Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[skitter30]

I think i was annoyed that you voted me
I probably don't actually think ur scum here
UNVOTE:

I have to counts the votes but i probably go back to voting dats here

[Night Shade]

I would like shea to explain his feelings about my emotional reaction to things.

I also think datisi feels off but maybe this is a sign we are not graced with the 9000iq presence of scum datisi

idk dude you really need like 4 posts and rending of your garments to be like I rolled miller and I'm not happy about it?

[Ausuka]

yes. fight me

[Night Shade]

something feels Off about the skitter/shea conversation

no i don't know exactly what i'll figure it out at some point

Yes plz vote shea ty

Enjoy ur trip

Doesn't really seem like someone who "only voted me because they're annoyed" and "doesn't think [I'm] scum here" tbh.

[skitter30]

I have no idea why you think i should know how to read you

And this feels like a misrep.

Here is what I said

My bravado is always there, thats how I get reads. I feel like you should know this.

in response to you saying you didn't understand the bravado of my read.

That is not just a subtly different statement then me claiming "you should know how to read me" its not even in the same ballpark. I am saying you should have at least have passing familiarity with my playstyle and know that I am aggressive and loud, which is a much more reasonable claim than like the one you're attacking here which is like pretending I'm nancy drew and saying you're scum for not town reading me.

Fair enuf
Pedit
Ok i see we're going to clash a lot and i'm not going to like this

In the moment i did not like ur take on me, and it made me scumread u
And when dats said he wanted to vote within this pair:
- his reaction was bad
- i wanted to see if he would actually do it
- and if so who and what reasoning he would give

Also i was scumreading u and wanting more votes on you

As this convo goes on i am less sure abt the scumread and thinking i might be scumreading a personality, and i am choosing to back off now and reasseasing later

[Datisi]

why was my reaction bad

the convo you and shea were having was lowkey bizzare

[skitter30]

Plz elaborate on said bizareness

[Datisi]

shea made a kind of passing comment that i feel like gets made a lot in mafia

you jumped in disliking it (which like ok) and asking if he thinks she fakeclaims like that as scum (which like, is A Logical thing to ask but i feel like town-shea wouldn't have been operating on that, he was just saying how something felt, and as if you're trying to make his take more ridiculous than it really is)

his response was to vote you, but not for the weird lowkey putting words into his mouth, but for deliberately misunderstanding (?) (which as i type might even be overlapping or same but at the time struck me as ???)

and then you double down on. voting him. and demanding that he explains why he thinks scum her would fakeclaim and it feels like you're voting him for not being perfectly thought out,, which feels bad because tiwn is not perfectly thought out all the time. then you also comment on the fact he's shading her, which makes more sense as something scummy but also it was just a Passing Comment that again, i fwel like they happen all the time in mafia and you're making a more big of a deal than it really is

it's weird!! the whole conversation was weird being held between two good and experienced players!!

[Ausuka]

"This person who I know extremely well sounds over the top to me compared to when she is legitimately upset that I have witnessed."

I mean sincerely I am referring to this. I think in a vacuum it is not unreasonable for someone who does not know my feelings about millers in advance to raise an eyebrow at my entrance but this line kind of caught my eye because I don't think being slightly over-the-top about frustration is particularly out of character for me. Like I did not 'need' to use profanity to demonstrate how much I hate the colour yellow-green on discord yesterday but I did so anyway.

[skitter30]

@dats yes like i already said
I agree that shea is not like the scummiest scum to obvscum

But it felt weird and pinged
And i think at this stage of the game jumping on things that ping is how to get things rolling

[Infinity 324]

not the biggest fan of infinity's weaksauce attention diversion from the main argument (yes this is partly fueled by omgus but i still think it's odd with how little comment they handvawed skitt/shea)

really? like what does it say to you that we don't have much of an opinion on shea's alignment from that interaction

[Infinity 324]

also why as scum do we try to divert attention from a 1v1 that is probably just gonna draw more attention to itself

[Aristeia]

my page five guess for the scum team is skitter + dats

it kind of feels like their early interaction in pictures where they're kind of just fighting about something that's nonsensical and neither is really sorting the other.

[Infinity 324]

why does everyone scumread dats it's making me doubt the read >_>

-ivy

[Aristeia]

shea made a kind of passing comment that i feel like gets made a lot in mafia

you jumped in disliking it (which like ok) and asking if he thinks she fakeclaims like that as scum (which like, is A Logical thing to ask but i feel like town-shea wouldn't have been operating on that, he was just saying how something felt, and as if you're trying to make his take more ridiculous than it really is)

his response was to vote you, but not for the weird lowkey putting words into his mouth, but for deliberately misunderstanding (?) (which as i type might even be overlapping or same but at the time struck me as ???)

and then you double down on. voting him. and demanding that he explains why he thinks scum her would fakeclaim and it feels like you're voting him for not being perfectly thought out,, which feels bad because tiwn is not perfectly thought out all the time. then you also comment on the fact he's shading her, which makes more sense as something scummy but also it was just a Passing Comment that again, i fwel like they happen all the time in mafia and you're making a more big of a deal than it really is

it's weird!! the whole conversation was weird being held between two good and experienced players!!

like is there even a conclusion to this? what does bizarreness have to do with alignment?

also there's a bit of false equivalence here - I don't see Shea's reaction as bizarre at all - this is pretty much how he'd always react to skitter's approach but like her approach doesn't make sense as a way to sort him? It feels more like she's trying to generate a townread off the fact that people would think she wouldn't play this way as scum.

[skitter30]

>.>

[Aristeia]

also that's some excessive pinging skitter

[skitter30]

It did so i said it
I am aware what that would make a variety of people think, i said it anyways

[skitter30]

I think ausuka, inifinity and probably elements are town here
Night shade hydra tbd
Dats feels really quite odd

[marcistar]

what am i skitter

i dont fully agree with ur reads tho uwu

[skitter30]

Nullscum and which ones

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.1

Strawberries are technically not a berry.

Datisi (3) - Ausuka, Aristeia, Infinity 324
skitter30 (2) - Night Shade, Datisi
Ausuka (1) - atsi
Night Shade (1) - Elements

Not voting (2) - skitter30, Marcistar

(expired on 2023-08-23 12:48:00) remain until day end

Skitter30 is V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.
Datisi is V/LA until Tuesday.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

[Datisi]

not the biggest fan of infinity's weaksauce attention diversion from the main argument (yes this is partly fueled by omgus but i still think it's odd with how little comment they handvawed skitt/shea)

really? like what does it say to you that we don't have much of an opinion on shea's alignment from that interaction

nothing

also why as scum do we try to divert attention from a 1v1 that is probably just gonna draw more attention to itself

why not lol
if it's tvt then it might not need your help and will keep drawing attention to itself while you can work on a misyeet elsewhere
if it's tvs maybe you don't know how to position yourself against your partner and/or trust them to handle the situation

like these are just the first 2 thoughts and there's probably more and surely you know how bad of an argument this is

[Datisi]

like is there even a conclusion to this? what does bizarreness have to do with alignment?

the conclusion happened like 2 pages prior to that post, which is that the shea/skitt interaction feels wrong and that i'm not sure if an interaction between two town players who have a lot of experience in mafia would progress the way it did

and yes shea is the more sensical(?) townie(?) person in that interaction, but like i said i thought his initial skitt vote was reacting to the wrong thing, but then later on i figured it's not that much of a wrong thing so /shrug

[Datisi]

@dats yes like i already said
I agree that shea is not like the scummiest scum to obvscum

But it felt weird and pinged
And i think at this stage of the game jumping on things that ping is how to get things rolling

that's not my problem, nobody here is gonna be scummiest scum to obvscum on page 3 or whatever

my problem is the Things you actually pushed him on being ???