Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)

[RH9]

I didn’t read CL pm at all, or really the setup outside of prime cultists cause recruitment.
CL is aware on a no-elim they can recruit.
Beat as CL wanted to get a prime cultist killed d3 to recruit enchant and win via the no-elim idea, and make it seem like it’s a townie play ti *not* mention anything about that to town, but actually mention it to the rest of the cult

That is interesting.
Beat did say that she didn't want Cult to know.

CL is aware of that fact, and could reasonably assume governer can no-elim

So you're saying that Beat pretended that Cult wouldn't know?

Yes, the entire tinfoil idea revolves around not saying it publicly to “prevent cult from knowing” is a ploy to get towncred, when the cl can reasonably assume governer can no-elim

Got that.
Personally, I want Beat to explain ASAP why she thought Cult wouldn't know.

[Korina]

Also, more damning right now - the post from the mod specifically states the nightphase is skipped on non-prime death, or no-elim, so only someone who read the cl pm would know no-elim = nightphase

So yes, Beat has to be scum, or read the pm to get to that point, but occam’s dictates scum imo

[Korina]

@mod - please fix that as well

[RH9]

Also, more damning right now - the post from the mod specifically states the nightphase is skipped on non-prime death, or no-elim, so only someone who read the cl pm would know no-elim = nightphase

So yes, Beat has to be scum, or read the pm to get to that point, but occam’s dictates scum imo

I see.

[RH9]

Korina/Jacket/Furtive?

Around where I'm at minus Korina.
I'm still unsure on the third Cult, though.

Why am I not cult?

Missed this before.
I don't think that anything you did stood out to me as particularly like I would expect Cult to do.

[Enchant]

Eh. I am too aware that no-lim allows cult to convert and actually called it out... On first page?

Bah.

[RH9]

Eh. I am too aware that no-lim allows cult to convert and actually called it out... On first page?

Bah.

So maybe Beat caught on from you?

[furtiveglance]

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Jacket is cult leader. I've voted them repeatedly, no one is joining me. People keep going "why would CL fakeclaim?" and I can tell you why, it's so they get written off as prime and never voted. I know people will ignore me on this, this is mainly just for my sanity and bragging rights post game.

[RH9]

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Jacket is cult leader. I've voted them repeatedly, no one is joining me. People keep going "why would CL fakeclaim?" and I can tell you why, it's so they get written off as prime and never voted. I know people will ignore me on this, this is mainly just for my sanity and bragging rights post game.

Good point.
Though, I can still hardly see a Jacket wagon ending nicely.

[Beat]

I was keeping the information to myself in the instance that I was converted. If I knew that governor can force no lim (which feels unintended why would I have asked the mod (And the mod confirms someone asked) Additionally without telling cult everyone knows this they could recruit enchant and we would take cults numbers down today if we elimmed enchant.


Honestly elimming me prolongs the game to another day so i dont particularly disagree though Id obviously prefer pimming cl.

Furtiveglance is cult.
Jacket is cult.
Korina and BBT are not cult.

[Beat]

Thats what I got. This game has been all mech discussion which is good day 1 but it never led anywhere. I tried to get things going end of day 1 but it obviously didnt happen.

[RH9]

Beat, so you want Jacket or furtive limmed?

[RH9]

Also, Beat, what makes you think that you might get converted?

[Beat]

If it was likely wasnt my concern
I found no positive reason to publisizw that information sooner regardless of how the game continued (unless I was up yo be the lim, where i would share)

[Beat]

furtive should have been yesterday's lim.

Titus was a terrible lim.

[Beat]

That said i think neither are cl

[RH9]

furtive should have been yesterday's lim.

Titus was a terrible lim.

I see.
Is this in retrospect or not?

[Bellaphant]

furtive should have been yesterday's lim.

Titus was a terrible lim.

That said i think neither are cl

? If furtive isn't cl he's buddy and if we elim him we lose, right?

I don't know, i don't think the slot is as widely town read as some people are suggesting that cl should be. Their posts have always hovered around the null line.

[RH9]

Their posts have always hovered around the null line.

I agree. Same with Beat for me.

[Bellaphant]

Also, if I ever play cult again and role cl, I'm playing like jacket. It's refuge in audacity, isn't it. Be so scummy that you couldn't be the right kind of scum

P-edit I briefly moved beat up from my scum pile but then put them back when I realised they still hadnt spoken to me to sort me after scum binning me on page eight.

[RH9]

Also, if I ever play cult again and role cl, I'm playing like jacket. It's refuge in audacity, isn't it. Be so scummy that you couldn't be the right kind of scum

So you think that Jacket is CL?

[Enchant]

If you want shot at vengeful claims, do it on elo when it doesn't matter if we hit townie or prime.

[Enchant]

Btw right now we dealing with two Jesters who want to be elimmed, but shouldn't and circus director who want to look like they want to be elimmed, but not really.

Personally i think Jacket is cult. Not CL though.

[Bellaphant]

Cult wins if, basically, they elim enough vt and have at least one prime recruit, yes? If the vibe of a town is never to elim in the venge, then it's actually fairly easy: you've got a 2/7 chance of town hitting prime in the vt claims. Plus, everyone knows you are 'scum', so you can't be cl.

It's high risk high reward isn't it.

Jacket being scum of some sort isn't news though, I was happy with this on day one. It narrows down a Poe but then you still have to hit the right scum . It also depends on the combinations, as to how cults interacted and who's more likely to be leader.

Beat/jacket/furtive probably beat (more widely town read, but not getting attention)
Korina/jacket/furtive - probably jacket (makes korina v furtive scum theatre, korina loud voice against elim-ing 'in the claims ', disinterested actively enough to get elimed and get a recuit)

Or then like....beat/bbt/jacket ...who the fuck knows where cult leader is in that. Not jacket?

Does what I'm saying make sense? I think it's why I'm in a knot - I don't have a definitive 'cl' at this point because I think 'good' cl play looks very different in different combos.

P-edit can you rephrase the sentence after 'cirus director....' enchant? I can't follow, but it is 3am

[RH9]

Btw right now we dealing with two Jesters who want to be elimmed, but shouldn't and circus director who want to look like they want to be elimmed, but not really.

Personally i think Jacket is cult. Not CL though.

Who are the Jesters and Circus Director?