but this time rent an airbnb

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Anyways, titus, do you disagree with the consensus of toog-town? Or did you just leave him off that list because he's not active this evening?

What? Toog's in the game?

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Airbnb wasn't a thing and Titusmeet had Murphys law.

I ISOed Toog and he early claimed. I'm whatever on Toog.

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I am significantly concerned we're dealing with another "lol 2020" scumteam btw.

My brain wants to go there as well but I am just focusing on easy in 99% of my reads because its what I can do. I'm asking for help with problem slots like G.

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Anyway, if I post more tonight, smack me upside the head. I need to sleep so I feel alive tmo.

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@G, Your reasoning for your scumreads is all people who have disagreed/had conflict with you on some level.

There's a whole game not centered on you. LLD Murdercat bingle fire

I feel these slots are town. You have zero comment.

You can sort outside of you. I have been hoping you do. Despite your volume, you aren't my largest scumread. I've been praying for you to give an overview of outside events so I could sort you as either petty or scummy. Your hesitation pushes the needle towards scum.

Scumguollotina has a much broader gameview than town guillotina and it shows.

Townguillotina is much more omgussy that scumguillotina. ScumG has a better sense of when to back off

You on the other hand seem to be playing rather politically and reserved. Whats up? Lets go on a hunting trip together!

Your thoughts are noted. If there's something you think needs my attention, feel free to ask. Otherwise, I am commenting what i can where I can.

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My anya vote isn't doing anything.

VOTE: Arte

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VOTE: NotMafia

kill all robot alien monster goats

Look at their iso to this point. This post particularly pinged but there's no solving. Some fluff is ok but we're past fluff.

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VOTE: NotMafia

kill all robot alien monster goats

Look at their iso to this point. This post particularly pinged but there's no solving. Some fluff is ok but we're past fluff.

ok but a) I feel like this is literally just what anya does and b) you have played with anya and you should know that? She just enjoys posting nonsense. There's some substance mixed in but you have to wade through layers of abstraction to find it.

There doesn't seem like much here that is outside of that range to me?

I don't particularly care for meta and I'm not guessing what Anya's content is.

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I'm not sorting through signal to noise when I'm sick. You can like it or not. I don't care. I'm also not translating posts about shoelaces.

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i know this player posts a lot of fluff as either alignment

There's your problem.
I don't care to meta.
Second, even if I did, voting a player with high garbage to noise ratio is a great place to get more content as pressure might help them comply.

An unreadable slot is garbage and scummy. I play to win and voting slots that ping me and are anti-town is good.

Why the concern after I move my vote?

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Because I'm trying to sort you. Why should you moving on change what my reaction to your actions is?

The concern is that you're shifting the context away from Atre/Whemestar, which are good sorting wagons. I am trying to sort whether that's coincidence or genuine.

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I particularly am not a fan of you saying I should take Anya's regular posting into account but you not taking my limited mental reserves into account.

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Sidebar-

Titus, I can vouch that what Shea is stating about Anya is true. I just came out of a large normal having the exact same issues you're currently going through with the posting. It was my first time playing with her.

Because I'm trying to sort you. Why should you moving on change what my reaction to your actions is?

The concern is that you're shifting the context away from Atre/Whemestar, which are good sorting wagons. I am trying to sort whether that's coincidence or genuine.

Hm.

Why are Atre/Wheme better sorting wagons as dueling wagons than either of them and you?

From my perspective, I already know my own alignment. I have a high tendancy to OMGUS. They also happened organically.

From an objective perspective (removing play), any wagons are good for sorting.

I feel like I am onto something and that's why the sudden pressure.

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As for what Shea is stating to be true, I'm not disputing it at all. I just don’t find it town.

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@Titus: I see it differently. Arte/Wheme are largely being wagoned for the same reasons in my eyes. If another option comes around for markedly different reasons (one specific scummy behavior compared to a lack of presence/towny behavior) we can look at the way people move compared to those differences. I also don't think Shea jumping on you is designed to distract from Anya/Wheme specifically and is probably just town in general.

Who do you think is scum pressuring you? Are they doing it because Anya is scum or because Anya is LHF?

That part I'm not sure of. I probably shouldn't have voiced suspicions too soon as it would have been more useful to see if Shea was followed.

I found Arte's push on me awkward saying that I was political when most of my opinions have been unpopular/ignored. (G being an exception but I am less certain there. I drive people to vendetta pushes. I don't know why but I do.)

It's too early to say who specifically is pushing me for being right on scum. It's a general feeling I have though.

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Okay. I'm thinking about Mara now, but in the meantime... Do you recall the three step plan I spelled out pregame in Tenet?

I want to prevent that from working here, and I need a third set of eyes on it to confirm my gut is right here.

I try to forget that game. Can you link me?

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Okay. I'm thinking about Mara now, but in the meantime... Do you recall the three step plan I spelled out pregame in Tenet?

I want to prevent that from working here, and I need a third set of eyes on it to confirm my gut is right here.

I try to forget that game. Can you link me?

It was in the scum discord channel.

I can paraphrase though:

Phase one: elim the low hanging fruit that wasn't mafia
Phase two: Pivot to expanding the scumpool via paranoia and setup spec and hope town ignores the low hanging fruit that is Mafia
Phase three: use the near majority to win off of one or two players with abysmal reads

In tenet, the pivot from phase one to two was us expanding the scum pool away from A50/Gypyx/Spiffeh/Pooks and towards Bell/Skitter/Notsci et al.

I think you were helped by the rescue mechanic immensely. :/

For the 3 part plan to work, active mafia are needed which is not a 2020 scumteam game. Right now, I think we're headed for a solid townblock which counters that.

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1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Town
2. Dunnstral - Null town
3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - Null town, only reserve is buddying.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - Weak town (solely bc past baggage, anyone else solid town)
6. jjh927 Ircher - Null
7. Artemiana - Null scum
8. Sigmund - Null, gtmh town
9. Titus - Moonwalker
10. Bell - Townish
12. NDMath - lean scum
13. WhemeStar - Null, would compromise
14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR
15. Anya - lean scum
16. Guillotina - Null, high priority to sort
17. Toogeloo - Weak town
18. Flea the Magician - Null (I need to sort them)
19. Chara - Weak town
20. Thestatusquo - I want to say town but keeps defending scum
21. MURDERCAT - Town
22. Farkran - Town
23. Bingle - Town
24. Something_Smart - Weak town

I'm ok with this for now

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14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR

Notsci has admitted it's self-imposed FYI.

I know. That doesn't make him any easier to read. I've done self imposed PRs before too. It's a valid tactic.

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Morph, is the townblock good enough for today to conquer that strategy.

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Morph, is the townblock good enough for today to conquer that strategy.

It's amusing to me, because we have nearly no overlap with our strong town names, hah.

Let us think about it.

This is something I'd like feedback on when you two get back together. I want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.

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3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town

ISO this and tell me how you get town.

I see basic attempts with expected reactions. I don't get a scum vibe from them at all.

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We're going back to our den and coming back with a reads list. Titus, our heads en hydra fairly synchronized, I meant that OUR informal list and yours had disagreements.

I'm seeking feedback on this. That's why I put out my reads list. I feel confident you're town and I want a solid townblock going.

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@morph, can you talk to me about Flea?

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I'll admit, reading Faer's catchup was too taxing for me. I'm largely doing tonal/objective reading and it's hard to get that without focusing on multiple things at once. I'm ok deferring to your read for now as I have other people who are more needing of pushing. I'll be doing my own assessment of Flea later.

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I think I Usually disagree with Titus reasoning but I always have similar reads to Titus which makes me think I’m wrong and Titus is scum. They usually are town when this happens though so maybe Titus is town here

Also VOTE: Option 2

I don't understand what you mean regarding Titus.

- you usually have different reasons, but your reads are usually similar to hers?
- you usually scumread titus for this, but she's usually town?

Yah I feel like every game I play with Titus I vote the same person as them but then I always scumread Titus for some reason but they end up being town

How do you feel about my current reads?

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Fear no. Respect for strengths, yes.

This is where towns function well. I like to lean on my trs early for feedback and swing for the fences later because I know my strengths.

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I don't like either wagon, but the response on me suggests I should like one of the two wagons. Ugh.

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I don't like either wagon,

but the response on me suggests I should like one of the two wagons

. Ugh.

I don't understand what you mean by the bolded?

Me being the third wagon choice suggests scum are wagon shopping.

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Can I just say that Titus is being *extra* confusing this game.

I'm not trying to be. I guess that's just me posting while sick. That's why I put the disclaimer.

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LLD/morph, can you sheep me?

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Yeah, I was slayers gambiting as a D1 IC because I knew I could get away with it, but there was absolutely no way we were getting AI info out of that wagon at that point.

*grumbles* My VCA

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I embrace being perceived as having moonlogic because I accept there's no way to change this. I am an aspie as such the world is quite a bit gibberish to me when it comes to emotions. I should be much better at mafia for the amount of time I play but I really just come up with coping strategies.

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You're townier than Bell

This bugs me. The way it's phrased looks like it comes from someone who knows that Bell is town and is using him as reference to classify others.

Bingle's an IC.

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@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

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@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

If you think I'm scumreading Flea then you don't know what my reads are.

I don't think you are but your voting isn't making sense to me. We have a large overlap yet I can't get you or anyone to vote scum with me.

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I pretty strongly disagree with an Anya vote. I don’t know who A is and I don’t feel like guillotina is scum this game.

A is Artemiana

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@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

What about it felt fake? (None of it was it).

You were quoting posts after Bingle was revealed to be an IC and then claiming not to know.

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Vote math with me and hope for the best?

Ok.

VOTE: NDMath

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Shea, who do you think is town? I see a lot of posts shading people but not many trying to unify.

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I can vote Ircher.

VOTE: Ircher

Not my favorite but it beats most everything else with traction.

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What's the deal with people not liking robots?

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I pmmed the mod that I voted Ircher.

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Why fire an N0 debuff as town? You're more likely to hit town and you get no information off it.

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want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.

On the second game day?

We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.

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want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.

On the second game day?

We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.

Wagon me

You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.

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VOTE: titus

I think we need a different leading wagon

You never did answer just how was I playing politically.

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VOTE: titus

I think we need a different leading wagon

You never did answer just how was I playing politically.

Nevermind on this. I missed a post.

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You on the other hand seem to be playing rather politically and reserved. Whats up? Lets go on a hunting trip together!

how is titus playing political in anyway.

I don't think titus is making hard controversial reads in any sense, and is picking on players who could be easily wagoned.

Just because people are taking hard stances against her reads doesn't mean the hard stances are expected. Without prior experience, guillotina can be easy to push, especially when its just him fighting back. Anyas playstyle makes her an easy push, and my massive difference in time makes me a fairly easy push.

If she scum read me for my opening and My approach to her it makes more sense to vote me the moment she noticed it, not pages after and only when a wagon seems to be going in my direction

I only have one vote. I'm voting in my pool that has the largest wagon. Yes, I am voting when wagons form and that's because I have the persuasiveness of a candle right now and I don't expect it to improve anytime soon without actual data to work with.

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want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.

On the second game day?

We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.

Wagon me

You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.

I don’t think I was ever in danger though. Why don’t you think I have a chance of being scum?

You're too transparent and open about asking for help. Town listening to your posts wouldn't want to wagon you because you're emotionally genuine. Scum won't want to wagon you because your being lost makes you vulnerable to being manipulated.

Scum want their miseliminations to either be layups or vocal people they can't con. That's why I am usually wagoned. I'm both weird and stubborn. You're neither weird nor stubborn.

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1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Town
2. Dunnstral - Null town
3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - Null town, only reserve is buddying.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - Weak town (solely bc past baggage, anyone else solid town)
6. jjh927 Ircher - Null
7. Artemiana - Null scum
8. Sigmund - Null, gtmh town
9. Titus - Moonwalker
10. Bell - Townish
12. NDMath - lean scum
13. WhemeStar - Null, would compromise
14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR
15. Anya - lean scum
16. Guillotina - Null, high priority to sort
17. Toogeloo - Weak town
18. Flea the Magician - Null (I need to sort them)
19. Chara - Weak town
20. Thestatusquo - I want to say town but keeps defending scum
21. MURDERCAT - Town
22. Farkran - Town
23. Bingle - Town
24. Something_Smart - Weak town

I'm ok with this for now

Who does and could you briefly elaborate why? I.e. "this guy because of this specific post; this other guy because his iso is just noise", etc

I already went over Anya because of their ISO being empty and that I wasn't going to translate them for content. Arte's opening was terrible, accusing me of being political when I'm not. Ircher's catchups are terrible.

G might be scum because of their bad OMGUS but it could be pretty.

Sigmund might be scum but feels townier lately and might have just been an easy push.

NDMath has been virtually non-existent and only replying. They have nothing unique to contribute which matches their last scum game I recall. That was ages ago though.

I would compromise on Flea/Wheme but I'd feel dirty about doing it.

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Is guillotina off the table for you now then?

He's something I am explicitly listening to my TRs on them for now. I'm not going to push him now that I voiced my concerns. I know about baggage and that I cause that.

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There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.

Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.

They're meh this game.

I've been wishing for Servant Assassin to swoop in and force Chara to do something alignment indicative. The iso to me is a highly polished surface and I can't see anything below that surface so far.

I might have to be the change I want to see in the world.

I'll try to do this.

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i don't see why i need to be sorted specifically. surely meh is enough. sure you can force me to step it up for the game's sake if i

do

get wagoned but i respond well to things besides that. i've given some reads to talk about, i don't think i'm being completely opaque here.

plus weekend v/la.

You could be someone's lynchpin to a theory of the game. There's no harm in rehashing your thoughts, particularly if a townread asks. I'm now curious as to your thoughts on the current gamestate.

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her play this game has so far been very "yeah, i see why Titus is doing that" which is a trait of town Titus.

There are quite a few who claim Titus is making sense, therefore she's scum. I hate that personally but it is there as an undercurrent.

How about me making sense makes me town?

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ask me about something specific?

Do you feel the wagons today lead to catching a scum?

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That's why I focused on the thing I found conciliatory before. The times I've seen caught scum Bell it kind of seemed to me like he was trying to please everyone and not make waves. This post is the literal opposite of that and seems pretty organic in tone i.e. I would be surprised if it were a conscious decision as scum to try to make me feel like he wasn't doing a thing that he doesn't even really know I think he sometimes does as scum.

I like this post because I was concerned you were just attacking and only defending scum.

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That's why I focused on the thing I found conciliatory before. The times I've seen caught scum Bell it kind of seemed to me like he was trying to please everyone and not make waves. This post is the literal opposite of that and seems pretty organic in tone i.e. I would be surprised if it were a conscious decision as scum to try to make me feel like he wasn't doing a thing that he doesn't even really know I think he sometimes does as scum.

I like this post because I was concerned you were just attacking and only defending scum.

I'm honestly pretty shocked that you think i would play that way as scum even if that was an accurate description of my play.

I judge everyone (or try to) by the same standard. Does this player hurt town? If so, what is their motivation. Your reluctance to call people town has been worrying me as town should be blocking to win.

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That's why I focused on the thing I found conciliatory before. The times I've seen caught scum Bell it kind of seemed to me like he was trying to please everyone and not make waves. This post is the literal opposite of that and seems pretty organic in tone i.e. I would be surprised if it were a conscious decision as scum to try to make me feel like he wasn't doing a thing that he doesn't even really know I think he sometimes does as scum.

I like this post because I was concerned you were just attacking and only defending scum.

I'm honestly pretty shocked that you think i would play that way as scum even if that was an accurate description of my play.

I judge everyone (or try to) by the same standard. Does this player hurt town? If so, what is their motivation. Your reluctance to call people town has been worrying me as town should be blocking to win.

I just don't think I've been refusing to call people town. I think that's just straight up not a fair or correct statement about my play this game.

A lot of your posts have been attacking people for being scum suspects then dropping it. I'm not saying you're refusing to do so. I just don’t see you working to find a town core, but when you occasionally do post that some people are town, I go back and doubt.

We need to solidify town then get rid of everyone else.

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I’m worried I’m agreeing with titus on things

What are you worried about?

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Why is agreeing with me something to be worried about?

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Not mafia is not on the playerlist

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Sorry about your trauma Flea

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Murder, your vote makes me sad.

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I want to be clear that the reason I'm voting Murderkitty is because he didn't bring me my mocha frappe.

This feels like a because Star Wars type vote. I'm tempted but I just don't see Murdercat as scum. I don't think the votes on him are scummy though.

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Also I really like Titus response to me I think I am going to lock town Titus for now

why are you voting White Fire, Wheme?

i don't like 1591.

Why? I like it. If you're curious, why not ask Shea about why he thinks Sigmund is a good vote.

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her play this game has so far been very "yeah, i see why Titus is doing that" which is a trait of town Titus.

There are quite a few who claim Titus is making sense, therefore she's scum. I hate that personally but it is there as an undercurrent.

How about me making sense makes me town?

i'm curious about what you thought of my response to this question, Titus.

Can you quote your response? I don't see it on the same page.

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I feel your analysis of my play is largely correct and gives me warm fuzzies that someone may get and respect me. Given the amount of usual Titus makes sense so that's worrying (at least Notty is honest about it), your view is refreshing. I have to worry about buddying but I largely like it as it is accurate.

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well i'm happy you find it accurate. i think if i were scum it at least still means i understand how you play.

i am a bit concerned that you didn't see the response and were not concerned about my apparent lack of an answer, though.

I was sick. I'm mostly better but occasionally I miss things when well and doubly so when sick. It's also possible that I thought it was right and just glossed over it. I'm not really sure what I was thinking.

[Titus]

LLD is fully capable of being angry as scum. See Tenet for a recent example.

[Titus]

ive also had a lack of engagement with hydra partner and the most we have gotten to communicate is agreeing titus = town

Really? I am the sole read you both agree on?

[Titus]

Fuck it.

VOTE: Not mafia

[Titus]

I wasn't voting not mafia before but let's make that mod vc psychic.

[Titus]

Can we get a decent wagon to stick? It feels as if scum are vote parking and refusing to bus.

[Titus]

Can we get a decent wagon to stick? It feels as if scum are vote parking and refusing to bus.

Do you townread Sigmund?

Yes.

[Titus]

Can we get a decent wagon to stick? It feels as if scum are vote parking and refusing to bus.

Do you townread Sigmund?

Ircher, Anya, Artemiana are a few good names.

[Titus]

Can we get a decent wagon to stick? It feels as if scum are vote parking and refusing to bus.

Do you townread Sigmund?

Ircher, Anya, Artemiana are a few good names.

NDMath is also a good vote.

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: artema

VOTE: artema

[Titus]

pedit: wrt titus, yes shea's point is really good and i'm still undecided what to do with titus. I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

I tried to push my wagons. I got shot down. So now, I am just following any good wagon.

Anya's still coasting.
Ircher's still not here.
Arte is still MIA after only defending themselves and shading me mostly.

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VOTE: Ircher

sure bingles there's still barely any pasta in his content

i prefer town but don't mind playing as wolf every once in a while

Why not artemenia

They're partners and Anya is trying to push through a different wagon.

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pedit: wrt titus, yes shea's point is really good and i'm still undecided what to do with titus. I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

I tried to push my wagons. I got shot down. So now, I am just following any good wagon.

Anya's still coasting.
Ircher's still not here.
Arte is still MIA after only defending themselves and shading me mostly.

In what way was N_M a good wagon by whatever definition you would prefer to use to justify it?

It wasn't. It wasn't a wagon on town, so I was literally jumping on anything that wasn't a townread. I'd rather eliminate an unknown mechanic possibility than town.

[Titus]

That justification does not jive with my understanding of how you play as town in literally any way.

You literally have no idea how I play then.

[Titus]

I hate to say that im a vengeful person, but sometimes i can be

This looks like a soft.

Then let her venge me. Look at the wiki. Always lim a vengeful claim.

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Theres an opportunity to leash the debuffer so im curious to why no one is capitalizing on it.

It would be obvious if a non-consensus person was debuffed because I doubt people would keep it quiet

Probably because there are a lot of debuffers in the game.

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I feel for LLD as Arte is pretty blatantly obvscum and the first scum we get to wagon. If this is a dual aligned gambit, it'll be exposed soon enough.

I find it pretty scummy to even use a debuff n0 as you're likely not hitting scum.

Still, I don't see morph faking an inno day 1. If it is scum fuckery, they have to do what LLD did in that game with fake masons and shit.

UNVOTE: Arte

[Titus]

VOTE: Ircher

[Titus]

I townread Chara now.
Dunn's posts are better, 1720 explained the major thing I had against him, and posts are feeling more different than the couple times I've played with scum!dunn.


VOTE: Sigmund
My reads are most similar to farkran's but disagree with his townread here.

Spoiler:

Yah, you are right, I misread and I got excited I got you in my "Gotcha Read".

Why is Sigmund town for you?

Same question for Titus

It's a toneread mostly, i think his attitude is hard to come around as scum. There are a few players who are able to pull that out but statistically it's >rand town.

Also it seems that his posts are aimed at having people talk and generally speaking advancing the game rather than stall. They are intervalled by trollish stuff but i don't see scumminess.

can you provide an example of where his posts are advancing the game

898 for example, but his whole approach really

It rings to me as if he wants to have people talk more, take stances and produce reads. Unless Sigmund is known for doing this as scum, that's how i interpret his activity here

Eh, i know it *can* be faked, i just think -statistically- it isn't how scum usually approach games. I don't know sigmund, maybe he's one of those players who would do that as scum. I would do that as scum for example, but i know i am not part of the majority. I don't want to metadive, although if you have a sample i can read it.

Also doing it *after* it has been pointed out isn't the same thing.

pedit: wrt titus, yes shea's point is really good and i'm still undecided what to do with titus. I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

Like I feel 1753 is a lot to infer from "half the players not voting are scum, Discuss.".
Your other main point being sigmund's attitude/approach; I don't get what type of player would play like this as town but then wouldn't also as scum? And that is necessary to call the overall approach >randtown.

This is still scum.

[Titus]

I'll try and catch up tonight. Work is slammed today.

[Titus]

Fuck it. Just reading from that shiny VC.

NDMath on Sigmund makes that a bad wagon.
There's no one suspect on Flea, aside from maybe Dunn but he's at the front. So I am moving Flea to would deadline compromise.

Ircher is the wagon people keep bailing from that will hit scum.

[Titus]

I have big doubts on ircher flipping scum but I am willing to vote there because I want to be right really bad

It's better than your vote on obvtown Fire

[Titus]

LLD is my spirit animal.

VOTE: anya

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

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I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?

Absolutely not.

[Titus]

I'm going to be very hit or miss until deadline.

[Titus]

Oh also, importantly...

NEWSFLASH: We dun gambitted. Artemiana is not confirmed by our role.* We are not exempt from being debuffed by scum.

* we feel that her reaction to our gambit is hella town, though, and we're HARD hard townreading her, hi lexirage~

Laterz, gotta go do work and stuff and stuff.

You're wrong. Please stop doing this to get your way on townreads.

[Titus]

It sure feels like it.

That's part of why it was so hard to get this scum flip as "confirmed town" was fighting against it.

[Titus]

VLA until Monday

[Titus]

LLD, I hope you stick around. I feel I vibe with you and that claim was utter bullshit to make.

[Titus]

Such a fakeclaim ruins the thread by psychologically implanting the idea that certain slots are town. Thus when you read a slot, it innately and unnaturally gets more town credit than it deserves. People read her posts with the supposition of town intent, when it could very well be scum.

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It's hard to be sure of reads. Garbage in garbage out. I still feel that we hit scum though as no one could give a reason to TR her.

[Titus]

Those were not the moves I expected.

VLA through Monday

I used a negative utility ability on someone. I won't say more than this since it cannot generate a guilty.

[Titus]

Well technically two.

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If that was a vig shot onto STD, you had better have a GOOD GODDAMN reason, we got his wraith-fruit last night and the last 48 hours of day one he was BLEEDING town.

I get the feeling either a) the vig is agency captured or b) the scum piled their innate shots onto the same targets.

[Titus]

VOTE: Chara <--- Where the votes tell me to go.

FoS

Artemiana <---- Where the decent consensus says go

FoS2

NDMath <---- My pocket read

[Titus]

I still think Flea is a good vote.

I would understand, but strongly disagree with, a Flea vig shot. Same with Sigmund.

They reveal what happened D1 but I got a good idea as to what happened day 1.

[Titus]

sigmund is almost def town for counterwagon to anya

I feel the same way about Flea.

[Titus]

FoS Artemiana <---- Where the decent consensus says go

?

Me and LLD have been vibing and accurate this game so far. I feel stronger about NDMath but that doesn't mean the evidence isn't there on Artemiana.

[Titus]

sigmund is almost def town for counterwagon to anya

I feel the same way about Flea.

didn't sigmund show up as a counter to flea before anya happened

Both were deadlocked until Anya came up as a wagon as far as I recall.

[Titus]

I'm not sure who the busser is but I like NDMath Chara and Artemiana as scum on Sigmund.

[Titus]

PI also have a goal to sort Shea/G. Right now, I favor G scum trying to pit me and Shea against each other.

[Titus]

Dunn, are you willing to vote NDMath with me?

@Ircher, Hi.

[Titus]

VOTE: NDMath

I thought Data Mining here was a good idea.

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Both Shea and Chara had extremely strong yet obtuse townreads to the point of actively fighting the wagon HARD on Anya.

I'm interested in hearing their reasons.

P.S. - Bingle, I will answer your question from the closing of day one if you still wish to hear it, but I'd like to take a little bit to have everyone check in first. Hopefully you can live with that.

I'm not going to cut in on Shea here but I think I know why shea avoided it partially without citing ongoing games.

[Titus]

VOTE: NDMath

I thought Data Mining here was a good idea.

You always think this tho.

I always thought anya was a good idea yesterday. This may be a rare hot early game from me.

[Titus]

I think Shea is derp town based on his interactions with me re:anya and their timing. Second opinions welcome.

[Titus]

Both Shea and Chara had extremely strong yet obtuse townreads to the point of actively fighting the wagon HARD on Anya.

I'm interested in hearing their reasons.

P.S. - Bingle, I will answer your question from the closing of day one if you still wish to hear it, but I'd like to take a little bit to have everyone check in first. Hopefully you can live with that.

I'm not going to cut in on Shea here but I think I know why shea avoided it partially without citing ongoing games.

Please don't stomp through our lines of questioning.

I'll avoid saying more then.

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1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - town
2. Dunnstral - weak town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - town
5. Lady Lambdadelta - moderate town
6. jjh927 Ircher - strong scum lean
7. Artemiana - strong scum lean
8. Sigmund - town
9. Titus - moon
10. Bell - town
12. NDMath - scum
13. WhemeStar - town
14. notscience - moderate town
16. Guillotina - nullscum
18. Flea the Magician - town
19. Chara - rocket fist scum
20. Thestatusquo - moderate town
21. MURDERCAT - weak town
22. Farkran - null
23. Bingle - town
24. Something_Smart - null scum

[Titus]

Ok so thoughts on me claiming my action

Whats the rule of thumb for this

If you think it's relevant go for it

Be sure you can't get info first. I wouldn't get anymore from mine.

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VOTE: Arte

That's impossible.

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Do you really think LLD would bus the scum partner with the powerful abilities when a lot of town players with *opinions* this game were barely even taking notice of or were actively defending Anya.

@titus

Well I don't know if Anya has the powerful abilities or not.

However, I doubt LLD hard busses there. She's only moderate town because I have seen her before.

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I HAVE A GUILTY ON TITUS

Bad post.

No turbo limming based on this.

Mara, i'm included to hear you out but the gamestate is such that you're probably gonna need to claim a little more than "guilty"

This is probably to sacrifice a known obvscum in exchange for discrediting my reads. No one pays attention to the reads of miseliminated players.

[Titus]

It's a straight cop guilty.

I'm a hexer.

My innate ability allows me to absorb SP and my one ability allows me to compare an alignment of another to my own with the cost of 3 SP

So who did you absorb?

Btw my actions are crumbed.

Rocket Fist Chara removed 1 hp from the game - innate
Data Mined NDMath (2 sp) - Blocked NDMath from regenerating SP.

[Titus]

It's a straight cop guilty.

I'm a hexer.

My innate ability allows me to absorb SP and my one ability allows me to compare an alignment of another to my own with the cost of 3 SP

So who did you absorb?

Btw my actions are crumbed.

Rocket Fist Chara removed 1 hp from the game - innate
Data Mined NDMath (2 sp) - Blocked NDMath from regenerating SP.

Did you even read day one Jesus Christ

You mean the Day 1 where I was one of the first to nail anya?

[Titus]

Well with a guilty I guess I don't have to say what I did last night.

If it undermines the bullshit, you should.

[Titus]

No more titus votes please.

And no notscience, we're keeping our hands and legs inside the monorail today. No chasing butterflies on the tracks.

1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - town
2. Dunnstral - weak town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - town
5. Lady Lambdadelta - moderate town
6. jjh927 Ircher - strong scum lean
7. Artemiana - strong scum lean
8. Sigmund - town
9. Titus - moon
10. Bell - town
12. NDMath - scum
13. WhemeStar - town
14. notscience - moderate town
16. Guillotina - nullscum
18. Flea the Magician - town
19. Chara - rocket fist scum
20. Thestatusquo - moderate town
21. MURDERCAT - weak town
22. Farkran - null
23. Bingle - town
24. Something_Smart - null scum

I'm Yggadroid if that helps. Anya bitching about robots pinged me but I couldn't say that.

[Titus]

Arte's either faking as town or as scum. Given almost everyone who immediately followed up was my scumread, I am betting scum faking.

[Titus]

Mara, explain to me the EXACT mechanics of how your guilty works. You choose a target and it compares it to your OWN alignment? That seems oddly worded.

Could be a scum role designed for an SK hunt. I never thought of that. Then when Arte claims we're different alignments, that would be true.

[Titus]

WF, do you have an innocent on me?

[Titus]

Like there should have been more paranoia instead there’s no doubt that morphs town making a dumb move

Yes. They're a hydra who I have played with a lot. They wouldn't likely fake an inno on a partner.

[Titus]

I gtg. Sunday night game night. In case shit hits the fan, you got my last reads.

[Titus]

I know for role reasons that this claim is bs btw

Something about all of this feels off, indeed.

I'm trying to understand why Mara's role would be worded the way it is.

That said, I don't doubt that she's hexer, with the SP stealing ability as claimed, at least.

I also happen to report that my data mining blocks SP regen.

Her claim is bogus.

[Titus]

I'm having a lot of trouble grokking this game but I've been saying something is off about Titus literally the entire game so i know which half of this i believe

Fuck it. This is why shea is town. Shea is fucking pissed I caught anya but I couldn't case her. Shea's read me as scum ever since and opposed everything I've done. He couldn't provide a town readon for anya but wouldn't move because I was on it.

I was hoping to see if shea's attitude would change and there's a partial acknowledgement which is consistent with proud players.

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I know for role reasons that this claim is bs btw

Something about all of this feels off, indeed.

I'm trying to understand why Mara's role would be worded the way it is.

That said, I don't doubt that she's hexer, with the SP stealing ability as claimed, at least.

I also happen to report that my data mining blocks SP regen.

Her claim is bogus.

You are claiming you blocked her SP regen?

She stole SP from us night zero.

No. I blocked NDMath from regenning.

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The thing that feels off is the huge amount of wiggle room white fire and Titus are giving themselves in comparison to art, not the other way around. It’s clear whose afraid to risk themselves and who isn’t.

I crumbed my actions preguilty so how exactly am I goving myself wiggle room?

[Titus]

I thi nk part of your hives is Titus somehow ignored the elephant in the room from day one snd its weird if she’s scum

Like someone would have brought it up in PT most likely

What am I ignoring?

[Titus]

You being clueless about Maras n1 action

The fake inno is irrelevant. See EoD

[Titus]

Link page where you crumbed and how it makes you 100% town.

My crumbs don't make me 100% town. They're just existing preguilty. I planned on crumbing my targets in case SP and HP tracking were important.

[Titus]

VOTE: NDMath

I thought Data Mining here was a good idea.

1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - town
2. Dunnstral - weak town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - town
5. Lady Lambdadelta - moderate town
6. jjh927 Ircher - strong scum lean
7. Artemiana - strong scum lean
8. Sigmund - town
9. Titus - moon
10. Bell - town
12. NDMath - scum
13. WhemeStar - town
14. notscience - moderate town
16. Guillotina - nullscum
18. Flea the Magician - town
19. Chara - rocket fist scum
20. Thestatusquo - moderate town
21. MURDERCAT - weak town
22. Farkran - null
23. Bingle - town
24. Something_Smart - null scum

[Titus]

Link page where you crumbed and how it makes you 100% town.

My crumbs don't make me 100% town. They're just existing preguilty. I planned on crumbing my targets in case SP and HP tracking were important.

Okay so you crumbed an ability on a target that is near universally suspected of being scum.

Yes. Negative utility. I crumbed my role was negative utility and unlikely to get a guilty.

[Titus]

I would not have been able to act tonight if I did not sap SP from someone else

I chose morph the cat because PENULTIMATE

and I made the assumption that I probably wouldn't have just delayed whatever it is that they could do to the second night stratum.

Neither head are dependant on their roles to win a game (except maybe neighbor as scum manipulative as they are) so their efficacy was not reduced

Also, my active ability allows me to see if two targets share an alignment or not

So you're claiming you self-targeted now in a game that routinely doesn't allow self targeting?

[Titus]

I did not rely on my rocks as I thought I would, but relied on the obv doppelganger after the ninja flip

You mean the dead slot that likely died with its owner as its not in the VCs.

[Titus]

Morph, think simpler.

Reread Anya's role pm. It says it creates the duplicate.

The duplicate should be dead when the owner dies.

[Titus]

It's a straight cop guilty.

I'm a hexer.

My innate ability allows me to absorb SP and my one ability allows me to compare an alignment of another to my own with the cost of 3 SP

This doesn't say anything about checking not mafia either.

[Titus]

Mod: When did Not_Mafia die, if he did?

N_M was nothing but a mirage, which is something that does not die, rather fades away.

[Titus]

So you're telling me that you still townread a slot that

A) Claimed to target itself and got a different result thus scum

Then

B) Claimed to target the dead guy

And

Conveniently has a soft CC role to my own.

[Titus]

I gtg ttyt

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Rocket Fist Chara removed 1 hp from the game - innate
Data Mined NDMath (2 sp) - Blocked NDMath from regenerating SP.

why didn't you target me with both abilities?

not that i'm complaining i guess.

You're more valuable flipped for my VCA.
NDMath was the scum I felt would live and needed to be stopped on further nights.

[Titus]

shouldn't Not Mafia have dissipated when anya was eliminated? how was the doppelganger even a valid target?

i saw someone confirm he was last night but i can't find it now.

That's what I felt.

I feel the mod is in a place where if they answer it confirms a player as scum, so he won't answer publicly.

[Titus]

Okay, yeah, Arte is locktown.

I very much doubt that scum would've been scared off by my softing PGO, but I was 100% doing that all day yesterday.

This is stupid. Any alignment would be scared of a PGO crumb.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

I HAVE A GUILTY ON TITUS

RIP.

VOTE: titus

VOTE: titus very fine with this too, i was sring her already

@artemiana do you have an innate attack ability too?

VOTE: TITUS

Get wrecked! LMAO!!!

Actually UNVOTE: Titus

So we dont speed yeet

Of these I think Fark and G are the worst, but honestly I think scum is more likely to just sit back and let town do their dirty work if this IS TvT.

Also I don't get how both Titus and Arte can be town if an illusion was targetted next to a real player and they got yes?

like that makes no sense

It’s basically based on the illusions alignment, if we killed it what does it flip? Either way it hurts town but would he count it as a town flip?

I have to imagine no, right?

Like I have to imagine it wouldn't flip at all. It doesn't have a role. It's a mirage, according to what I read from a mod edit.

So for Arte to be town, what Arte would have essentially learned is that I am breathing. :/

[Titus]

We'll step back then, fine, whatever.

People don't ATUALLY want another xenoblade cabd when they have to live with him in the moment.

They just want the end results :/

Except I'm 1-0 this game.

And I feel very on fire.

So this sudden burst of "ME CONTROL ME TOWNIE TOWN CENTER AROUND ME"

right after I just did a BoP test and fucking spiked it?

Reads like trying to ensure social control remains in your hands and not mine.

And I scumread that from you today.

PI also have a goal to sort Shea/G. Right now, I favor G scum trying to pit me and Shea against each other.

Titus, explain how did i try to pit you against Shea?

Your reads saying one of me/Shea must be scum.

[Titus]

Rocket Fist Chara removed 1 hp from the game - innate
Data Mined NDMath (2 sp) - Blocked NDMath from regenerating SP.

why didn't you target me with both abilities?

not that i'm complaining i guess.

You're more valuable flipped for my VCA.

NDMath was the scum I felt would live and needed to be stopped on further nights.

I hate this kind of reasoning.

But, we know that.

Ok. It should be confirmed that Chara did lose HP though and Chara isn't obvtown.

My actions make sense and they aren't changing when caught out.

I pushed to lim scum and protect town all day yesterday.

This "guilty" is most likely an attempt to silence me because all my townreads are right.

[Titus]

I don't think she's typically a gambity player but this smells like a gambit to me.

Well

I mean...

How do you think cabd and I originally hit off?

This is absolutely my role tho

So now you're claiming a gambit.

Fuck you and morph.

Shit like this makes playing town ten times harder.

You have literally shredded my credibility when I am fucking on fire.

Fuck you.

You still might be scum but I don't give a damn. This shit needs to stop.

[Titus]

I pushed to lim scum and protect town all day yesterday.

Why are you taking credit for LLDs actions?

I pushed anya before LLD.

It's what caused shea's scumread on me.

[Titus]

I'm claiming I'm a player that isn't afraid to play gambits

That same interaction is how shea can only be scum with you Arte.

There's no reason when I was giving up on getting anya for shea to pull the thread back to talking about you as scum unless shea was protecting you.

While shea has been consistently proud and wrong, I think shea is just proud town here.

[Titus]

Did I ever say I think shea is scum here?

No. I just wanted to contribute the fact Shea would be near locktown if you were actually giving me credit for the elimination rather than faking a guilty on me.

I want good reads in this thread and I'll fight for it.

[Titus]

I'm going to take a break. I need to see whether or not I feel Arte is scum or just being a jerk.

I may go vla but I'll know more later this week.

[Titus]

G's response is worrying.

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Arte

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@NDMath,

Confirm you didn't regenerate SP at the end of the stratum.

[Titus]

@Murder,

Do NDMath and Anya. It's worse.

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Murder, I have a problem with the LLD bus theory.

Why doesn't LLD just let us murderize Sigmund or Flea?

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Let's kill NDMath. They really need to die. They'll just keep prod dodging and defending buddies if we let them live.

Does anyone townread them?

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I think your focus on the bussers is wrong. Is it likely there's a busser? Sure. They're bussing in times of high conflict though.

Let's go for the lurker slot that has a hard on for defending scum instead.

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VLA until Friday

X post all games

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Can we murder NDMath yet? Look at their ISO. Their defense of anya and attacking my read.

This is obvious scum. Let's take the gimmies first.

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Murdercat could be scum but NDMath is just obvscum and will avoid this thread

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Isn't NDMath normally pretty quiet?

The only thing they did was shade my anya read.

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@NDMath,

Confirm you didn't regenerate SP at the end of the stratum.

I refuse.


I agree with the consensus opinion on murdercat, particularly regarding cat's bell read.
VOTE: murdercat
MurderCat Wagon (8/11): LLD, notsci, Farkran, Dunn, Sigmund, Chara, Guillo, NDMath

Why do you refuse to confirm that I targeted you and then just sneak onto the biggest wagon?

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This murdercat wagon is too easy.

We have lurker Ircher defending lurker NDMath who refuses to progress the game but for a slimy hop on. NDMath countered Anya. NDMath shaded my read on anya. NDMath is hardly here but what they do defends scum. They're scum.

Murdercat is the distraction.

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Shea, can you vote NDMath?

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There's a wagon on NDMath and I feel strongest on them.

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Titus scumread - their scumreads on both guillo & anya are over play style things and so seem lazy.

You agreed with this defense of anya?

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You don't agree with their vote on Murdercat.

Sigmund is likely town.