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[RationalMadman]

I believe this is Town Vs Town and have said I'm fine with no elimination.

So, I actually take back what I said about voting Dannflor and am voting awesomeming only. Others can do wtf they want.

Dann or HT needs to put before they're -1 though, otherwise they cammjust be hammered out which is the whole toxic problem of this as the. I get called antitown for warning it.

[RationalMadman]

If Town are all too blinkered to consider Awesomeming as the naked scum he is then idk what to say.

[RationalMadman]

Is dripping goofball really the only other person who sees it

[Dannflor]

VOTE: awesomeming

[RationalMadman]

3 days left, choose your votes wisely

[Thomith]

I have to say I dislike the absolute crap out of Thomith changing to quiet bystander during this despite being super active beforehand. It's like he's enjoying the heat off of his back and being town Vs town as scum.

I am unsure who precisely the third is in that though but Black becomes more likely than Elements in that case.

I was busy irl a lot of yesterday.

[Thomith]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: awesomeming

let's see where this goes.

[Thomith]

Thomith...ActionDan...Awesomeming

1 ultractive overcompensater, 2 lurkers barely trying ..

Hmm.

Thoughts on camel?

I think Town. The reason is that Snivy's wagon and the whole situation seemed like Scum were happy letting it stay that way. The similar thing happened with yours.

Do you believe that all wagons that get to E-2 or E-3 are likely scum motivated/scum letting the wagon happen?

[RationalMadman]

Thomith...ActionDan...Awesomeming

1 ultractive overcompensater, 2 lurkers barely trying ..

Hmm.

Thoughts on camel?

I think Town. The reason is that Snivy's wagon and the whole situation seemed like Scum were happy letting it stay that way. The similar thing happened with yours.

Do you believe that all wagons that get to E-2 or E-3 are likely scum motivated/scum letting the wagon happen?

Considering how rapid scum members whoever they may be were to force other wagons all day and suddenly all go silent and stop shifting votes when Dannvs Hu Tao happens, yeah.

I have very little respect for people who force wagons for the sake of it as Town. They completely defeat the very idea of pressuring by numbing others to pressure and always help scum towntell because of scum is voted they will try so hard to survive and since wagons keep happening it lets scum hide behind the chaos after they get unwagond with no way to tell.

[Black]

VOTE: awesomeming

[ActionDan]

I do not like 709 from Kay in context of her low motivation. Feels too informed.

Are you sure this is the word choice you wanted? There isn't anything "informed" about 709.

Please answer the other questions I asked in 1054

[RationalMadman]

Awesomeming, you have vacillated on your elements read a few times this game: opportunistic for RM vote, to cooking after a Hu one, to scum again for a CCS vote. Can you expand why you thought Elements was cooking? Can you reconcile your support of Dann's town read on Elements with your current one w.e it is right now?

When did you first think KJQ was scum? Was that when you named 3 people gun to head as scum or did you refer to Dr. Nick?

I can save you time and explain where he framed me with KJQ, which he didn't make clear when doing it and tried to pretend/gaslight me that I was being crazy and laughed at me while I got annoyed at it.

This chain reveals enough:

rational's writing style is so goofy
it seems super stream of consciousness

Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

this seems pretty unnecessary

actually to think about it the entire byplay between rational and kay about the "slip" seems really weird
like it seems too small of a deal for that big of a conversation

kind of meme but {kay rational elements} solve ez

She thanked me for it because people like yourself never corrected her on it. Maybe take that into consideration when analysing it.

I was referencing how many words was in the conversation. I never said the conversation was unnecessary, I said that the superfluousness of it was unnecessary.

Your post is very confrontational. Why?

It was the moment he pretended to not be aggravating me given things he'd said prior (not just what's inside that quote) and played innocent while ridiculing and accusing me all at once that made me hellbent on getting him eliminated plus him going completely back on defending me instantly as he realised I wasn't a noob and pretended to address all my arguments later and never did.

[RationalMadman]

He figured I'd be easy prey, ended up wincing from the trap closing in on his paw, that's how I see it.

[RationalMadman]

Even if he'd picked on somebody else I'd have scumread him for it but him picking on me let me exactly reply as I did and see him for what he was with higher clarity from my perspective.

[awesomeming327]

I was never trying to frame KJQ back then (see 412)
I already responded to the part where I made a townie argument because I didn't know you were experienced in post 412

Please go read that again thanks

[awesomeming327]

please don't fall prey for the mere exposure effect guys
just because rational's confident doesn't mean he's right

[RationalMadman]

You have to claim right now.

[RationalMadman]

There is no negotiating out of claiming.

[ActionDan]

please don't fall prey for the mere exposure effect guys
just because rational's confident doesn't mean he's right

Ignore him for the moment and just answer my Qs ty!

[Dannflor]

just because he’s over confident doesn’t mean he’s wrong

[awesomeming327]

please don't fall prey for the mere exposure effect guys
just because rational's confident doesn't mean he's right

Ignore him for the moment and just answer my Qs ty!

i think elements has done towny things and scummy things. i do not have a solid read.

[Black]

please don't fall prey for the mere exposure effect guys
just because rational's confident doesn't mean he's right

Ignore him for the moment and just answer my Qs ty!

i think elements has done towny things and scummy things. i do not have a solid read.

What is your read on Hu Tao

[awesomeming327]

vibes are certainly good and progression with dann is also good

def a townread

[awesomeming327]

i would like anyone who thinks rational's arguments have even a shred of logic in them to have a talk with me

[ActionDan]

Ok Rational's arguments have little to no merit to them. But there are certain things I'm trying to check for in your thinking to see if they match your posting and your answers aren't quite giving me what I want. What specifically has Elements done in this game that you would associate with a townie doing, at what specific time did you notice it and why.


Please also flesh out the KJQ scum read, as it stands it doesn't follow from the explanation you gave in 1118